This has been one of my favorite threads to read. It really gives me hope for this community and society as a whole. It’s awesome to see misunderstandings and disagreements ironed out in a class act way. We need to highlight more of this.
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Agreed. I’m glad everyone here for the most part has a cool head and doesn’t take results posting or theories as a personal insult.
In other news, I am thinking a lot about these subs and my stack today thanks to Sovereign’s insight. Mostly I think the issue of this being a healing conundrum is most likely. However, I do think something like Libertine would be good for my stack if only the porn I enjoy didn’t mess with it. Much of my seduction style has a lot to do with drawing the girl in with my energy.
Which reminds me, I forget who it was on this forum but someone suggested I write down an affirmation that I was having sex with porn stars near the time I first joined. Well that obviously didn’t happen just like I knew it wouldn’t. So, for the record.
Anyhow, not sure what I’m getting at just rambling, trying to put my thoughts into focus.
I’ve become much less aggressive and more choosy with my online interactions with women. Unfortunately, as mentioned, this has returned me to incel status. I feel exactly how I felt when I first began pick up years ago and was a virgin.
So, something is missing I believe, or maybe the stack I have is just allowing an unhelpful and unsexy part of myself to run wild. I’m not sure.
Lately I been thinking about shit tests and how maybe that’s where I keep messing up, but I can’t even have a conversation with a woman to even get to that point. As I mentioned before, I don’t enjoy conversations, especially with women, as I don’t want to talk to them. I like talking to them after sex, not before. I don’t know why. But I don’t think it’s some deep seated enigma, I think it just comes down to how I’m wired. I do everything with a goal or purpose in mind, and idle chit chat isn’t something I do, in fact, when random people chat me up, I get annoyed and want them to go away. Thankfully, over the years I’ve developed an energy that keeps people from doing that as often as it used to.
A double edged sword perhaps, but I prefer to only allow people in I have already had an interest in, not people who think we should talk. Like, no. Just go along your life, you couldn’t have a meaningful conversation with me that I would enjoy. That’s how I feel towards the random people I pass by. So when I see a girl I’m “interested” in, I’m not interested in talking with her.
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What do you think about test driving PS:IT and Libertine (along with The Executive)?
I mean I undertand Libertine works best if you are on NoFap but I think it will work well for you since you are sometimes only edging (and there is usually no loss of energy when doing so). Even if you ejaculated everytime, you seem to not have issues with your sexual energy and performance so I intuit that Libertine will work well for you.
And since Primal Seduction: Iron Throne has no healing, it could help you get to your results faster.
Reading the past few posts, I kinda feel that…
PSIT + Libertine + The Executive
OR
PSIT Ultima (which has Libertine in it) + The Executive
…will be perfect for your goals.
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Psit ultima has libertine in it? Would it be permanent if I used it for say 2-3 months?
I want programs that will build in the effects the more I use them and have lasting effects.
As mentioned, I believe I’m still getting benefits from Executive even though I haven’t used it in weeks
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Yes. It is mentioned in the PSITU sales page too.
Since you have excellent and long lasting results with The Executive, I suspect that PSITU will do the same for you. Ultimas are known to have lingering effects for a minimum of 4 days since the last time you played it so yes my theory is that PSITU will serve you well.
Hopefully @SaintSovereign or @Fire can confirm this.
Hmm,only ultima has been done before so would think so
Fire confirmed all ultimas are permanent anyway just not necessarily as wide in scope
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Ok cool, the only issue is the ultrasonic which may (but I’m not sure) be causing my low level tinnitus. I’d rather use a masked version only.
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The Executive also has Ultrasonic in it. It’s an Ultima too.
But if PSITU is an issue, PSIT would be good.
Yes I know. That’s why I haven’t used it in weeks.
As for PSIT, what about Libertine? No masked version?
PSIT has masked and is without Libertine.
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Sounds like I have a new sub to try, thanks. One more thing: is there another sub like Libertine that isn’t ultrasonic?
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Unfortunately not,the aura subs are only available in ultima.
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That is unfortunate indeed.
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Maybe running PSIT alone would be a good thing. You will be able to make out whether it is working and not some other title interfering with your results (as in wondering whether Executive is pushing your results etc). And also, when you get laid more often (from PSIT) it will improve your mood and hence affect your work life positively. Worth a short I think.
And worth a new journal?
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Yes I agree on all points.
I’ll finish my stack today (listening to my loops now) then take next week off as washout. Then start the following week. Thanks
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Excellent plan. All the best, bro 
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- Based on what I think you want, which is sex with hot women,
Is there anything else?
- Based on what you are wanting here are some options:
Libertine
Diamond
Sex Mastery
Primal
Godlike Masculinity
PSIT
Primal Seduction (healing component)
Alexander’s Play
Gorgeous Manifestor
Sex Manifestation
Transcendental Connection
Love without Attachment
Instant Spark
Instant Seducing Tactician
Focused Arousal
Enchanting Smile (helps you let go of insecurities so that might be healing)
Earthshaker – Sexuality
Charisma & Flirting Automatic Mentor/Improver
Focused Arousal
Chosen of Venus (healing)
Earthshaker – Sexuality
Long-Range Seduction
Sexiness Unbound (removes blockages, so might be healing)
Temptation
Panther
Seducer’s Gaze
Sensuality & Handsomeness Improver
Perfect Style & Smell
Physicality Shifter – Sexiness
Charisma & Flirting Automatic Mentor/Improver
Heartsong
WANTED (has physical healing, and a bit of emotional healing)
Love Bomb
I’ve also wondered if Dare Devil or True Social might help you.
- You might have to make decisions:
4a) Do you use Libertine and watch porn? Do you stop looking at porn and use Libertine? Do you continue to look at porn and not listen to Libertine?
4b) Do you make a custom? If so, Ultima or Qv2?
4c) Do you want healing or not?
If you want to keep watching porn, stay with products only in the main shop, and avoid healing, your practical choices might be fewer, and as far as I know this would be likely your best options:
Diamond
Sex Mastery
Primal
Godlike Masculinity
PSIT
Love Bomb
Dare Devil
True Social
- Now if you want to take this as far as possible with as many options as possible:
I’d encourage you to start by going to the Q store and start coming up with a list.
I’ve already listed above what I think would work.
As for some other random points:
If you would like an answer for this, I’d encourage you to submit a support ticket.
As for pans for cooking, I’ve used Pyrex. I even had a Pyrex frying pan for eggs.
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I don’t JUST want sex. I’m not into random hookups or one night stands. That said, I do prefer if the first meeting is sex. But ultimately, as I said, I’m looking for a few long term sexual partners to go through life with. I’m also wanting to have fwbs and “flings” every now and again to keep things interesting but have a few “core” girls if that makes sense. Hence why I chose Heartsong recently. But, I don’t like to “date” traditionally and prefer if the first meeting includes sex.
I can’t use Libertine anyways because I can’t use ultrasonics. My only listening option atm is to use headphones and I don’t want to risk damaging my ear with ultrasonics. So any suggestions you made that are also ultrasonics, unfortunately, cannot be used.
That’s an option, but again, it would have to be a custom without ultrasonics. I don’t know if that is an option or if some of the customs are ultrasonic or whatnot.
Is Love Bomb ultrasonic? That may be an option to add to my Primal. Scratch that, just read up on it. Love Bomb is an ultima and thus and ultrasonic, so I can’t use it unfortunately.
I don’t want an answer really, I just want masked versions for everything.
Thanks, I didn’t expect you’d even suggest a pan lol. Unfortunately, I use an electric hot plate and according to Google, Pyrex pans can’t be used with gas or electric. But I do appreciate that and all the work you put into this 
Yes I do get it.
If the objection is the ultrasonics, perhaps you could put Libertine into a Qv2 format, and perhaps the masked version will not have ultrasonics with the Ultima core in there. I will inquire about this.
Again, if you are open to the Q store, please go with that list I made above and do some shopping, but please do NOT buy anything yet as we still need some questions answered. Also look through the Q store thoroughly because perhaps you can find something I missed.
If Ultima cores can be viably put into a Qv2 format without their ultrasonic component, this might be important for what you decide.
I’ve been using them for years with gas and electric. Just got to make sure I put some oil in there for cooking if I’m frying eggs.
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Ok awesome, I’ll look through that list today. Thanks. I do hope we can get masked versions of the ultimas like Libertine. That would be epic.
Oh nice, In that case I’ll look into getting one. They do sound superior as they made of glass which can’t leech anything unless it’s been dyed.