you’ll want the audio available on audible. it’s called hands on healing (a training course in the energy cure) by william bengston
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I’ll admit I had the same type of hesitation and was even a little put off by how they behaved sometimes in those videos.
Honestly, I kept thinking that he was “playing to his audience” which for the most part is female and so I assumed that the way he behaved was calculated.
But I tried them anyway because I was in a desperate place looking for something to help.
And you know what happened?
I had some deeply emotional releases during some meditations, and some deeply (what seemed like at the time) “useless” meditations, and sometimes his voice really irritated me.
Did I become someone I’m not?
Not even a little. I don’t think it’s possible. If you actually do become “something else”, it’s because you already wanted to try that on for size, right?
I’ve used the BOTEC meditations to good effect and have been looking to get back into it after a few months hiatus actually.
Let us know how it goes for you.
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Thanks for the feedback, @summit. That was very useful especially regarding your own concerns with the same issue and the outcome.
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Reviving this topic! I was going to start a topic on this but when searching realized it already existed haha.
I just bought his Generating Abundance meditation and plan to use it soon. I basically have a philosophy of, “Okay, I can’t run a subliminal for wealth in my stack even though I really need it. What’s the next best alternative?” and so I came to the conclusion I needed to use a meditation that’d bring me wealth and abundance instead 
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I actually have his other meditations but never used them. Some of them are:-
- Reconditioning the Body to a New Mind
- The Pineal Gland
- Blessing of the Energy Centers I, II, III
- Restorative Sleep
- Generating Abundance
How’s the progress with the meditations @Lion ? Hiatus, continued or looked elsewhere?
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@Beowulf - this was the perfect time to talk about my journey with Joe Dispenza meditations. Will explain.
I had loads of issues with the JD meditations (as you can see in my first post). Had reservations about it in terms of how it would change me into someone I didn’t want to be.
Over the course of my subliminal journey here though, I slowly but surely changed in a way that helped me view these meditations in a more positive light. It wasn’t exactly a direct change in mindset though but I think the ZP versions of the subliminals helped me accept myself for who I am which in turn made me very comfortable with whatever meditation or healing modality I am coming across including the JD meditations.
Incongruence in ourselves results in discomfort with healing and healing modalities. But congruence and coherence leads to ease and comfort with such meditations.
All the ZP subliminals especially the healing ones like DR helped me grow in this regard. But I still did have off and on phases with doing these meditations.
But things drastically changed after using RoM and RoS. RoM pushed me a bit more into JD. And RoS helped make it so that doing Dispenza meditations was the most natural thing in the world. Am not impatient anymore and can sit for hours doing them.
So now am regularly able to do meditations such as:
- Blessing of the Energy Centers (my favorite one and what I do most often)
- Tuning in to New Potentials (I love this one too)
- You are the Placebo
- Reconditioning the Body to a New Mind
- Space Time, Time Space
- Pineal Gland (I do this very rarely and only when I am really called to do it. For some reason I want to take it slow even though I have always been fascinated with the 3rd eye for many years)
Am also very interested in doing healing meditations for others these days. Especially for members of my family.
Are you feeling something similar when using SC audios?
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Ooo, a good question!
In terms of healing, the healing I’ve been going through is more on the emotional side rather than the physical - as that’s where more of my focus has been. I’ll be focusing on that soon, once I have my ‘
habit wheels’ set up for my fitness, nutrition and health habits.
I’m with you on thinking of doing healing meditations for others - as I see people around me get sick I feel like I could help them but haven’t developed the ability yet. That has been on my mind for awhile now, probably for a year or so. Besides that, I have been feeling a deeper resolve that what will bring me the most satisfaction in life would be to cause great, positive and long-standing change in people’s lives. I’m also developing my ability to stand in other people’s shoes and doing this repeatedly has built my capability to not be hateful, judgmental and become more forgiving towards others.
This is probably the ZP (v2) scripting, revealing me what will give me the most satisfaction and joy in life. A lot of it is likely the specific subs I chose (
Daredevil, 
True Sell) but feeling more in-tune with myself and what comes most naturally seems to be something that has been developing within me since running ZP. I sometimes say to myself, “I feel happy where I am right now” often these days. There are going to be bad days and days where I am anxious but those have been steadily going down.
Not sure if I answered the question but that’s what I have to say lol 
. I will be updating later on my journal for the Generating Abundance meditation and any other practices I’ll do to physically heal myself.
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Hey good to see somebody who has the same thought as I do lol
I think subliminal and manifestation are actually the same thing, but with different approach.
I was wondering if it’s okay to use manifestation, self-hypnosis things together with subliminal (maybe not at the same time, but separately?). I wouldn’t say the name but I’ve read this from some famous another subliminal forum, and it is not recommended to use any types of mind-programming(like self-hypnosis, writing on notes types manifestation) with subs, but visualization is okay to use with.
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I wouldn’t, and not because I don’t want people to try other things. We recommend other modalities all the time. Spoken affirmations to get a quick boost might be okay, but self-hypnosis + subliminals aren’t the greatest idea. Visualization isn’t really an issue – in fact, visualizing the goals of the subliminal would most definitely boost results. Journaling, especially free writing, is a form of active meditation that is incredible for boosting results. Also, walking meditations (one of the things I like to do), in which I go for a walk in nature and focus on my breathing and being in the moment should also be okay. Seems to help offset recon and give a boost to results.
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Can you elaborate on why you think this?
It doesn’t feel immediately intuitive for me as to why these two would not mix well
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The Masterclass has detailed info on this. I recommend waiting for it to understand this concept.
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Well said! Easy to understand
Choo choo! Everyone get on the hype train!
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Sheds a light on my recent experiences.
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Anyone practicing Joa Dispenza meditations at the moment?
What are your experiences @Lion ?
I got interested into Joe’s meditations listening the Become Supernatural audiobook, so I bought Gaia membership which includes Become Supernatural 7 day meditation program by Joe Dispenza (though they dont follow the book exactly). I am at the meditation 3 right now and it looks promising, last meditation really somehow activated my heart and I feel elevated. I am quite sure there are some blockages that need to be resolved.
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Am currently mostly focused on the Tuning into New Potentials meditation. But must admit that I haven’t done it everyday.
I sometimes wonder if there is a better way of doing it rather than having loads of different meditations and having to listen to many of his lectures and audio books.
I love the concept of it but wish it could be simplified.
I do love watching the testimonials on the Stories of Transformation youtube channel. So I know it works.
Maybe I am not ready for the results so am still on this journey.
It’s a great book and brings a lot of hope for what is possible.
That’s excellent 
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I wish I could add more but am not an expert in his work. I do the meditations when I can and listen to the audio books and youtube videos while trying to apply them in my life to change my situation (especially my health goals). I promise to post here if I get a breakthrough.
PS: had asked Saint which subliminal is best to aid with the Dispenza meditations and he said Revelation of Mind is excellent for that. So it’s something you could consider running if you plan to pursue this journey. All the best, bro! 
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This is an interesting thread I must have missed back when it came out. I had run across Dispenza’s meditations myself several years ago, but they never really resonated 100% with me. The presentation and reliance on pop sci concepts kind of turned me off. The material on the pineal and the CSF was interesting; that being said, it seems like this material has been a lot more clearly set out elsewhere by people with a better grasp on the biology.
I’ve found that for me the best way to approach any new technique like this is usually to do a deep dive and try to reach a level of understanding that lets you know how it’s going to interact with the “subconscious”, and with consciousness and state of mind in general. The aim of that for me is to understand how to make the method and the sub use “compatible”, and whether there is any action or conscious guidance required to make that happen.
I used to be pretty in to hypnosis and guided meditations, but I got dissatisfied with the material that is out there. It seemed to me like there are better and more direct methods to interact with what we call subconscious than these crude methods, and I feel like my unfolding on my current stack has been giving greater clarity on that.
Hypnosis actually arose from Mesmerism via the removal of all of the non materialistic components of the world-view, via Braid, and its development was steered by those who did not want the “science” or art more specifically of it to become public knowledge (think Freud and the people who helped fund and popularise his tripe). Paret gave a good overview of how this happened and how it at first fractured the study of this art into different camps, although the true extent of how much this set back the study of the human mind/soul is held back by him and is only implied by its absence. Mesmerism was itself influenced by even older traditions and suffered from its own problems such as Mesmer’s own peculiar hybrid world view brought to the topic (he held a somewhat materialist view on the magnetic “fluid”).
I won’t go any further with this explanation because it doesn’t help this thread, but let’s just say in summary that there is a place where hypnotism, guided meditation, Mesmerism, the oral transmissions of the schools of fascination, the study of consciousness, pneuma theory, and so on all meet up. The universal spirit was seen as a bridge between consciousness and matter, and the more you study the history of all these methods, the clearer you’ll be able to see that linkup. This leads to the ability to know how to use these techniques safely and with intent, if you maintain a cautious, open minded but skeptical approach to studying the history.
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Thank you for the extensive answer. I sincerely hope you get the breakthrough my friend. All these testimonials are very encouraging so I am sure it is possible.
I am running it for no specific goal ATM, but to raise my overall vibration and manifestation ability. Having said that, I guess it is a good time to return Ascension Chamber in the stack. 
I didn’t run RoM sub yet.
Will report back in this thread when I have more experience.
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Did a lot of joey meditations before. Blessing of the energy centers is the best. It relaxed all levels of body,
Tried his abundance stuff as well but not mich sucess with that. They are super high quality and really cool, But subliminals are way more powerful.
Reason I really like energy center one is it’s moslty just relxation deep relaxation at all levels.
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Yes, we both have masculine and feminine energy in us, they are not gender specific. Feminine energy is dynamic and always flowing, it follows no rules rather it goes with the beat of a heart.When this feminine energy is created, Its like having an AI computer. It can see possibilities that are invisible to the masculine energy, create opportunities that are in contradiction to logic or had been previously known to be impossible. On the other hand, the masculine energy is stable and predictable. This energy likes to create and rules, loves to apply logic in different ways. The feminine bend the rules, but it needs to be express or created. The masculine never talks about “feelings”, the feminine never suppress emotions. It recognizes that emotions and feelings are valuable, it thinks in a circular motion and everything is interconnected - the masculine takes it like a mission order, like following a battle map.
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Love this. New age in summary.
Also Free speech in summary 
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