Jeeze man what you wrote feels like something I would write word for word because I couldn’t agree more. Your eyes vibrating while gazing at women is your sexual energy being expressed in a healthy way through your eyes. There’s no surprise while on Nofap people who relapse, binge etc look dead in the eyes, lifeless etc it’s because they have depleted their sexual energy, life force energy, and it’s reflecting in there eyes.
I remember one instance while having primal in my stack I saw a women passing my building and I was looking at her because I found her really hot. She saw me looking, I was gazing at her and not looking away, my eyes were filled with lust while staring at her. This women quickly looked away probably because of nervousness then 2 seconds later looked back at me and saw me still looking at her. After she saw me still looking she could not walk straight, she got flustered, started playing with her hair, and started to wobble as if she been drinking and couldn’t walk.
As for your last sentence you appreciating certain aspects of women is also facts. I can be bitter regarding females due to female nature but on primal I appreciate women more whether Beaty or qualities that they have that I find pleasant.
Primal is a very underrated sub club sub, I feel like it doesn’t get enough love
I am pretty sure you are quoting the script lol
Whose quoting what script ? Lol you know what’s in the primal script ?
Very true. Also if it comes and goes naturally as it arises, it does not linger in your mind. I guess that’s why porn can be so enticing as a way of releasing this tension if not dealt with. So I guess that’s why it feels so freeing in the moment because it gives energy rather than sucking it like a vampire.
hey sage, what do you mean by emperor manifested challenges for you ?
im going through some right now and im running emperor
can you elaborate more on that? read a lot of posts that says emperor gives you challenges and stuff
would you mind talking about how it manifested ?
I wasn’t sure where Primal was affecting me until recently. My libido is neutral nowadays up until I see a female that interests me and then my full sexual desire rises quickly and immediately in response. I have my own limitations to deal with in regards to Primal still, though. I never ran the main store title so I don’t know what that one is like. Thus I don’t have a prior reference ‘flavor’ to compare my results with Primal now to past use, if that makes sense.
All of that to say, I think I’ll be able to answer that better in about another month. I feel as if AM has been the main focus of my results from my custom, which is okay with me because that was the goal at the time 
I understand. The reason I’ve wanted Primal for so long is that the main store description of Primal IS the optimal expression of my sexual being. Prior to SubClub and on my best times of NoFap, I have become very close to the store description of Primal.
I think Primal is working on me well, I just don’t always give it credit because when I end up edging to porn like I have been recently, I feel like I’m failing myself and consider removing Primal in order to decrease sexual focus in my stack so I can maintain.
It’s not Primal, however. I literally look it up at times when I don’t have an urge out of ‘curiosity’. Like I have no desire for porn but it’s more from boredom lately. And I’m able to not nut and turn to other things almost at will.
Adding LDU to my stack recently has already begun to affect my sexuality. I’m eager to see where it goes.
That’s the best way I know how to describe Primal ATM. It’s not as easy for me as ASCENSION to postulate on.
Yes, this.
The former, my custom The Son of Lightning is a three core custom consisting of what you mentioned.
This was my thought, as well.
I can try. I started out with the Emperor title back in last September and I haven’t run it in many months or read back in my journal so let me think…
It manifested quite a few issues for me back when I was a truck driver. My girlfriend wanting me to come home and pressuring me to find another job, and then flipping and telling me she’s grateful I have this job.(Edit: she also had very scary moments where dudes would bang on the door late at night screaming for her to let them in, guys watching the house not so covertly, etc etc)
When you’re on the road, this can be quite stressful.
It manifested situations where I needed to stand up for myself and low-key get into people’s asses to get things done. There was more than one time where I let the mask fall and let people know, with no chance for misinterpretation, that whatever delay it was wasn’t gonna fly.
And lo, fly it did not. I get shit done on Emperor and I receive respect and deference immediately when using it.
It manifested financial issues that caused me to start saving money. I saved almost 10k within six months between my checking account and 401k.
It helped me to get my credit better, as I was looking for a home and/or car at the time.
It manifested people with attitudes around me that I had to put in their place, either verbally or energetically.
It also manifested me fracturing my ankle on the job, which turned out to be a perfect godsend. I’m quite certain that last one will displease a mod, so allow me to expand a bit.
I fractured my ankle putting on snow chains in Utah, October. 364 days into me driving for CR England.
365 days, and my obligatory driving contract with them was complete.
My mantra working for them was I’m going to be done driving for them the day I had finished my year. It kept me going.
The godsend, you might be wondering. Where is it? Well. I was able to spend time with my son, which I had hardly had time to do before this. I was able to repair my relationship with my girlfriend. I was able to avoid the terrible weather that started very soon after I fractured my ankle. I was put on workman’s comp for over half a year while my ankle was healing, all the while collecting checks at 2/3 of my normal pay, tax free. I used that and what I saved to get my Route for my family. I wasn’t driving for England anymore and, true to my mantra, I have not and will not again.
That, and more, is why people should keep in mind that challenges that Emperor sends you are not simply to test your mettle.
As the venerable @Malkuth said the other day, here at SubClub we make our own luck. Luck is an illusion, so what does that statement mean?
That’s for you to decide.
Edit: before you ask why I stopped using the Emperor, I was at home recovering from my injury and at the time, the rhetoric about lack of action causing massive recon on that title was prevalent and, while I was obviously up for the challenge of running it as my first title…
I didn’t want that smoke
thank you my friend for sharing your experience
do you think this has to do with emperor solely as a title itself? that this title brings more challenges ? and other titles dont as much as emperor?
or do you feel like this is generally from subliminals and life in order to evolve in life you would face challenges to test you and make you grow for the better
im also tagging the chiefs to also hear their perspective on the matter cause this is interesting, and if theyre around they can share some perception and thought 
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EDIT: this one
"do you think this has to do with emperor solely as a title itself? that this title brings more challenges ? and other titles dont as much as emperor?
or do you feel like this is generally from subliminals and life in order to evolve in life you would face challenges to test you and make you grow for the better "
Good question. I personally attempt to remember life happens outside of subliminals so it could be both.
I believe you are spiritually minded so you’re probably aware that things do crop up at times that are necessary for self development.
I’m interested to see what the Bois assessment is, as well.
If you could copy-paste the exact quote(s) that you would like input on, that would help.
You’re quoting the primal script. We can only guess what’s in the script by comparing people’s results and how they write about it.
You’re the 3rd or 4th person I’ve seen talking about the gaze from primal
haha mee too
"do you think this has to do with emperor solely as a title itself? that this title brings more challenges ? and other titles dont as much as emperor?
or do you feel like this is generally from subliminals and life in order to evolve in life you would face challenges to test you and make you grow for the better"
what i meant is, is emperor scripted in a way to face more challenges? or to provoke more challenges into your life to grow? was emperor scripted in such way to fasten the road to self development
or its generally subliminals that provoke that sense of challenges and thats why they change your life entirely, if you give them enough time
according to @Sage_Ninjistic he was going through some tough challenges with emperor, and i read some comments and posts around the forum saying that emperor has some serious stuff and you would need to overcome those challenges
does it have to do with only emperor? or its every subliminal in subclub? or …
its just the route of life, in order to develop youll face new levels, things your not used to, in order to achieve greatness
any input and perspective would be appreciated
There is the module of The Forge.
I wonder if something similar to The Forge might be in Emperor to stimulate growth.
I think that subliminals in general are supposed to stimulate growth. Some of those growth experiencing might be challenging.
The forge module is in Emperor. In the description it says that it’s used in every subliminal. It used to be called Evolution
I think this is confirmed
The Forge
“While The Forge is contained in all subliminals, it is best known for being in the Emperor as the module EVOLUTION that was thoroughly upgraded, and for being a powerful driver of improvement. The aim of The Forge is to manifest situations that will test you, challenge you, teach you things and evolve you. It will create these situations so that not only you are truly changed, but that you profit from them.”
that sounds scary, not scary as not facing challenges but scary as putting more load and sometimes overloading your self with challenges with everytime your exposed to the script if that makes sense ?. dont get me wrong life is full of challenges
but i think adding more challenges and more affirmations to provoke more challenges isnt that a bit hard ? givin that life will test you anyway and will make new challenges appear either ways
so why put emphasis on more challenges ?
hmmmm, but im kinda into it though