Question about Celibacy / Seman Retention

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#1

@Fire @SaintSovereign I didn’t want to derail that thread again with my question so I am posting here. I really value your knowledge and opinion on the matter.

I would like to know why Celibacy / Seman Retention might be bad. I’ve read a lot about the seeming benefits, especially from Brahmacharya advocates. It is definitely much better option than porn and frequent masterbation in my opinion.

Any books, references, etc. that you can point me to that gives a healthier, or more balanced alternative to Seman Retention? Thanks!

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#2

In my opinion, many people use celibacy as an excuse to stagnate the flow of sexual energy in their body leading to more problems with sexuality such as restlessness that comes with no fap.
But if celibacy is maintained under the guidance of proper guru this sexual energy is gradually converted to a higher form of life energy with the power of tapa/penance/spiritual practice. Again, this energy is effectively circulated in the body in these practices as sexual energy is the base to achieve these higher forms of life energy.

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These three books I own, they come highly regarded in the SR community. After experimenting with the practice, I didn’t gain anything positive. If I’m kicking ass at life then masturbating to porn on occasion has no negative effects on me. The books are worth a read though.

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I’ve read two of those three. I haven’t noticed anything positive from SR either. I’ve gone six months retaining and did not notice anything different.

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#5

Semen is one of the most potent things if you know how to use it ~ Sadhguru

My question about all of this is. If you do not have a wife, if you do not have a sexual relationship with anyone then what are you gonna do? For me personally, I have no interest in sleeping around since for me sex is spiritual and I wish to love someone and have a deep connection with someone when I have sex with that person. I have don’t have that. Really masturbation the few seconds of pleasure you get it is a wasteful activity it doesn’t make any sense to me. You don’t derive anything from it.

Few seconds of pleasure depletes your vital stores and it is gone while you gain literally nothing.

I think sexual purity is very important. I don’t believe in any sexual rules or relationships rules or laws just common sense. Think if it has been constructive or destructive to your life and make your own decision?

I think the rightful use of sex can be greatly beneficial for health but the abuse and misuse totally destructive, this has been my experience and many wise people who have the awareness to speak on it all agree upon this point. Its a doubled edged sword.

About Porn Addiction

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#6

IMO , SR also works like Subliminals . All subtle results .
Its not like the youtube videos where the women " smell the aura " or the life is going to do 180 in a short amount of time .

I was never able to push past 90 - 100 days without releasing . But during that time , the focus becomes extraordinary , have better clarity etc .

I am on Khan Black now , previosly I used to get massive amount of guilt when I released / sex while on Khan Black , but now not so .

#7

EDIT: I know no one asked step by step how to do SR correctly, but I do believe most guys do it wrong. There’s more to it than just “don’t release bro”.

So IMO when fire said stay away from celibacy, I think he meant the version where ego based identity around “I’m pure / ascetic / above sex now" and repression and shame around desire.

Semen retention and sexual transmutation is NOT THAT. I practice semen retention and I do believe it has benefits, but there are ways to do it wrong. First off, visiting the semen retention sub on Reddit, please take those posts lightly. I practice SR myself, but I still cringe reading some posts on that sub, just like anything else people do take things too far and or make their entire personality out of it.

As far as DON’T DO THIS. The first one is shame. Never feel shame because all you’re doing is making things worse for yourself. Too many guys that try SR will break their streak and feel shame for a week. Again, never do this as shame is a horrible state to be in, as a matter of fact IMO, shame is like spraying yourself with success repellant. Guys on SR sub like to say “god rewards the pure, and punishes you when you lust/break your streak”. That is not true. The only one punishing yourself is you if you feel shame. If you break your streak, get over it, move on and start over. Do not sit and wallow and pout in shame for days, I see too many men do this, all you’re doing is killing your momentum in life when you punish yourself and feel shame.

Next, do not lust and edge yourself. Not for the reasons above, but because simply the act of sexual transmutation (the goal of SR) putting sexual energy to use on things other than sex. If you are lusting, even looking at innocent pictures of gym baddies on IG, all you’re doing is white knuckling sexual desire. If you want the full benefits of SR/sexual transmutation, you have to avoid lust. AGAIN NOT BECAUSE ITS BAD OR EVIL OR “UNGODLY”, but simply as you all heard “where attention goes, energy follows”. You will never harness the full power of SR if you lust. Sexual dreams and morning wood are 100% fine and expected.

The last thing is you cannot let built up sexual energy stagnate. This will create issues for you that you will not like. In order to let the built up sexual energy flow smoothly, you need to be moving daily doing physical exercise, and you also need to preferably do energy work like a basic daily qi gong set such as 8 brocades. Only takes 15m a day and it ensures your energy is moving and not stagnant. This is important to anyone, but even much greater importance if you are not releasing.

IMO if you are a single guy and not dating, you should be practicing SR, but its not 100% required to succeed in life. I have associates who are literal sex addicts and they crush it in life and business, so the cult following around SR of “you will fail if you don’t practice this” is just wrong. However I personally find the benefits amazing and I will keep doing it till I start dating again.

EDIT 2: My point about shame

#8

Replace “SR” with “quitting porn”.

That is what millions of people say, lol.

The most aligned way is to use the relativist approach. If a habit or action that someone is doing happens to be holding them back from growth, alignment, or moving towards their best selves, and they are consistently striving for that with intention - then the habit will be brought to their conscious awareness as they proceed.

There is no external input required or research, although that may be a pathway for creating that awareness. 90% of the time, they will just intuitively know “this is not good for me, I need to stop doing this” or “this is good for me, I need to start doing this”. If you’re not intuitively drawn to practice SR, and have tried it without sensing it was beneficial to you, then don’t practice it. Trust your faculties and intuition.

I’m not saying that porn isn’t unhealthy or that there aren’t things that exist which are objectively harmful. I’m saying that people have baselines and timing, and what they’re ready to give up is specific to their journey. I find it far more effective to honor that individuality than to impose a universal prescription. I wasn’t always like this though, hahaha.

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