2nded.
Take a proper spa season for 3-6 months and every sub (& life) will easier after it.
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That’s a great point. Masculine edge is indeed extremely vague, when you think masculine edge I see you have a totally different vision than myself, and that’s probably indicative of a lot of users on the forum.
It was a nice analysis to do, what is a “masculine edge”.
Making me even more excited for the upcoming RICH Trader! Subs at the moment are helping a lot, but are not quite on the bullseye for what I’m looking for.
But I’ve noticed some great improvement with the current titles avaliable and my efforts.
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Because the subtle results build into larger results. That’s the cycle – it’s not even Zero Point that causes this, it’s just the way nature is. Everything operates in cycles. Day and night, seasons, the rotation of the earth. A boxer throws a million punches before he enters the ring in a professional fight, and I bet throughout many of those training sessions, they questioned whether they were making progress as well. One day, they recognize some subtle change to their style that ends up sending their fighting prowess to extremes.
Zero Point helps you latch on to the process and helps you accelerate it. From subtle to breakthrough, back to subtle, to breakthrough – and the wielder must learn how to maintain a stable inner core while this occurs, so they aren’t gravitating between high and low. I mean, really think about the nature of the products we’ve been releasing. ALL of them are designed to help you build a foundation based upon your own constitution. HERO: The Light That Blinds, GLM, Dragon Reborn: Regeneration, the upcoming Genesis: Ascension. Even titles like Alchemist: Singularity, helping you to resolve duality within the self.
There’s a reason why these are all so grounded, focusing on embodiment, calming the nervous system, stabilizing the mind and emotions. Think about what’s happening in the world, as the media and social media blasts our nervous systems into anxiety mode 24/7. Always SOMETHING going on – 3I/ATLAS and aliens, Epstein Files, yada yada yada. The United States of America, with all it’s posturing and external might is SUCH A FEAR BASED SOCIETY, rofl. Everyone’s always angry, wrapped up in drama and the such because as a nation, we do too damn much.
So, how does Subliminal Club respond? We release titles designed to help you navigate these tumultuous waters. If collective forces are going to drive a person to constant anxiety, we respond with titles focused on detachment, resilience, self-confidence, a calm and healthy nervous system (DR: Regeneration), proper health (Paragon), proper sleep (Paragon Sleep), mastery of a craft so that you’ll always be employed (HERO: The Light that Blinds), etc.
Spiritual thrill-seeking for the sake of just thrill-seeking using subliminal audio is not advised. There are those here who are also drawn to intense experiences, but (and I don’t like doing this, but it’s the perfect example), I have to give @bujin credit for how he explains why he is drawn to them, as seen on the Dragon Reborn: Regeneration thread. It is not intensity for the sake of intensity, he is using the intensity in a methodical and strategic manner. We are not going to judge anyone for this, even though I personally seek quiet and peaceful wisdom and experiences. I’m not going to be practicing astral projection and the such, blasting out of my body all the time, or holding meditation for hours at the time. I like the movement style Qigong, focusing on calming the body, and focusing on non-striving, letting my spiritual process play out softly.
Who is right, and who is wrong? I say neither. When I look at those two perspectives, I look beyond the outer form and see a commonality, and that commonality is the application of skill and focus to our chosen modalities to achieve a deeper spiritual life.
And that’s just that, man. Trying to push any title – spiritual or non-spiritual – to consistently generate “reality bending results” is a dangerous endeavor without a shockingly strong inner core. When I hear “reality bending results,” I sense destabilization, potential psychosis and more important, CRISIS. If a person cannot handle Zero Point at its current levels, why would we willingly create something “stronger?”
And how are we even defining “stronger?” Is stronger immediate, but destabilizing results, or a bit more long-term but fulfilling results?
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Boom. And I understand that for many, the notion of doing 100 approaches a day is terrifying. That’s why we say to first notice the little signs of attraction, which builds confidence. Once that confidence is built (which the script is trying to help you do), you see incredible self-expression.
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That being said, I think we got a lot out of those conversations and I am confident that we can deliver what’s being asked of us in GLM: The Commander.
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Bliss is a trap that is very easy to be sold to the lost practitioner. It makes sense - feel good, must be good, right? And spirituality is often presented as just love, light, bliss, etc.
The truth is, to feel that bliss that is often touted as be all end all, you are burning up your own energy, rather than saving it for good use. It’s similar to watching porn - as you are essentially just burning up energy either way, with different dangers if you start taking it into the extremes. And what you described is exactly what ends up happening in the extremes.
Easy to sell, easy to start feeling very quickly - even a simple energy transfer is enough to have a practitioner feel it and go whooaa - add a dash of not knowing what they are doing (both the gurus and the lost practitioners) and a burning desire to progress, and you get droves of people burning themselves up internally by following these gurus.
It is further compounded by most modern people’s existing conditions and the problems caused by modern life. Way too overactive of a mind and heart leads to extremely common head blockages, especially as yogic methods are too common (and the first method for many people) and basically exacerbate these issues.
So, to summarize, I would advise avoiding anything of the sort:
- Kundaliniz
- “Opening your heart”
- Blasting energy up into your head
- Flopping between states of activity and depression
- Bliss
- Celibacy
- Blindly following gurus
- Following a mainstream guru (I don’t think I’ve ever seen any well-known guru that hasn’t been a D or an F on my personal mental tier list, with multiple factors taken into account such as personal attainment, method, lineage, knowledge possessed etc.)
- Third eye, chakras, visualization
- Super quick promised results with minimal hard work, especially selling items with supposed “power” for a high price (a “holy pendant” with an image on it for 200-10k USD won’t help your spiritual practice)
- Aliens, galactic federation, anything with love and light next to it
The list goes on.
If you have the eyes to see and the inner intuition, all of it begins to have the same undercurrent of wrongness, and you become able to easily discern the false from the true. There are 10 thousand different ways around the mountain, but only one way to the peak - and that is up.
It’s important to not delude yourself into thinking you already have it, as many practitioners think they are special and that they do. Act as if you do not, and be highly skeptical.
Ultimately, there are much better ways of spiritual advancement, but they take time and effort to find. So put in that time and effort and don’t settle for just anything. Think long term, and deeply scrutinize any potential teacher or guru.
Do you want to be like them 10-20 years down the line?
Do they have signs of actual advancement?
Are they consistent on a long enough time-span?
Are your experiences objectively improving, or are you flip-flopping between highs and lows?
Are you blindly trusting them and holding on with hope that it gets better?
All such questions one should ask themselves, over and over again. Because ultimately, you have this life (and there are no absolute guarantees for the next one), and in this life you have one body, one spirit, one energetic system, one mind. Don’t gamble with it, and never let yourself be arrogant enough to think, as modern people like to say, that you are “him” and can take it.
Steady, gradual progress, with constant evaluation of the path you are on and hard work, with the good fortune and time put in to find a legitimate teacher, is the way up the mountain.
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Great answer, thank you
I would add to the list anything that offers to teach you how to transcend your ego.
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Indeed, that’s another one and a very common trap. The ego exists for a reason.
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Mm, I guess right now I kind of don’t know how to communicate what exactly I was attempting to bring across because it is not exactly the perspective of what you think I said. I am sort of same in that I wish to align with wisdom, understanding, sanity and truth, to better ourselves in a way that is natural, feasible, balanced, grounded and healthy.
I do not seem to be able to get my point across properly with what I exactly meant. I seem to have this in my life in general and right now I am working hard on perception and how to communicate my perception more clearly with people understanding my points better.
Maybe Ill revisit this in a few months. I can say that I am blessed though that I am experiencing daily joy and laughter and am not tapped into whatever is happening in the daily groove of society. I live in my own little bubble of peace and am happy with that. But I strive for something above and beyond the mundane, I guess that is what I meant with profound. I am aching for something more and perhaps that just shows my preparation for that to happen now because of my inner feeling of readiness for something greater to happen in my life, a bigger transformation now that the preparatory work has been somewhat fulfilled and now that I feel pretty solid, grounded, balanced and consistent with my inner state.
Some of what you wrote in that list makes sense (like blindly following gurus etc.)
I understand the main point you try to make in here is to not get overloaded, harm yourself, scammed or deluding your path from attaining a higher state of consciousness(not making any real progress)… but packing all that stuff into one bag and deem them to be “just that” and recommend people to avoid them is not i would do.
With this logic someone skimming though SC products might avoid titles like Khan Black, Heartsong, Love Bomb or Love Bomb for Humanity…
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Trust your intuition more, lol.
You have a lot self-awareness and intuition about yourself. Your last question and the one you had before, you got to the answer without needing anyone else’s input.
You don’t need to communicate to others, just process it.
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@Fire was answering almost exclusively within the context of energetic cultivation practices – which realistically, can be separated from any specific religious doctrine, just as we see in western-style Yoga. He was not commenting on philosophy, but rather a practical approach to that specific topic.
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Yes some of the stuff he mentions simply shows he has no direct experience of and to him it’s just concepts that he finds limiting or false in his current level of awareness, and that’s just how it is with all of us, we’re all at different level of awareness and have different experiences of different levels of reality and that’s why it’s so essential to have compassion for each other and respect, I see humanity as one big team growing together and each uniquely learning from a different perspective and bringing to the all, individual evolution and global evolution growing in parallel.
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Most of the time, in spiritual practice, people are playing with your hopes.
We all have something we deeply desire. When someone gives us hope that we can obtain it, we dive deeper and deeper into that path until we become vulnerable, driven by the emotions and expectations attached to that hope. Then others appear, claiming to bring the remedy that will finally give you what your heart truly wants. But in reality, many of them simply want to empty your pockets. And if you fail to achieve what you hoped for, they will blame you your karma, your “blockages,” or any excuse they can find.
You’ll find this pattern in many domains connected to spirituality.
The problem is that hope is such a powerful feeling that you don’t want to let go of it or of the people who fuel it. And that’s how the cycle becomes endless.
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Which one do you disagree with? Let me know, and I will explain.
The difference between our titles and the above mentioned is that we take a lot of time and experience to create each specific title. For example, Khan Black deals with sexual energy - Yoga attempts to work with sexual energy as well. The difference is, over a lot of development time, testing and personal experiences utilizing more powerful and hidden methods, the mechanisms behind it become clearer, as well as the flaws in the other methods that appear.
This allows us to create titles that aren’t based on just hoping or praying that it works, and instead based off of actual mechanisms of the inner systems. Meanwhile, most of modern Yogic methods are filled to the brim with pitfalls that can burn out your inner system. Kundalini being one of the chief ones - a massive misunderstanding of the inner processes and corruption of an actual inner development stage.
Heartsong/Love Bomb - same applies. It is a common thing in the modern times for people to focus obsessively on the heart, imagining white light shining from it, metta meditation, and so on. Funnily enough, most modern people need the opposite - not more activation of the heart, but calming of it. This is why so many modern people are highly emotional, prone to extremes and overthinking.
With Heartsong and Love Bomb, we can work on clearing out the heart without overloading it like it is common to do with these practices. It can seem a subtle difference to those who haven’t experienced enough, but it is an important distinction that makes a massive difference in the long term - the difference between emotional upheaval from such practices, and the process of inner reconciliation from subliminal usage.
One leads you to ever increasing disbalance, issues with the heart and becoming more and more sensitive to the woes of the world. You end up never being at peace, because the world is never at peace. This is what happens when you continuously overwork your heart.
The other one is a gradual improvement, where your heart becomes flexible, strong and gradually more at peace, regardless of what is happening in the world. With that, you can actually utilize the heart for more things, rather than marveling at illusionary experiences arising from an overstimulated heart. This is what proper working out of the heart should look like - and one that we aim to achieve.
I’m going to offend some people with this, but I’ll put it out there either way.
Modern spirituality suffers from one massive flaw - the belief that all paths are equal. In life, nothing is equal. One path is filled with thorns, another is a dirt road, and yet another one is paved. Some have to crawl through the thorns, another walks on the dirt road, and yet the third one rides down the paved one.
I agree with you - we should all have compassion and respect for others paths. You cannot help someone who doesn’t want to be helped.
But people…
We are at Subliminal Club.
We’re all here because we want to grow beyond what is possible. We want to strive ever further, and not settle on “eh, that’s good enough”.
Why are you running Alchemist, and not running Open Your 3rd Eye (SUPER POWERFUL INSTANT SUBLIMINAL) on YouTube?
Why are you running Khan Black, and not running Raise Your KundaliniZ (INSTANT RESULTS, X1000000 LAYERS) on YouTube?
Why are you running Emperor, and not running Super Wealth and Status Manifestor By MegaEdgySubliminals?
Because a part of you wants and recognizes that there are better things in life. A part of you wants the stronger, more effective path. A part of you is able to recognize that one is weak and ineffective, and the other one is an actual, powerful tool of self-development that will help your path.
Something inside you resonates with one, but not the other one. Something inside you is able to recognize the true from the false.
The same applies to spiritual methods.
And here is where we disagree.
I do not think you should settle for the dregs that modern spirituality offers. If you think Kundalini is the height of spiritual evolution - you are wrong. The method known as Kundalini is a devolved version of the actual method, which is just a single step in a much longer journey. In fact, a popular Kundalini guru with many glowing reviews for his books touts that he has raised his Kundalini hundreds of times - something that would be considered a travesty in proper Yogic schools.
If you think opening your heart and giving compassion to everything is the key to unlocking your spiritual growth - you are wrong. You are potentially harming others by attempting to follow your own sense of compassion, because sometimes the other person needs to hear an uncomfortable truth. You are not following a developed sense of inner wisdom (that comes from years of practice) that is good not just for you, but for the other person as well (and the others around you), but your own selfish desire to be compassionate - which can ultimately harm others through ignorance.
So, you are free to believe in whatever you deem fit. That is absolutely your prerogative. But here at Subliminal Club, we aim for the stars - and thus, I see it as my personal duty to dole out uncomfortable truths when they are warranted. And that seems to be in a clash against modern spirituality and new age, which continually keeps harming people.
Contrary to some individuals belief, I actually get zero pleasure from doing it. I could be doing something much more productive right now.
However, there is a lot of people coming to our support website, asking how they can fix these issues that keep arising due to these practices I’ve outlined.
And I will not allow that to happen at my company, to members of Subliminal Club. If such a hard, protective stance clashes with the modern view of love and light, that’s okay with me.
I hope that individuals who still believe in modern spirituality have the fortune to try out some of the more potent methods out there - the two simply cannot be compared.
So, in the spirit of Subliminal Club, aim for the stars people. Never settle for “eh, that’s good enough” and instead keep questioning, keep searching and deepening your knowledge, until you find that one path up the mountain.
That’s why the motto is Become Legendary.
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What specifically do you want in a sub as a young man?
Well, i’d like something guide me towards a better decision, even if it’s the hardest thing in the world - be my own father figure.
I’d like to detach from technology but be able to use and leverage it in my goals. Be fully in control instead of controlled.
I’d like to feel like life is okay regardless of circumstances. The future isn’t to be scared of and i’m not wasting or running out of time.
I’m not boring for wanting to be different than societies average male which is constantly on tik tok or social media in general. I don’t want to feel trapped having to be like everyone else around me just to relate to them.
I want to be amazing socially.
I want to be okay not being like my family because I’ve grown beyond the average perceptions of life and what is possible and not feel disconnected from them.
I want to be okay with uncertainty and be able to lead my life despite not being as experienced as a 40 year old version of myself.
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Come on don’t be so hard on this one!!
The first time I tried it triggered a deep and beautiful spiritual breakthrough/experience and I met a soulmate within a few days.
I ran Heartsong this morning and I can’t say I met a soulmate because it’s very fresh but I had a very unexpected encounter tonight and I’m now in contact with a sweet spanish lady.
If the sub doesn’t work I make it work anyway haha 
But seriously, it’s one of my favorites, smooth as hell, melts my feelings, super sweet and smooth sub for me.
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To end this conversation and bring things back on topic…
EDIT: We are not co-signing on any of the following individuals, only pointing out that many in the public consider these individuals gurus, and even they recommend avoiding trying to “awaken the Kundalini” through force.
The following is DIRECTLY from Sadhguru’s website: Kundalini Yoga - Why is It Dangerous?
Kundalini Yoga: Preparation first!
Nowadays, a lot of books and yoga studios talk about Kundalini Yoga and its benefits, though they don’t know anything about it. Even to utter the word “kundalini” we always bring a sense of reverence and then utter the word because it is so enormous. If you have to activate the kundalini, the necessary preparation in your body, mind and emotion should happen, because if you pump energy into a system which is not ready for that kind of voltage or volume, things will fuse out. So many people have come to me who have lost their mental balance and physical capabilities because they tried to do Kundalini Yoga without the necessary guidance and assistance. If the necessary supportive atmosphere is not there, simply attempting to raise kundalini could be very irresponsible and dangerous.
From ChatGPT:
Swami Sivananda’s classic book Kundalini Yoga has a very direct warning to impatient seekers who want to skip stages. dlshq.org
Key quote (verbatim):
“O impatient aspirant! Do not bother much about awakening Kundalini. Premature awakening is not desirable. Do your Sadhana and Tapas systematically and regularly.” dlshq.org
He immediately adds (paraphrased):
- Purify and steady the mind, and purify the nadis; then kundalini will awaken spontaneously when the groundwork is done. dlshq.org
- He tells “emotional, enthusiastic young aspirants” to master every stage in yoga and not take up higher courses before completely mastering the lower steps. dlshq.org
This is almost tailor-made for people who want to “go straight to kundalini”: Sivananda flat-out calls premature awakening “not desirable” and stresses systematic foundational practice first.
Gopi Krishna is often cited as someone who actually went through a difficult kundalini awakening and then spent years warning others about forcing it.
From his book Living with Kundalini (quoted on kundalini.se): kundalini.se
Key quote (verbatim):
“It is a grave error to suppose that the arousal of kundalini can be achieved with impunity by anyone who applies himself to the discipline.” kundalini.se
And from his autobiography Kundalini: The Evolutionary Energy in Man, describing the aftermath of his own awakening (quoted on Goodreads): Goodreads
“I suffered unbearable torture… blaming myself bitterly again and again for having delved into the supernatural without first acquiring fuller knowledge of the subject.” Goodreads
He goes on (summarizing) to describe years of severe instability, both physical and psychological, and uses his case as a cautionary example of what can happen when kundalini is awakened without adequate preparation and understanding. kundalini.se
This is straight from the source. Not YouTube videos, Discord chats, Reddit conversations.
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Back on topic, please.
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