PLEASE READ: Fire vs. Saint Round 3 [The Battle is ON]

[Jouissance]

One common feature that could make for a good battle ground.

How do these two titles deal with the phenomenon of feeling “not good enough.”

The average man responds to his own inferiority with over-compensation

Overcompensating at work, or overcompensation in social dynamics.

Work: This is the guy who looks super successful on the surface, but, is working hard (and posting about all his work) just to overcompensate for a perceived sense of inferiority.

Social: This is the guy who tries to look like really successful people like him, that he is really “cool” and he can “network” with successful people, he tries to get jacked, he tries to look like the guy he thinks everyone wants to be around.

He eventually accomplishes all of these things, but they’re just items on a check list. They’re not embodied senses. If he ever lost his job, or his friends, or his girlfriend, his sense of self-esteem would be ripped away from him.

How can the Executive and True Social help someone become HIGHLY social and successful, without using shame or overcompensation as a driver?

I’d love to see that addressed in both titles so we can see which expression was better.

[SaintSovereign]

I cannot answer questions about The Executive, as that’s @Fire 's domain. On the topic of True Social, its main focus is to help the user understand the hidden dynamics of any social situation and intuitively know how to respond.

For example, the concept of “power talk.” It occurs in high level boardrooms, or dealing with wealth individuals. It’s a form of coded speech in which the person is trying to convey an idea and information while maintaining plausible deniability that they actually said it, as well as speaking with implied dominance. They are expecting the receiver of the information to be able to respond. They are also testing the person’s inner status, to see how they’ll respond to the subtle challenge, see if they will fall in line as a potential leader or a potential follower.

I’ll give a very short, but obvious example of powertalk. When politicians talk about some disaster they caused, and they respond to questions with: “Mistakes were made.”

Not “we made a mistake,” or “[x] person made a mistake.” Instead, it’s “mistakes were made,” as if whatever happened occurred completely by itself. There’s clear subtext here that – believe it or not – some people cannot grasp, even though it is very obvious on a deep, deep level what this form of communication means.

So, it’s less about peacocking in social situations and more about understanding all these “hidden dynamics” and being able to react in a manner that raises your social status and social capital. As a sales expert starting a coaching business, think about how that would affect your ability to operate.

[SaintSovereign]

There will be of course, since we know people will ask, lots of scripting designed to help you become the “life of the party” as well. It’s going to be a very popular title with lots of interesting use cases. Based off the script so far, I’m eager to see:

• Wanted Black + Primal Nights + True Social (The https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVdr_JWmnsA stack)
• Heartsong + Primal Nights + True Social (Given the fact that Heartsong is supposed to help you manifest your soulmate, can you imagine giving them a passionate, yet deeply connected primal night?)
• ASBR + Nouveau R.I.C.H. + True Social (This one is interesting. The disruptive innovation from Nouveau RICH + ASBR’s focus on developing world changing products + True Social to help you explain your highly innovative, before its time product to the world).

I literally just had an idea while typing this thread. RoW + EoG in action again – perhaps these types of archetypical lists would help resolve this confusion issue? You all supply us with a list of archetypes or use cases and we just make a thread with our recommendations for that use case?

Would anyone like this? An official “stack” thread, with our recommendations being added at the top and everyone can discuss and refine ideas in the comments? Eh, let’s try it.

[Jouissance]

@SaintSovereign

Would anyone like this? An official “stack” thread, with our recommendations being added at the top and everyone can discuss and refine ideas in the comments? Eh, let’s try it.

Absolutely. And I’d say, with an emphasis on 2-title stacks, as well.

ASBR + NR + True Social might be what some people need, but I’m sure a big chunk of users coud get nearly as much out of True Social and just ONE of those? Or… no?

But differentiating when someone would want to use NR + True Social, compared to ASBR + True Social, compared to all 3 would be extremely helpful. THATS what would help understand the difference.

[ksub]

@SaintSovereign

Would anyone like this? An official “stack” thread, with our recommendations being added at the top and everyone can discuss and refine ideas in the comments? Eh, let’s try it.

Yessir!!!

[Jouissance]

@SaintSovereign

the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVdr_JWmnsA stack

Fun fact, if you listen to this song at 0.4x speed, you’ll feel exactly like what you’ll feel on this stack if you do drugs… which is probably what you’ll be doing on this stack anyways, so you might as well prepare.

[TheRock]

@SaintSovereign

Would anyone like this? An official “stack” thread, with our recommendations being added at the top and everyone can discuss and refine ideas in the comments? Eh, let’s try it.

Cool idea!

[WorldOvertaker]

@SaintSovereign

Would anyone like this? An official “stack” thread, with our recommendations being added at the top and everyone can discuss and refine ideas in the comments? Eh, let’s try it.

Absolutely!

[anon34983076]

@SaintSovereign

Would anyone like this? An official “stack” thread, with our recommendations being added at the top and everyone can discuss and refine ideas in the comments? Eh, let’s try it.

Hope Khan + QL will get the spot.

[TheGreenMan]

A couple of thoughts/ideas on TS:
(sorry, if they are too obvious)

UNDERSTANDING AND EMPATHY

Eagle Eyes, Deep Listening and empathy scripting would be great for “reading the room” and your opposite.

Mirroring would be an universal, powerful concept for social connections.

A module for cultural understanding (with an universal approach: From national/regional culture, subcultural to microcultural level.), like a variation of TWTP for social/cultural chess.

UNSHAKEABLE CONFIDENCE

This would be IMO one of the most important parts of the whole sub, something similar to Synergy: Iron Law but broader. Noone should ever be able to tell when you are faking it - as in „Fake it til you make it.“ -, no matter which social circle you are thrown into.

FLEXIBILITY AND STRONG AURA

While Daredevil is an incredibly strong social sub, the archetype is very much fixed as the storyteller & adventurer that grabs the audience for a wild ride.

Being an overall strong social player would need to be more versatile and flexible, so adaptability would be quite important.

Ideal would be (I don‘t know if this is possible) an aura that mostly just intensifies the immediate connection to the people around you, like social magnetism and magnifying whatever you are projecting, ranging from the Heart of the Party to being just a good listener.

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EDIT: Oh, and an Instant Spark variation would be great. Nothing is more important than the first impression.

[Bull_of_Shiva_999]

Stand-Up Comedian Stack: ASBR + Ultimate Artist/RM: UWX + Daredevil/True Social

[TheGreenMan]

I mean… If Song of Joy and Dragon Tongue would find their way into TS - both would make perfect sense - and add DD you are pretty much there already.

But honestly, everything you need is there already. Song of Joy and Dragon Tongue are the the comedy/humour modules, depending on your stage persona take Primal (for leaned back acidic sniping, commentary and take downs) or DD for more immersive funny storytelling and RM:UWX for the writing part.

[Prioritas]

@Jouissance

Absolutely. And I’d say, with an emphasis on 2-title stacks, as well.

ASBR + NR + True Social might be what some people need, but I’m sure a big chunk of users coud get nearly as much out of True Social and just ONE of those? Or… no?

But differentiating when someone would want to use NR + True Social, compared to ASBR + True Social, compared to all 3 would be extremely helpful. THATS what would help understand the difference.

Seconding this as it would 10x the clarity that you’d be trying to create by making the stack thread in the first place.

[Phoermes]

@SaintSovereign

Would anyone like this? An official “stack” thread, with our recommendations being added at the top and everyone can discuss and refine ideas in the comments? Eh, let’s try it.

With tier list!

Maybe someone who has some skills with web design could whip us all up a a quick build planner website. It would open up room for more customizing and creativity. It would especially be useful for customs.

[Joa23]

@SaintSovereign

Not “we made a mistake,” or “[x] person made a mistake.” Instead, it’s “mistakes were made,” as if whatever happened occurred completely by itself. There’s clear subtext here that – believe it or not – some people cannot grasp, even though it is very obvious on a deep, deep level what this form of communication means.

Can we have script that helps us develop the ability to detect presuppositions, linguistic implications and get real good at establishing plausible inferences? Pretty pleeeeease!!!

[SaintSovereign]

@Joa23

Can we have script that helps us develop the ability to detect presuppositions, linguistic implications and get real good at establishing plausible inferences? Pretty pleeeeease!!!

Emperor: The Will to Power and the new Daredevil: True Social will have scripting like this.

[Joa23]

@SaintSovereign

Daredevil: True Social

That will go into my next custom! Awesome news!!!

[SaintSovereign]

Latest news on name-embedded majors (and a fun new build type to play with):

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The major name embeds are coming soon. We’re now actively working on it and finalizing all the details. At launch, you will be able to choose your mask, as well as power level: ZP Standard and ZP Terminus. We are, however replacing ZP Terminus Squared with a new experimental power level: Zero Point Quantum. It is very similar to ZP Terminus, however, the build method has been adjusted to hopefully run a bit smoother. As with Terminus Squared, it is highly experimental and best used alone or wit…

[magician]

A similar idea was proposed on march last year. But I’m not saint nor fire. So it was forgotten in the air. Good idea though.

Stacks results opinions for major programs

I have seen that many of us ask for results from running a stacks. So I open this thread, and hopefully @SaintSovereign and/or @Fire can give us their opinions if we run certain stacks. Ideally, only post one stack you would like to get the opinion. I began with these: Khan st4 + KB st4 + Wanted Black

[SaintSovereign]

@magician

A similar idea was proposed on march last year. But I’m not saint nor fire. So it was forgotten in the air. Good idea though.

Give feedback and suggest new ideas for Subliminal Club.

Slap ideas like that here, allowing us to recognize great suggestions like this a lot faster. In fact, if you’d like, go ahead and add it and then repost, then we’ll redirect people there for ideas on how to best achieve the “Stack Repository.”

For now, it’ll probably just be a thread, but eventually we’d love to create a database of potentials. Might just use Airtable or something for now, make it simple.