Ok thank you my subliminal routine is 1 on 1 off but on day 1 i listen to paragon and day 3 i listen to spartan so as not to cause recon by stacking them,do you think listening only twice a week 3-5 min that the affect would still last? Because with lesser listening time the results do come quicker but also go quicker right
Who said that?
Its a comman thing i see people reporting,you can search up micro loops in the search bar and see for yourself
It’s about you and your sweet spot there’s not a one size fits all.
You already have the info. Now experiment and report what you find.
No one can do the leg work of experimentation for you, they can only provide hypotheses for you to test
I concur. It’s a mixture of both western “hustle culture,” which lead to this idea that if you aren’t being intense ALL the time, you’re doing something wrong. Only recently did I start to defeat this idea.
I was working and working and working until I got burned out, which would last for like an entire week. I’ve finally decided that around 6:30pm, no more intensive work other than answering forum posts. Finally started to feel rested, clear and we’re actually making slow, but steady progress on the backend.
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IMMEDIATE effects. As in the immediate sensation of running a title may fade quicker simply because there’s less information being processed, but this isn’t about the “sensation” that comes with running a title. It’s about the long-term effects. If you’re running a title for that immediate “feeling,” you should consider prioritizing long-term growth instead.
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If you’re 100% sure you’re not getting disruptive recon, yes – feel free to do 15 minutes. But if you experience recon that slows down productivity and growth, cut back. Again – I know exactly what’s in the script and should theoretically be able to do the full title and yet even I stick with microloops. I haven’t run a full title outside of testing in a very long time.
RoW at 1-3 minutes has completely changed my perspective and life for the better. When it comes to wealth generation, I simply do not feel the same anymore. Less can indeed be better.
No – the anti-recon scripting helps you RESOLVE recon. If you’re running microloops, you’ll be able to dissolve that recon quicker. Like others are reporting, this iteration doesn’t seem to be preventing recon, but rather helping you integrate and understand the issue very fast.
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@SaintSovereign you recommended a custom of
Eog st1+Row+Me
And then Eogst2+ Eogst3 + Stark black
However what would you recommend for a trader
Eogst2+Eogst3+Hom ?
If you’re saying that you don’t ever do full 15 min, I probably myself won’t do that either.
Recon and finding a sweet spot has been a challenge for me. I have only gotten symptoms of overexposure during my first cycle. Currently 3rd cycle ever, and I still have yet to get any recon symptoms. I’m wondering if maybe some people can get it but don’t feel it. Similar to how some people have high blood pressure and won’t know for years, others can feel it in the form of headaches and other symptoms right away.
Anyhow, I don’t think I will do full 15 min loops since you yourself don’t do that either.
Don’t base your listening habits off anyone else. If you can handle 15 minutes, feel free to do so. I’m a mild hardgainer. I have a somewhat stubborn personality that’s open to change, but it has to be gradual, steady change. Pushing too hard sends me into a kind of demand avoidance, hence why I have to do microloops.
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So do you increase your listening time over 3 minutes over time?
For me it’s like I don’t get recon if I tell my subconscious to tell me when to stop listening.
But if I listen much longer I get headache, feel irritated and stuff.
Not in awhile. I have to constantly test new things, so it’s hard to maintain a regular stack for long periods of time.
I HAVE NEVER MET A NEW SUBLIMINAL USER THAT NEEDS MORE THAN 5 MINUTES OF EXPOSURE TO START
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I’m curious about this as well.
I noticed for the highly sensitive users myself, @Jouissance , etc who seem to get results quickly from microloops it’s easier to overexpose.
Where as people like @Plutus can run 9 full loops in a week and @Sub.Zero could probably do 40+ 
(slight exagerration)
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I think @Invictus being the only person who seems to be hyper sensitive to smaller amounts and effects and can run a ton of loops/stacks (if I remember correctly)
Most people can get great results off-3-5 minutes.
I have found in my conversations with people that only users who can run multiple loops a week with ease have also had success with terminus and terminus squared builds. I’m curious if there is a correlation here.
And how new tech will be built on more powerful tech, given that most people honestly don’t seem to need or would be able to handle it.
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What’s been helping the most? I’m slowly deconstructing this as well, probably the hardest thing I’ve ever done. Relearning how to motivate myself and get things done without that self administered shot of adrenaline.
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The life style plays a big role too. Using something like Wanted Black & living the good life will be different to someone using it while actively studying while living off ramen. The stack in question needs a certain starting point
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This is what i have been doing with a spiritual teacher as well so its very sync in action with drr4.
I would play a longer loop before session and the practice it self brings triggering things from unconscious to dissolve, transmute emotional charge and integrate what needs to be integrated, accepted and understood.
Looking forward to that tech and zpu dragonreborn red edition.
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Not exagerration at all, bruv.
However, it’s not the amount of exposure that matters as much as how truthful one is with themselves and to what degree they act on it — the flow factor heavily depends on that. One can’t lie to ZP, even if they’re running 40+ loops a week or sticking to perfect microloops.
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That’s very close to the kind of framework required when working with the new recon tech in order to truly capitalize on it.
This is a very good point as well. If you’re already financially taxed, for example, running a wealth sub will be much more difficult than if you start from a place where you’re a bit more relaxed. Makes me think a lot more about how we should approach an eventual “foundational” sub. I know everyone thinks it should be something alpha based, but I’ve been playing around with an idea that I’m not going to say openly yet, but would be a quite interesting take on a “foundational” title.
This is all phenomenal conversation, ideas and strategies. Keep it coming.
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I have done this as well before Qigong class. Results were iffy, since the style of Qigong I practice requires more than anything else, deep relaxation and the recon would prevent me from doing that. However, if I continued to practice another 30-45 minutes after class, that’s when I would see the most results.
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