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[TheGreenMan]

A couple of thoughts/ideas on TS:
(sorry, if they are too obvious)

UNDERSTANDING AND EMPATHY

Eagle Eyes, Deep Listening and empathy scripting would be great for “reading the room” and your opposite.

Mirroring would be an universal, powerful concept for social connections.

A module for cultural understanding (with an universal approach: From national/regional culture, subcultural to microcultural level.), like a variation of TWTP for social/cultural chess.

UNSHAKEABLE CONFIDENCE

This would be IMO one of the most important parts of the whole sub, something similar to Synergy: Iron Law but broader. Noone should ever be able to tell when you are faking it - as in „Fake it til you make it.“ -, no matter which social circle you are thrown into.

FLEXIBILITY AND STRONG AURA

While Daredevil is an incredibly strong social sub, the archetype is very much fixed as the storyteller & adventurer that grabs the audience for a wild ride.

Being an overall strong social player would need to be more versatile and flexible, so adaptability would be quite important.

Ideal would be (I don‘t know if this is possible) an aura that mostly just intensifies the immediate connection to the people around you, like social magnetism and magnifying whatever you are projecting, ranging from the Heart of the Party to being just a good listener.

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EDIT: Oh, and an Instant Spark variation would be great. Nothing is more important than the first impression.

[Bull_of_Shiva_999]

Stand-Up Comedian Stack: ASBR + Ultimate Artist/RM: UWX + Daredevil/True Social

[TheGreenMan]

I mean… If Song of Joy and Dragon Tongue would find their way into TS - both would make perfect sense - and add DD you are pretty much there already.

But honestly, everything you need is there already. Song of Joy and Dragon Tongue are the the comedy/humour modules, depending on your stage persona take Primal (for leaned back acidic sniping, commentary and take downs) or DD for more immersive funny storytelling and RM:UWX for the writing part.

[Prioritas]

@Jouissance

Absolutely. And I’d say, with an emphasis on 2-title stacks, as well.

ASBR + NR + True Social might be what some people need, but I’m sure a big chunk of users coud get nearly as much out of True Social and just ONE of those? Or… no?

But differentiating when someone would want to use NR + True Social, compared to ASBR + True Social, compared to all 3 would be extremely helpful. THATS what would help understand the difference.

Seconding this as it would 10x the clarity that you’d be trying to create by making the stack thread in the first place.

[Phoermes]

@SaintSovereign

Would anyone like this? An official “stack” thread, with our recommendations being added at the top and everyone can discuss and refine ideas in the comments? Eh, let’s try it.

With tier list!

Maybe someone who has some skills with web design could whip us all up a a quick build planner website. It would open up room for more customizing and creativity. It would especially be useful for customs.

[Joa23]

@SaintSovereign

Not “we made a mistake,” or “[x] person made a mistake.” Instead, it’s “mistakes were made,” as if whatever happened occurred completely by itself. There’s clear subtext here that – believe it or not – some people cannot grasp, even though it is very obvious on a deep, deep level what this form of communication means.

Can we have script that helps us develop the ability to detect presuppositions, linguistic implications and get real good at establishing plausible inferences? Pretty pleeeeease!!!

[SaintSovereign]

@Joa23

Can we have script that helps us develop the ability to detect presuppositions, linguistic implications and get real good at establishing plausible inferences? Pretty pleeeeease!!!

Emperor: The Will to Power and the new Daredevil: True Social will have scripting like this.

[Joa23]

@SaintSovereign

Daredevil: True Social

That will go into my next custom! Awesome news!!!

[SaintSovereign]

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[magician]

A similar idea was proposed on march last year. But I’m not saint nor fire. So it was forgotten in the air. Good idea though.

Stacks results opinions for major programs

I have seen that many of us ask for results from running a stacks. So I open this thread, and hopefully @SaintSovereign and/or @Fire can give us their opinions if we run certain stacks. Ideally, only post one stack you would like to get the opinion. I began with these: Khan st4 + KB st4 + Wanted Black

[SaintSovereign]

@magician

A similar idea was proposed on march last year. But I’m not saint nor fire. So it was forgotten in the air. Good idea though.

Give feedback and suggest new ideas for Subliminal Club.

Slap ideas like that here, allowing us to recognize great suggestions like this a lot faster. In fact, if you’d like, go ahead and add it and then repost, then we’ll redirect people there for ideas on how to best achieve the “Stack Repository.”

For now, it’ll probably just be a thread, but eventually we’d love to create a database of potentials. Might just use Airtable or something for now, make it simple.

[JCDenton]

@SaintSovereign

perhaps these types of archetypical lists would help resolve this confusion issue? You all supply us with a list of archetypes or use cases and we just make a thread with our recommendations for that use case?

Would anyone like this? An official “stack” thread, with our recommendations being added at the top and everyone can discuss and refine ideas in the comments?

Yes please

This would be very helpful for mentally matching the various titles with their expression through the archetypes, and vice versa.

[James]

Why be an archetype or whatever? Why not just be or become the best version of yourselves? Seems incredibly over complicated

[SaintSovereign]

@James

Why be an archetype or whatever? Why not just be or become the best version of yourselves? Seems incredibly over complicated

The idea of an archetype is that it is the pure expression of a pattern that exists within society. Then, you have “sub-archetypes” beneath those. By associating with an archetype, you are attempting to align yourself with qualities that you find desirable that could change your life. You aren’t becoming that person or ideal, you’re learning from them.

Which is how we learn as humans anyway. We watch others. We make adjustments to our lives. Using archetypes, we systematize this natural process, turning them into a tool that one can use. Any time you watch a self-help video, or something of the sort, you’re doing just that anyway.

EDIT: And I’d rather say, “The Tony Stark Stack,” rather than “This stack is for those who want to yada yada yada,” because if I say “The Tony Stark Stack,” most people immediately will understand the ideals behind that stack.

[JCDenton]

Ideas for True Social:

• Next to selling, probably one of the most important skills in life is negotiating. So maybe some skill building with negotiating? Knowing when you are entering a negotiation and then 48 Laws of Power or something similar to get the most out of it. Including reading all the social cues, adapting to any type of people.

• Being able to give speeches that sway the whole court room to your side (and you winning the court case).

• Intercultural competence and respective callibration when dealing with people from different cultures: Hofstede’s Model of key cultural differences could be a viable basis to build this upon.

[JCDenton]

I remember when you explained to me the archetype of Hank Moody:
All the time I thought that Hank Moody is the Wanted archetype, while he was more the Primal archetype in the end. And I was only able to see the primal aspects of his archetype after you’ve told me.

[unusualfellow]

Interesting… I don’t remember reading Hank Moody embodies Primal

[RVconsultant]

I would encourage you to check out books by: Suzette Elgin. She had a back ground in linguistics and wrote books about identifying verbal manipulation. It’s been awhile, but I think she identified at least 8 assumptions people make to try to set up a subtext.

[SaintSovereign]

@JCDenton

Ideas for True Social:

• Next to selling, probably one of the most important skills in life is negotiating. So maybe some skill building with negotiating? Knowing when you are entering a negotiation and then 48 Laws of Power or something similar to get the most out of it. Including reading all the social cues, adapting to any type of people.
• Being able to give speeches that sway the whole court room to your side (and you winning the court case).
• Intercultural competence and respective callibration when dealing with people from different cultures: Hofstede’s Model of key cultural differences could be a viable basis to build this upon.

@JCDenton

Now, THIS is something I can work with. Appreciate the suggestions, especially the third. Can guarantee we’ll see some form of this in the title.

Keep ‘em coming, everyone. The script is quite developed but there’s still room and time to get your ideas in.

When you hear a name like “Daredevil: True Social,” what immediately comes to mind? Imagery, concepts, feature ideas. Post ‘em.

andvotetruesocialin2025

[Sub.Zero]

@SaintSovereign

what immediately comes to mind? Imagery

Like, seriously. Social game masters that rose to power. I guess, it would be more like TWTP, though. However, that calculating mind amidst all the fun helps.