Im curious too, specially now since Ive forgotten about Phoenix.
Dragon Reborn Red
Dragon Reborn Gold
Dragon Reborn Phoenix
Dragon Reborn The Regenerator
It makes me think of a blend from the original Regeneration objectives and some of Paragon.
Im sure we are gonna be pleasantly surprised.
And Dragon Reborn: Limit Destroyer !
Haha
If you ran the full Dragon Reborn collection, you’d have dragon breath
There’s no way they forgot about EOG or Mind’s Eye etc
Our guys have a best way to work- that’s fun and stimulating to them to accomplish a very steep workload of titles
Yes, many guys have been there-
the motivation to try seduction subs
weekend is coming ，I guess this week we are not gonna get Primal Romance ？ maybe next week ？Murga….2024 
Regeneration is the only ever sub I ran only for a week or two and never went back to because of how uncomfortable I felt in my solar plexus, it brings up emotions like no other sub and is hard for me to run.
Saying this now I’m tempted to try again sometime, but right now Phoenix is wonderful, it doesn’t feel like a healing sub, it gives me a lot of clarity and energy.
Dang… now I gotta try it!
Which one Phoenix or Regen?
Regeneration, I have Phoenix
If you try it write a review on the Regen thread if anything comes up, I’m curious what people experience with this, it was too disruptive to my mood to keep going, it felt like a slow and painful unraveling in my belly area, like someone put a blade through and was slowly twisting it around.
PN seems to be so popular that it could justify an expansion. You COULD add RotNW to it, but, I think even better would be to enhance it with its own aura specifically for “nail em to the bed” sex.
And just like how RoTNW has the extra support scripting to control the nectar, that could go in PN too.
With this new product (PN+RotN) I would gladly replace Sex Mastery as a Core spot in my custom.
5char!
The more I think about it the more confused I get, how does Primal and Romance fit together?
I got this weird scenario in my mind of a guy bringing flowers to this girl and shoving them intensely down her bra between her boobs and before she gets to think what the fuck is going on her heart is already melting under the tender heat of her lover’s kiss.
You’ll see soon. 
Make Romance Great Again – MURGA 2024. Primal Romance, now available:
Improve physical intimacy with the inclusion of performance scripting from DIAMOND, Sex Mastery X, and Primal Nights.
just WOW
What is the MAIN difference between Primal Romance and Divine Diamond? I don’t really see much of a difference. Is Primal Romance more “animalistic” and Divine Diamond more “spiritual”?
And I have the same question about Emperor Daddy, when I read the copy it feels like a variation of Primal with added physical shifting into it and other minor additions. So not sure why someone who runs Primal or Khan would go for Emperor Daddy? Except for when they want to specifically radiate that “experienced man” vibe?
Sorry to ask these questions, but that’s just my perception of those new titles. I don’t see any big and main differentiators to already existing products.
I also switched over from Khan to Primal. Both read and feel like they are almost the same title with the difference, that Primal is more “fun” and Khan is more “always serious” – which is the main reason why I switched from Khan to Primal. I don’t want to be “serious” all the time, so Primal is the better fit for me and connects much better with ASBR in the stack.
I am mentioning all of this because understanding the REAL MAIN differences between the products is still a pain in the ass for me.
Some titles read and feel so similar that one can only tell the difference between them by reading the sales copy word for word and paying super close attention to every single word and then check in the sales copy of the other similar product whether that word appears there as well or not.
And sometimes one has to actually run the titles to understand their differences in the first place. I didn’t understood how Primal is different from Khan until I ran it. This was absolutely not clear for me from comparing the sales copies.
Also, many sales copies have this “Similarities/Differences: None.” in them, which never makes sense to me, especially when two titles are like 80% aiming for the same objectives?!?! 
I think what I am really missing in all those product descriptions, in order to effectively compare them is a “short to the point objectives list” of each title and also more “key words” what the titles is about. Key words that actually help, not super general things like “status”.
This way one doesn’t have to mine the long sales copies for possible differences manually. Because what happens during this mining process, is that my own perception selectively filters out or selectively pays attention to specific words – which may not be the same key focussed words as intended by the copy writer. Which leads to a heavy distortion of what the copy writer thinks the title’s objectives are versus what the reader reads in the long text jungle through their personal perception filters.
You’re trolling right? You HAVE to be trolling.
You already got this answer when you said all spiritual subs were the same.
Yes… you have to read the descriptions to understand the difference 
Top tier trolling.
Here’s the answer you got last time.
What if someone wants to turn sex into a sexual/spiritual experience a la DivD but doesn’t want the before sex/after sex to be especially romantic.
Not even gonna get started on how different EmpD is to every other sub every released by far
@JCDenton I think one thing that will be extremely helpful for you is to think about your goals first and your subliminals second. Really define who you want to be in life and then run the sub that helps you get there and is most aligned.
Khan being serious Vs Primal being fun isn’t a minor difference, it’s a HUGE difference. What do you ultimately want for your life?
All subs in the seduction category help you get more sex, so if your goal is simply “more sex” than you’ll never understand the nuance. But if your goal is a maximally enjoyable lifestyle that is so aligned to who you are that more sex is a natural byproduct, then, now it becomes really important to pick the sub that most aligns with you. You’ll have more sex regardless. But do you want to be more serious (khan) or more fun (primal?). Do you want to do cold approaches (PS) or be approached (WB?).
Same with the sexual enhancement subs. PN and RoTNW are wildly different. In one, you have rough sex, and in the other, you lay back and get extracted. Both have manifestation scripting. Both have stamina scripting to support those manifestations. On the surface, they’re similar, but if you actually read the descriptions (not just the objectives) you’ll understand the difference.
Not to mention PN is primarily a sexual enhancement/pillow talk sub, and RoTNW is primarily a sexual manifestation sub, so they’re not even “similar but different.”
