I use Pheremones depending on the occasion, I’ve used them for about 5 or 6 years, and have come to the conclusion that mones are best used once in a relationship or for events where you’d need to network, or have a high status. I no longer use mones to attract women. As of three years ago.
I use LaL and Sometimes I go to Clubs/festivals as I have a small side business with some major clubs, influencers and know a few people that run major festivals and sometimes I’ll go on certain big nights, When I do this I just use AV+BW for extreme status.
I used to use socials but for that situation, Status > Social.
I don’t want some random dude yapping my ear off when I need to talk/connect with certain people. Since the people I mix with there have high status, I also use this to match it.
In my opinion, clubs are not really a place to meet women, it’s a biiig trap. Sure if I get laid by accident or whatever, by some woman who’s into me and stays around without “going to the bathroom” after five minutes of chilling/chatting then cool, but I don’t look for it, I do watch out when women are out for me, and give me opportunities, but that rarely happens…even when I tried pheremones that were specifically for that.
Also, I actually don’t use Pheremones in daily life, they are too pricey to waste on things that don’t give any ROI. So If I use the products, I’m expecting to either:
A: Open up a pathway for money
B:Get laid easily
B hasn’t happened with Pheremones pretty much ever (I’ve gotten more women when not using them than when using them). . .BUT when I had …“Spicy Nights” with pheremones, THAT’s where they shone.
But yeah, if you aren’t getting any return on buying and using them, there’s no point and you’re e kind of just wasting your money. . .Hence, Subliminals
At least if they don’t work initially, you have them forever, so you can just keep listening untill you get what you’re wanting out of them, or 3-4 years pass haha.
With Pheremones you have to KEEP buying them as they run out.
So yeah Pheremones = very niche situations for use. limited resource
Subs = many situations for use, unlimited resource once bought.
I kinda think if you’re using Pheremones to get laid, you’re most likely wasting your money. pretty much no one puts on some pheremones, goes out and get a woman home for the night. Maybe they can get a date for later, I can admit, but for immediate ROI, it’s not going to work.
You’ll need to have the looks, then the knowledge to cut through all the B.S. that happens with a night out, i.e. the woman’s friends, other dudes, staff members that get jealous and cock-block you, bouncers, the DJ that has more status than you, the Fridge, the girl’s friends who are jealous (again), a drunk woman that’s barely walking and probably spewing on the ground (making it just gross and not worth it) the logistics of getting a girl home etc. . .
Then someone would say “Well, what about day game” I would say to that: "How about not wasting your time chasing women and work on escaping the rat race so that you’re not beholden to a boss/layoffs? Day game is also a trap. If you have the time to “Day Game”, you have the time to work on a side hustle that gets you closer to .F.I.R.E AND work out in the gym so that if you post a picture on a dating app, the women come to you.
So yeah, honestly, Pheremones outside of very niche activities/already in a relationship = trap.
