Did this happen before when you ran Wanted solo?
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At this point, I am actually considering it, but hereās the thing, I want us to work it out together before I rely on a sub for that, notice how even though I was already getting bigger on wanted and EF, I still made the custom a physical changes one right? Cause I know this way that Iām not fully relying on the sub and that I have the ability to get results with training without the sub, which is why I told myself that this needs communication and if it went on for longer than it should, only then Iād consider heartsong as a final resort.
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Nope never, in fact the first time I ran wanted with my custom, everything was good, but it was also around that time the arguments started, then things get calmer, but soon as I run even just one loop, then we end up arguing, and I only realized this today because today started pretty nicely, then I got the epiphany to maybe try it now as there are no issues going on so maybe something different will happen, but I guess somethingās off with me and WANTED, I mean I do notice the effects of WANTED straight away (stares, extra kindness and public harassment from both genders) but whether I tell my girl if I used WANTED or not, we end up having an argument, while as before, I used to praise WANTED about the fact that one of its results Iām getting is that I can get away with anything I do or say, and it felt like my girlfriend was worshipping me, so I donāt really know whatās going on
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Okay. Maybe she needs reassurance. I know some girls that like it when their man get extra attention but also will start to feel nervous
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hmmm, could be, but its not like her to be like this, especially only when I run one specific sub that wasnāt a big deal to her before.
Sheās probably doing this subconsciously. Maybe a preconceived notion of you in her subconscious that changes when you run Wanted. And this elicits a argumentative behavior. Take this with a grain of salt.
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It does make sense in a way, I guess the attractive aura of wanted brings out her insecurities now, because when I was doing a washout after wanted while waiting for my custom (she knows about subs and everything so she knows what I use most of the time), I remember we were in a mall and I told her that itās so funny how so many girls keep staring even with her walking next to me, and that I feel that wantedās effects got amplified when I stopped running it, and I guess since then every time I run it, i guess it makes her become cautious and her anxiety shoots up, I mean I am her first ārealā boyfriend after all, so there will be separation anxiety, probably because she never experienced anything before me and that makes think that Iām this one of a kind person and the chances of another girl snatching me away from her on wanted increase, so maybe itās that
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If your best friend offered you good advice that would solve this issue, would you take it?
There are also some good points above.
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dunno man doesnt sound healthy, can you not put your foot down and demand some peace so you can streamline your self development?
or perhaps find any way you deem fit to get the emotions out of the way so you can grind
youāre right, but at the same time, I feel like I shouldnāt do that (just yet) and the solution for it would be for me to become a better version of myself.
Iām sorry about you and your girlfriend not getting along lately. Subliminals are like a best friend. You can take their advice and benefit.
Perhaps Heartsong might help.
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I actually did this, and then something happened (could be primal or that one listen of wanted at play), but she suddenly became very submissive and loving, no issues or anything, till the evening time where she asked me if I would keep running wanted, i replied ālook, this relationship is more important to me than you realize, however, I already put a lot of time into solving these issues and everytime I ran wanted to be better, it just caused an argument, even when you didnāt know I used itā, as I donāt know how many have seen this happen or experienced it, but the more time you give to a woman, the more submissive wanted will make her, probably the aura and the fact that the āmysteryā aspect of wanted makes time spent with you even more valuable to them, but yeah I told her I wonāt try it again, but at the same time, the day I feel like Iām putting way too much effort into the relation and itās not really serving me well, then Iāll start khan and be on my journey, with or without her
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you think i should use heartsong instead of primal?
or 1 loop each and take one extra day off? I have a feeling heartsong is pretty dense
also sorry guys for the lack of updates, I know I used to update all the time and stuff, but lately itās been hard to even finish up full meals.
anywayyyys, with that out of the way, i have been noticing something, primal is pushing me to not stay at home if iām not at the gym, like i feel this push to always be outside in pubic areas, specifically places where lots of young adults hang around often. noticing stares recently from girls only (different to wanted - everyone stared on that) and it feels different than before, like if i could explain the stares iāve noticed throughout my journey so far, it would be like this;
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Wanted: stares of fascination and attraction, making people think ādamn heās hotā
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OnlyGains: stares of admiration, making people motivated to train, as well as the gloryseeker aura making people stare at me like im a VIP
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Primal: stares of lust, making girls look at me with gawk gawk double trouble 3000 eyes
primal is actually doing something to me that I never thought I needed, which is making me own my looks and sexiness, when I was on wanted, I knew I looked hot, but never owned it, like yeah the sub did guide me to wear certain things and get certain haircuts, but still, it felt more like external changes, and while i thought i got very confident from wanted, primal is another beast, i donāt only own it now, i just donāt care about how anyone sees me, because I know that at the end of the day, Iām not just cute and attractive, iām a hot beast 
i could only imagine what would happen if i found a way to run all 3 (OG, Primal, Wanted) without slowing down any gains, while making full use of the primal confidence and be every girlās dream guy.
honestly thinking about doing my old way of stacking, meaning i could do OG for 5 days a week, while keeping primal and wanted 3 times a week, it could work, or end up with me not getting out of bed due to being drained.
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Great to hear, because Iāve learnt that the caliber of women you get once you filter out the ones that try to control you skyrockets, and I mean the ones who control you once you start using these alpha titles, I havenāt been able to work with a single one of them as the action of improving slowly and consistently shows you which ones are controlling and which ones are just very glad to be around you
If itās 50/50 either regain frame fully or walk Out cuz itās very rarely worth it stunting your self improvement for a girl, just my experience
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If I was in a relationship and had your play list, I would do the following:
WANTED 2 or 3 times a week
OnlyGains 2 or 3 times a week
Heartsong once a week, maybe 2 times a week.
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How about the same stack but primal instead of heartsong, since I currently own those 3, and Furthermore more, I want to know if the argument when I listened to wanted was because she felt insecure or if it was just a coincidence, todayās a listening and so far I only listened to my custom, if you think the stack would work with primal there too, then Iāll listen to both wanted and primal later on
Itās up to you. If you think that might be better, then go for it.
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Well I already kinda started those 3 as a stack on my last listening day, so Iāll try it now, maybe primalās healing will help me as well, since the topics of the arguments were sexual, so I guess I should give the stack some more time before judging stuff, as I still didnāt get my appetite back properly, so I canāt judge if Iām gaining muscle or not, however, even just one listen to wanted on my last listening day with my custom already made me a bit leaner, I guess wanted slows down the gains because it burns more calories, therefore I need to up my calories even more or Iāll get shredded, so my view kinda changed now on wanted and it really seems like a win win situation.
Like I think this is still a realization from sage from before, because my viewpoint on the stack changed and I realized that I was criticizing wanted too much because my whole focus was just muscle gain, when in reality, low body fat is also important and maybe Iād end up preferring looking shredded at this size rather than gain more, so Iāll see where this takes me now and going to commit to it and asses it till mid October, then itās gonna be a washout till November
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