If your best friend offered you good advice that would solve this issue, would you take it?
There are also some good points above.
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dunno man doesnt sound healthy, can you not put your foot down and demand some peace so you can streamline your self development?
or perhaps find any way you deem fit to get the emotions out of the way so you can grind
you’re right, but at the same time, I feel like I shouldn’t do that (just yet) and the solution for it would be for me to become a better version of myself.
I’m sorry about you and your girlfriend not getting along lately. Subliminals are like a best friend. You can take their advice and benefit.
Perhaps Heartsong might help.
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I actually did this, and then something happened (could be primal or that one listen of wanted at play), but she suddenly became very submissive and loving, no issues or anything, till the evening time where she asked me if I would keep running wanted, i replied “look, this relationship is more important to me than you realize, however, I already put a lot of time into solving these issues and everytime I ran wanted to be better, it just caused an argument, even when you didn’t know I used it”, as I don’t know how many have seen this happen or experienced it, but the more time you give to a woman, the more submissive wanted will make her, probably the aura and the fact that the “mystery” aspect of wanted makes time spent with you even more valuable to them, but yeah I told her I won’t try it again, but at the same time, the day I feel like I’m putting way too much effort into the relation and it’s not really serving me well, then I’ll start khan and be on my journey, with or without her
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you think i should use heartsong instead of primal?
or 1 loop each and take one extra day off? I have a feeling heartsong is pretty dense
also sorry guys for the lack of updates, I know I used to update all the time and stuff, but lately it’s been hard to even finish up full meals.
anywayyyys, with that out of the way, i have been noticing something, primal is pushing me to not stay at home if i’m not at the gym, like i feel this push to always be outside in pubic areas, specifically places where lots of young adults hang around often. noticing stares recently from girls only (different to wanted - everyone stared on that) and it feels different than before, like if i could explain the stares i’ve noticed throughout my journey so far, it would be like this;
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Wanted: stares of fascination and attraction, making people think “damn he’s hot”
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OnlyGains: stares of admiration, making people motivated to train, as well as the gloryseeker aura making people stare at me like im a VIP
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Primal: stares of lust, making girls look at me with gawk gawk double trouble 3000 eyes
primal is actually doing something to me that I never thought I needed, which is making me own my looks and sexiness, when I was on wanted, I knew I looked hot, but never owned it, like yeah the sub did guide me to wear certain things and get certain haircuts, but still, it felt more like external changes, and while i thought i got very confident from wanted, primal is another beast, i don’t only own it now, i just don’t care about how anyone sees me, because I know that at the end of the day, I’m not just cute and attractive, i’m a hot beast 
i could only imagine what would happen if i found a way to run all 3 (OG, Primal, Wanted) without slowing down any gains, while making full use of the primal confidence and be every girl’s dream guy.
honestly thinking about doing my old way of stacking, meaning i could do OG for 5 days a week, while keeping primal and wanted 3 times a week, it could work, or end up with me not getting out of bed due to being drained.
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Great to hear, because I’ve learnt that the caliber of women you get once you filter out the ones that try to control you skyrockets, and I mean the ones who control you once you start using these alpha titles, I haven’t been able to work with a single one of them as the action of improving slowly and consistently shows you which ones are controlling and which ones are just very glad to be around you
If it’s 50/50 either regain frame fully or walk Out cuz it’s very rarely worth it stunting your self improvement for a girl, just my experience
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If I was in a relationship and had your play list, I would do the following:
WANTED 2 or 3 times a week
OnlyGains 2 or 3 times a week
Heartsong once a week, maybe 2 times a week.
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How about the same stack but primal instead of heartsong, since I currently own those 3, and Furthermore more, I want to know if the argument when I listened to wanted was because she felt insecure or if it was just a coincidence, today’s a listening and so far I only listened to my custom, if you think the stack would work with primal there too, then I’ll listen to both wanted and primal later on
It’s up to you. If you think that might be better, then go for it.
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Well I already kinda started those 3 as a stack on my last listening day, so I’ll try it now, maybe primal’s healing will help me as well, since the topics of the arguments were sexual, so I guess I should give the stack some more time before judging stuff, as I still didn’t get my appetite back properly, so I can’t judge if I’m gaining muscle or not, however, even just one listen to wanted on my last listening day with my custom already made me a bit leaner, I guess wanted slows down the gains because it burns more calories, therefore I need to up my calories even more or I’ll get shredded, so my view kinda changed now on wanted and it really seems like a win win situation.
Like I think this is still a realization from sage from before, because my viewpoint on the stack changed and I realized that I was criticizing wanted too much because my whole focus was just muscle gain, when in reality, low body fat is also important and maybe I’d end up preferring looking shredded at this size rather than gain more, so I’ll see where this takes me now and going to commit to it and asses it till mid October, then it’s gonna be a washout till November
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At the risk of sounding like a worried older brother…
Growth might increase more at some times rather than others. Also if you lose fat or water, it might appear you’re losing rather than gaining. Do you have a scale or device that might track body fat? Even so, the measurements can fluctuate due to “error” that is in the scale or device.
What if you had a “weigh in day”? As in once a week you take measurements. I’m wondering if too much monitoring might lead to over-concern about gain and then lead to stress and then lead to cortisol elevation, and then I think you know what I’m getting at.
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This a scale I’ve been using for almost 2 years. It’s been pretty reliable. I weigh myself 2-4 times just to make sure it’s the right weight.
FITINDEX Smart Bluetooth Body Fat Scale with Upgraded App, High Precision Bathroom Scales Digital Weight and Body Fat Body Composition Monitor, 396lb/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JJ4KMS5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_NHBDMENdMLBen
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Thank you for posting this idea!
Thank you so much guys, and yes @RVconsultant there is a machine body comp analysis machine I use at the gym that showed my body fat percentage dropping to 10.5% now. And I have calipers at home as well which show that I’m between 10.5-11.5%, so that is confirmed (I checked today too and last time was before the last time I listened to wanted, it was 11.1% on the machine).
Another thing, I realized that the confidence in my skin that I’m getting from primal is actually making me a bit less concerned with how much I gain, making me less stressed out, I noticed I’m not checking my weight constantly either, nor am I concerned with my muscle sizes (I get anxious even if it dropped by 0.1 inch), so I think now I’ll enjoy looking the way I do and strive to improve, rather than thinking I need to eat more and gain more at any cost. Just wanna be chill now tbh.
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A number of years ago there was a book written:
The gist is that there is pressure on boys and men to look a certain way. In that, males might feel self conscious or have a body image problem if they aren’t as muscular as they think they should be.
I don’t know if this idea ever gain momentum, but I think it’s supposed to be something similar to women thinking they aren’t thin enough and then having eating problems.
You might want to read this book, or a summary, as perhaps it might help you gain any perspective on your body image that might help you.
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Yea I really need to work on my body image issues, there’s a lot of healing that can be done in that aspect as well, and this is kinda one of the main reasons I was inclined to start khan alongside my custom and just stay on that road till I’m done with all the stages, but then I saw primal can help with that too (in a way), so I’m going to see what happens, like I said, since running primal, I feel better than before, sage helped me with it before too, but ultimately the issue is much worse that I would need something like khan TB or DR for it, since I used to be extremely skinny and bullied for it, so the fear of being picked on and social acceptance became the first 2 motivators for me, and I guess you can tell what this ended up doing right? I mean it’s been 10 years since then.
But thank you for the recommendation, I’ll check it out.
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Invictus’ thoughts: “hmmm I think I might be stonewalling after rotating subs with my custom so many times”
Invictus on OG and WQ; deadlifts 160kg after not doing it since December
P.S. I did deadlift like 3 weeks ago, but it was the only time I did since December, and it was with moderate weights (100kg) to just superset with a horizontal pull (seated rows).
So far i kinda laid off of primal after the initial use, as I’d like to put all my focus in the physical shifting, and as suspected, I’m making gains again finally, having my girl finally calm down about everything actually made such a huge impact, that even my appetite seemed like it came back within an hour after we moved on from all the arguments. I guess you could say that the sadness I felt from the arguments could have slowed down the processing of the subs 
I mean, it probably did as the one thing I confirmed during this whole arguments phase, is that I love her so much that if she’s down (especially if it’s because of me), then nothing else matters to me as much.
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