On being an alpha

He was probably a hobosexual

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They had a kid. Took the stroller out of the car.

Point is: if you look for evidence of what you believe, you will find it. So why not look for empowering evidence instead of disempowering evidence?

The sister of a girl I was fucking at the time was a solid 8.5. Yet her boyfriend couldn’t last more than a minute with her during sex. Yet she stayed with him. It blew all my preconceived notions out the window

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I get it. I’m just fucking with you.
I do agree though that there is a subtle line there between confidence and indifference that guys like that have.

Who knows. All I know is it’s possible to be the opposite of everything they say women are into. And it’s not like I only saw one guy like that either. Over the years, I’ve seen lots.

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Imo it dependes on the specific needs of the woman. Maybe they fill their emotional needs?
which the alpha chad doesnt…

there is always a need to be filled when a woman with somebody, there is no such thing as platonic relationship(but its fun to believe in it)

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There’s a few things here.

First, the concept of being on your own journey, heading towards your own goals. Not dropping everything to make the woman the center of your universe. Instead, she has to work for your attention. She gets on board while you are heading in the same direction, you enjoy each other’s company and at some point may part ways again.

It tends to be attractive to a woman to be with a man who has his own thing going on. She will of course try very hard to change him, make him forget about that and focus on her. But once she succeeds she’ll lose interest.

So always have your own thing. Doesn’t mean you can’t spend time with her, you can give her lots of attention. But not 24/7. Never lose sight of your goals. Or your friends.

The second thing is what you call indifference. Imagine being able to walk into the stream of an ice cold shower and shrugging it off. Or coming from a dinner with a woman, finding a parking ticket on your windshield, looking at it without it affecting you at all. Then, once in the car, you lean over, place it in the glove compartment and check her seat belt while you’re there. It’s like the ticket, no matter how much it’ll cost you, didn’t affect you at all.

That calm, composed attitude conveys that you’re in charge of your world, in charge of your life. That too is a powerful and attractive thing. Instinctively, women like a man to be their rock, the solid presence in a turbulent (emotional) universe. I’ve had more than one woman tell me she loves holding on to me to ground herself. The downside is I’ve once had an employer describe me as “emotionally flat” :slight_smile:

As far as appearance goes, women are less concerned with that. Usually. They are still affected by it. If you take two men with the same amount of attractive internal traits, but one of them is suntanned, fit and looking healthy, they will still prefer that one.

They also like physical attraction for one night stands and casual sex. Biologically they might cheat on their spouse/boyfriend with a physically aggressive and attractive man, since those genes provide stronger offspring with a higher chance of survival (and procreation). There was a bit of research done on this in the UK years back, where it turned out that not only did women cheat as much as men, they usually cheated during their most fertile period of the month. They are just better at concealing it from their significant other.

This does not stop them from loving their significant other or staying with them. They need a caretaker for their strong offspring.

So, I believe as men we still should do our best to take care of ourselves even if we do have all the “alpha” traits. We owe it to ourselves and her to be the best possible version of ourselves, from physical health and fitness to clothes, house and transportation to mental health.

See it as a challenge to yourself. What can you achieve with the tools you have? At best I may look like Jason Statham on a bad hair day, but if that’s my best version I’ll take it. :slight_smile:

Something interesting to do is to find a professional photographer and do a glamour shoot. Have their make-up artist give you a once-over, let them pick the expensive outfit, do the shoot then let them do some Photoshop magic. Then look at that every once in a while, realizing that if you wanted to, you could look like that. That awesome figure is still you, all they did was accentuate what’s already there.

For fun, some photographers also provide a service to turn you into a woman for the shoot. Wigs, makeup, clothing. I’ve seen some really awesome results.

Oh, ever seen those photos of porn stars without makeup? Yikes!

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You just described the term “Alpha fucks beta bucks” in a rational evolutionary way, i totally dig that lol

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I feel like in this case the person itself the girl is dating or doing other stuff with has something in store to which attracts the girl to him that isn’t looks or materialistic things. For example, the person could have a amazing personality or something of that nature. Also I read somewhere that one of the psychological reason why girls like a guy who has tattoos (You know what I mean) is because he reassembles a “bad boy” which some girls love.

Anyway over the years, I’ve learnt that the old time PUA (Mystery and Neil Streuss, etc) is not the way to go to attract a hot girl. For me anyway, I learn being myself, confident and just have a conversation with a girl I just met from a friend or I cold approached usually becomes a relationship or other things which I believe is because of how our society is becoming more and more “betazized”. More and more guys meet girls online threw tinder and other dating apps which makes you a rare and I guess a alpha if you cold approach a girl in person because a lot of people don’t do that anymore and it’s only going to become more and more of a thing as time pasts on (I suggest watching MPMD video about the subject to understand it in more depth).

I don’t really care about Alpha, I just want to reach my goals. If it is a sub for true love, then I just want to run that sub. I don’t like it when I have to run Ascension first because i lack foundation.

From my point of view most people here struggle with truely connecting with someone. This hard Alpha stuff just gets in the way of that. I know most guys like that hard alpha but it seems like away to avoid being vulnreable.

If you know how to connect things will go more your way anyway.

Look for Alpha Subs on youtube and you will see a lot of akward boys. Wrong way to for them if they want to fulfill their need

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I agree mostly.

I think the challenge is to be open to your vulnerability and open to your strength at the same time.

Don’t let anyone else, woman or man, tell you who you are allowed to be, or who you have to be. Obeying someone else’s instructions for your identity. How can that be strength? How could it come from anything but insecurity?

Do your best.

Do your best not to be overwhelmed by fear of pain and fear and shame of the real areas of weakness or limitation that may live within you at this moment.

Don’t be pain’s bitch.

People who pretend to be above pain and vulnerability, are afraid of the pain of an open heart, afraid of the pain of rejection.

I don’t blame them. I’m afraid of that pain too. But courage is born from striving to stand tall in the fire of fear. Including the fear of emotional pain, rejection, and vulnerability.

Denial can be useful sometimes, and we really need it sometimes; but sooner or later, it’s time to face the enemies that live inside of your own heart and mind. Compared to them, any external adversaries are small potatoes.

This is what I’ve been learning and being reminded of by reading some great posts in the past week here. Thanks to all who are sharing your wisdom and experiences.

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@Malkuth you worded how I feel about this situation so eloquently! Thank you so much

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There’s a reason it’s right after your post. You helped me to write it, @aaa. And @Billions and a bunch of others who I can’t remember right now. So thank you right back.

Some insights are so tenuous that I seem to forget them right after I remember them! This is especially true of anything fear-related.

There are so many people here on this forum facing fear and marching through limitations—each in their own way. It’s very inspiring.

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be your own version of alpha

what you see is alpha, become that

no rules in this world but yours, enjoy your own company and love yourself truly and deeply

and you’ll notice that theres a lot of girls that are into you, once you stop chasing women and focusing on your true self and your purpose everything will fall down into that

i remember when i used to care about girls and chasing them trying to flirt and trying to get their attention back in the days when i didnt love myself truly, i had rough times with them they left me and i was desperate, but then my consciousness transcended with effective healing and educating myself and experiencing my true nature,

then i noticed that when i was fulfilled with my own self and loving my own and enjoying my own company, girls would feel attracted to me, and now its about picking who you want to be close to that has not so huge of a cap of consciousness

i think i heard will smith say this , and also my master and teacher taught me this

“dont worry about finding friends or a lover, find your dharma (your message and purpose, why youre here in this world) and the right people will come into your life”

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It’ll be amazing of course

By the way I did not run it