Number Of Loops In ZP Listening Schedules

Hi everyone. I thought I would post something about Zero Point (ZP) listening schedules and the number of loops in a 21 day listening cycle. This was inspired by the one question thread about ZP schedules & days count.

I cover each case as shown in the ZP listening guidelines.

Note that is a long post.

 

ZP Listening Patterns & Number Of Loops


This section is long and detailed. If you’d like, you can scroll down to the summary table for the number of loops in a 21 day listening cycle for a ZP stack.

In the listening patterns, it is 3 titles maximum if at least one of the 3 titles is a Zero Point title. The listening days are on Days 1, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19 and 21. These are odd numbered days.

The rest days occur on even numbers which are Days 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18 and 20.

After day 21, take five days off for a washout period. The washout days are Days 22, 23, 24, 25, 26. Another 21 day cycle would occur after Day 26.

 

One ZP Title Only

In each listening day you play the single ZP title at 1 loop or 2 loops.

  • Day 1: ZP Title (One loop or Two)
  • Day 2: Rest
  • Day 3: ZP Title (One loop or Two)
  • Day 4: Rest
  • Day 5: ZP Title (One loop or Two)

and so on until Day 21.

Over the 21 days the number of loops played for the single ZP title is 11 loops (11 x 1) minimum or 22 (11 x 2) loops maximum.

 

Two ZP Titles Only Stack

In a listening day, it is one loop for each ZP title.

  • Day 1: ZP Title #1, ZP Title #2
  • Day 2: Rest
  • Day 3: ZP Title #1, ZP Title #2
  • Day 4: Rest

and continue until Day 21.

The total number of loops in this 21 day period is 22. ZP Title #1 gets 11 loops and ZP title #2 gets 11 loops.

 

One ZP & One Qv2 Stack

Day 1: ZP title (1 or 2 loops)
Day 2: Rest
Day 3: Qv2 Title One Loop
Day 4: Rest
Day 5: ZP title (1 or 2 loops)
Day 6: Rest
Day 7: Qv2 Title One Loop
Day 8: Rest

and so on.

ZP Listening days are on days 1, 5, 9, 13, 17 and 21. The Qv2 listening days are days 3, 7, 11, 15 and 19.

The number of Qv2 loops is 5. For the number of loops for the ZP title here it is 6 minimum or 12 maximum.

The total number of loops in this stack is 11 minimum or 17 maximum.

 

Two ZP Titles & One Qv2 Title

Day 1: ZP Title #1 One Loop, ZP Title #2 One Loop
Day 2: Rest
Day 3: Qv2 Title One Loop
Day 4: Rest
Day 5: ZP Title #1 One Loop, ZP Title #2 One Loop
Day 6: Rest
Day 7: Qv2 Title One Loop
Day 8: Rest

and so on.

ZP Listening days are on days 1, 5, 9, 13, 17 and 21. The Qv2 listening days are days 3, 7, 11, 15 and 19.

In the 21 day period ZP Title #1 gets 6 loops, ZP Title #2 gets 6 loops and the Qv2 Title gets 5 loops. A total of 17 loops.

 

Two Qv2 & One ZP Title

Day 1: ZP Title
Day 2: Rest
Day 3: Qv2 Title #1 x1, Qv2 Title #2 x1
Day 4: Rest
Day 5: ZP Title
Day 6: Rest
Day 7: Qv2 Title #1 x1, Qv2 Title #2 x1
Day 8: Rest

and so on.

ZP Listening days are on days 1, 5, 9, 13, 17 and 21. The Qv2 listening days are days 3, 7, 11, 15 and 19.

In the 21 day period ZP Title gets 6 loops, Qv2 Title #1 gets 5 loops and the Qv2 Title #2 gets 5 loops. A total of 16 loops.

 

All 3 Are ZP Titles

Day 1: ZP Title #1 (x1), ZP Title #2 (x1)
Day 2: Rest
Day 3: ZP Title #3 (x1)
Day 4: Rest
Day 5: ZP Title #1 (x1), ZP Title #2 (x1)
Day 6: Rest
Day 7: ZP Title #3 (x1)
Day 8: Rest

and so on

Listening days 1, 5, 9, 13, 17 and 21 are for ZP Titles #1 and #2. The third title is on days 3, 7, 11, 15 and 19.

ZP Titles #1 and #2 would have 6 loops each and ZP title #3 would have 5 loops. This is a total of 17 loops.

 

Summary Table Of ZP Listening Schedules & Number Of Loops


Here is a summary table of the six listening schedules for Zero Point. Listening days are on Days 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19 and 21.

For the stacks that have both ZP and QV2 titles the ZP days are days 1, 5, 9, 13, 17 and 21 and Qv2 days are days 3, 7, 11, 15 and 19.

 

Stack Total Loops Breakdown Of Loops Over 21 Days
Only One ZP Title 11 to 22 1 or 2 Loops For ZP Title On Each Listening Day
Two ZP Only 22 11 loops ZP Title #1
11 loops ZP Title #2
One ZP, One Qv2 11 to 17 6-12 Loops of ZP Title
5 Loops Qv2 Title
Two ZP, One Qv2 17 6 Loops ZP Title #1
6 Loops ZP Title #2
5 Loops Qv2 Title
One ZP, Two Qv2 16 6 Loops ZP Title
5 Loops Qv2 Title #1
5 Loops Qv2 Title #2
All 3 ZP 17 6 Loops ZP Title #1
6 Loops ZP Title #2
5 Loops ZP Title #3

 

You get the most loops over the 21 days running the two ZP only stack or the one ZP title at 2 loops on each listening day. Those who run 3 titles in the stack end up with the least amount of loops one a per title basis.

The one ZP title listening schedule at one loop is good for those starting out. If you run the single title at 2 loops a day then that listening schedule is one of the most ambitious ones out there in my view.

 

Experimental Patterns


Hard Gainer Pattern

I really don’t want to go in great detail here. This pattern looks insane as it is one loop in each of the 21 days. There are no rest days.

 

Reconciliation Reduction Patterns

These patterns have two rest days instead of one rest day between listening days. This reduces the number of loops in the 21 day cycle.

Listening days are now are Days 1, 4, 7, 10, 13, 16, 19. Days 20, 21, 22, 23 and 24 would be the 5 day washout period. There would be 7 listening days here.

For the recon reduction stacks that have both ZP and QV2 titles the ZP listening days are days 1, 7, 13 and 19 and Qv2 days are days 4, 10, 16.

To save space, I just include a summary table. I did not want to go through all the 6 cases again in detail.

 

Recon Reduction Stack Total Loops Breakdown Of Loops
Only One ZP Title 7 to 14 1 or 2 Loops For ZP Title On Each Listening Day
Two ZP Only 14 7 loops ZP Title #1
7 loops ZP Title #2
One ZP, One Qv2 7 to 11 4-8 Loops of ZP Title
3 Loops Qv2 Title
Two ZP, One Qv2 11 4 Loops ZP Title #1
4 Loops ZP Title #2
3 Loops Qv2 Title
One ZP, Two Qv2 10 4 Loops ZP Title
3 Loops Qv2 Title #1
3 Loops Qv2 Title #2
All 3 ZP 11 4 Loops ZP Title #1
4 Loops ZP Title #2
3 Loops ZP Title #3
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Cool chart. Thanks for taking the time to make it.

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You pretty much need the tables. I put the detailed stuff if people want the math & logic.

are the 21 day mark of washouts a must? or is it a thing if you wanna do it or not?

The ZP Listening Instructions seem to indicate the washout is mandatory.

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The washout is a function of making ZP subs work at their max potential, rather than being a technique employed to counter recon.

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Pretty amazing stuff! You can also have a “core” and “booster” ZP stack.

let’s say a wealth-focused user is listening to two titles: Emperor and Paragon.

He has health concerns, but not major ones, so he wants to play a bit of Paragon but focus mainly on Emperor.

He could listen to a stack where on days 1,5,9 etc. he listens to two loops of Emeperor… but on days 3, 7, 11, etc. he listens to one loop of Paragon.

Making the total count of Emperor twice the amount of Paragon.

The variations are infinite but this is worth noting.

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That looks like the listening schedule for the One ZP + One Qv2 Stack except it is Emperor & Paragon both in ZP. A little bit outside the listening guidelines. I would think that it’d be another experimental pattern. It does looks safer than the hard gainer pattern.

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Totally agree! It would be a good experimental pattern.

Although just thinking from first principles here, the reason why ZP is maxed out at 3 titles is because the effect on the subconscious is greater, and so more integration-time per exposure of the sub is ideal for a fully accepted script.

Running 2 loops of the main title once every 4 days is great exposure time, with plenty of integration.

Actually an interesting point would be that the “booster” should be light, not dense.

But yes put it on experimental.

I actually consider this to be a reduced recon pattern, if done right!

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I have another alternative schedule. A few more rest days added.

Experimental Pattern - Two Title ZP Stack With Three Listening Days Per Week

Week One [Days 1 to 7]

Day 1: ZP Title #1 Loop, ZP Title #2 Loop
Day 2: Rest
Day 3: ZP Title #1 Loop, ZP Title #2 Loop
Day 4: Rest
Day 5: ZP Title #1 Loop, ZP Title #2 Loop
Day 6: Rest
Day 7: Rest

 

Week Two [Days 8 - 14]

Day 8: ZP Title #1 Loop, ZP Title #2 Loop
Day 9: Rest
Day 10: ZP Title #1 Loop, ZP Title #2 Loop
Day 11: Rest
Day 12: ZP Title #1 Loop, ZP Title #2 Loop
Day 13: Rest
Day 14: Rest

 

Week Three [Days 15 - 21]

Day 15: ZP Title #1 Loop, ZP Title #2 Loop
Day 16: Rest
Day 17: ZP Title #1 Loop, ZP Title #2 Loop
Day 18: Rest
Day 19: ZP Title #1 Loop, ZP Title #2 Loop
Day 20: Rest
Day 21: Rest

 

From this schedule you get 9 loops of each of the two ZP titles. The total number of loops in this 21 day cycle is 18. This alternative schedule is in between the listening guidelines and the recon reduction pattern schedule for the 2 ZP title stack.

As days 20 and 21 are rest days, maybe you could include those two days in the 5 day washout??? It would be days 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 as the washout days. If not, a full week washout in Days 20 to 26 is good too.

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Has anyone tried the old listening schedule taking weekend or 3 days off?

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Usually I take 3 days off , I can’t take more because I am getting excited to play my stack

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If I listen to 15mins, I take two days off. If listen to 3/5/7, one day off.

I meant whether anyone listened for a week without break days and then taking the weekend off?

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I tried .

Concluded it’s not worth it. The baseline was going downward .

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I do not want to imagine the recon that comes with a 5 days on 2 days off schedule with ZP subs.

I didn’t try this with zp , that one day rest is worth it for me

Thanks! :slight_smile:

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Do you guys just listen to the masked ZP version only or ultrasound as well the same day?

I don’t but you can give it a shot and report back your results.