I would still say TSB for me is the driver, especially as I haven’t spent a ton of time with true sell, or rich, and it’s definitely honed my killer instinct. TWTP has added a lot to it however, and my sales game feels more “complete” with it in my stack.
Definitely, although I don’t think EmpD has quite the same strength of frame. Definitely SB though.
I’m pretty new with this, but there’s definitely more enjoyment in my work/ conversation, increased clarity of mind and being present on call, and as I’m expierencing less negative emotions, I actually find I have more energy and productivity.
Haven’t noticed a drop off in close percentage, however lead volume is slow this week, but that’s as expected over the holidays so don’t have as much data to go off of.
Romantically, not sure, in a relationship and taking this winter for more of a grind season so I haven’t been going out as much. Noticed we were fighting quite a bit more initially, as I would get upset and hold strong boundaries on anything that felt manipulative or like it was stepping in my power; but that aspect seemed to soothe out.
There is virtually no romance scripting though, so I’d recommend adding something else in if that was important. Would imagine it stacks well with most of the romance titles, especially WB though.
Does it just help you not get taken advantage of or lose your power, are you seeing TWTP contribute to sales and/or your overall minset on career? You mentioned it has your sales game feel more complete. Are you reading people better or saying the right thing more often?
or how/where do you see TWTP contribute to your goals?
I’m sure it helps, but really not interested what so ever in the aspects of avoiding being manipulated/taken advantage of. Has never really been an issue in my personal life, and my current work circumstances are very chill. I think I was more referring to me setting stronger boundaries, similar to Emperor, and was getting upset when those boundaries were not complied with, but I feel like that was more of a lesson of sorts then anything.
I’m using it purely for sales and career development. Definitely helps with reading people better, and knowing what people mean/subcomminicate rather then just listening to what they say. With this, you are better able to understand pain/desire/goals, and use that to better influence.
It also helps with having a stronger frame, authority, and status, similar to Emperor, but without coming in with brute force and dominance that can sometimes negatively effect the sale. Overall, I would say it gives you an ability to read people and understand them better, in turn giving you a stronger ability to influence.
It also definitely helps with knowing what to say and what not to say. I talk less, they talk more, and reveal more, because of the significantly deeper understanding of the prospect. It’s a more more custom tailored approached to selling. Like I can show up as who the prospect needs me to be for them to buy. Sometimes that empathetic and caring, sometimes that’s concerned and authoritative.
The drive/ambition for power has also been beneficial with productivity, as well as as drive to close the deal on call. I have never really had a “will to power” or strong desire to attain it, as I’ve always been well liked, done well with women, etc. I am also not driven much by money, more so by status. I feel like the will to power has helped me connect with that inner drive/why, power is important for me, which is to have more authority, status, influence, and improve my ability to get what I desire.
Look at people like Andrew Tate, and the ungodly work ethic, drive, and success. What’s behind this, is not a desire for money or women, but power and status.
Love this response, thanks. Very compelling case to run it.
I also have found Mind’s Eye to be quite an addition and it’s completely altered the way certain sales come in. I want to test TWTP and either replace Mind’s Eye with it or create a custom with both
(Mind’s Eye can have very state alerting effect for me that’s hyper-cerebral-at least in my stack or at this juncture-don’t love it. Khan negates it but my TSB and ASBR do not. I have a custom with Synergy: Breath of Storms but it still shines through)
Conscious vent here, I am really curious if the NSE style of scripting may work more effectively for different topics, as well as different people. From what I understand, it’s based on the premise of unfolding and manifesting experiences to reshape your believes. I think this is totally viable with things like spirituality, where success demands more of a letting go process.
However, as much as I wished that was the case with wealth, I think for 99% of people, and the majority of people on this forum, monetary success and getting to 6-7 figures is much more dependent on healthy financial habits, MASSIVE MASSIVE action, and skill acquisition.
While I still get results with NSE, there is a stark contrast between my motivation and hyper obsession to succeed when comparing to my experience with the older versions/titles. Some of this may be due to the subtleness/snowball effect, but I recall my thoughts, feelings, and actions being entirely different when running HOM and EOG zp2 that I haven’t quite felt on the newer wealth titles. I believe how we feel, determines our actions, and in my expierience I simply don’t “feel” the newer wealth titles for some reason as they are much less in your face.
I’m 100% on board with this and question this a lot
My biggest shift in financial success came from EOG and my custom without NWE.
I’ve maintained -until recently success with NWE subs-but it’s shown no significant increase in income outside of continued progress in subs and my experience of wealth and success is significantly gone done since last year in how I ‘felt’ on previous wealth titles. I felt massively transformed and a new platform of wealth on EOG and HOM in previous version.
My deeper understand of myself and what I want out of life/wealth has changed on NWE and ASBR but in a perpetually questioning and unresolved way for the most part. That leads to no concrete improvement as of yet.
My first month introducing NWE caused a boost in transformation that supported growth and manifestation but it teetered off in a month.
I feel much more ‘annoyingly’ on the ride then that insane -causing -at the source effect of wealth -that without it. I feel more where I am at is the new norm- not the insane gratitude or power of where I was at nor the ambition outside of a comparison and ‘should’ then before
Results wise it’s fairly even and I have questioned if it’s more of a natural thing, snowball effect.
But overall I feel and relate to myself consciously in a less powerful way around money.
Again this could be just being accustomed to my level of achievement/success.
Perhaps massive ongoing recon-or deeper recon
In fact it’s like money has become -so abstracted I feel nothing around it except what it could conceptually or practically bring or my visceral frustration and comparison as it as a marker or merit/value
Where as pre-NWE every pay check felt progress and a source of gratitude. I felt into my future success coming. Now I am more and more in the space of ‘survival’ at a higher level- and frustration at where I can no longer evolve either in the work I am at now or larger outside of it.
In recent months I’ve simply cared less about performance and work, and engagement and put focus on other things.
I also have a different standard and picture now so the bar is higher
I’ve wondered if this is just different subs- and I have run NWE with EOG and HOM custom and do feel similarly overall it’s less of a reality warp and more of a subtle trickle. The advantage is the recon CAN be less harsh not always, but it can also be much deeper- and more circuitous. I’ve waited quite a while before commenting on this.
I am very impressed with subs contribution to my progress and goals including wealth subs but NWE specifically I am less clear on.
I’m in a not-very clear space currently given my frustration with this week but wanted to comment on my experience in this moment as best I could
Definitely strange, as even with status subs and TWTP, I feel like I’m having these huge breakthroughs internally, socially, and how I relate to the world and others, just haven’t had that same reality bending effects with wealth.
That is a good point though with the different titles, as EOG and HOM are still the titles that give me that tunnel vision and focus on wealth, and ability to work endless hours.
I was in HEAVY recon yesterday when I wrote that lol so was not thinking through clearly but it still has truth/merit in my experience
I still see much stronger social romantic breakthroughs than I do with wealth, in terms of NSE or internal revelations, but I’m also limiting my avenues to just sales, and have tapped out that domain. I may see stronger effects by trying and doing new things as well.
I think a big deal is the titles, but I would also keep in mind that neither EoG, or HoM has been updated with NSE (yet). That leaves ASBR, Noveau-R and Emperor as the financial subs that have NWE (excluding customs) but they also include much other scripting as well.
How long did you guys run the same subs in your stack that dealt with these topics without switching? I’ve had similar thoughts, but I also haven’t stuck to heavy-hitting wealth subs for longer than 3 cycles without breaks/swapping.
We’ll see, I assume with AoH being a skill-based title, EoG will also have more skill-elements (since AoH was derived from EoG in some manner), so you might be right @Niles
Finally noticing that drive to become R.I.C.H. Not sure where it went for awhile lol, but starting to notice that wealth motivation really coming back; thinking about exactly what I need to do this year to hit my wealth goals, and actually excited for my sales calls. Part of this is probably the sales success I’ve had this month.
Was just thinking, that no matter what I’m going to be spending the majority of my time working, so I might as well get myself paid for it. The other big shift, was planning to KEEP a lot of the money I earn this year, rather then spend it on useless shit and partying liol.
Got a close and a good workout in to start the day. Couple more calls on the calendar today before rolling into the holiday week which should be pretty slow. So far, pretty strong first month here; closing percentage still at 38%.
This year, along with my wealth goals, I want to really start prioritizing my health and fitness again. While I certainly haven’t neglected it, I have been skating by. After about 15 years of lifting consistently, I’ve built up a pretty solid physique and maintaining it, is almost too easy, so I started to loose some of the drive and passion I’ve had for fitness and overall just being active. Looking back though, sports/lifting, and physical activity has been one of the things I’m most passionate about, and this year I want to bring that passion back. Going to be cutting way back on drinking and going out this year. Pro tip, drinking in my opinion is the biggest culprits of people not having the body/health that they desire. Also plan to get outside more this year; hiking, snowboarding, rafting, and also including more cardio, and getting back into muay thai. Building discipline and excellence, through physical excellence will be a huge emphasis. It’s also about the only thing that keeps my add ass in check and gives me an execuse to go out less, which will help with my financial goals.
Did a loop of LoS last night, as I finally have an execuse to do so now that I’m selling fitness it makes sense in the stack. Had one of the best workouts in years, totally forgot how great the physical/health subs are. Used to run Spartan quite a bit back in the day, and I honestly feel it still conntributed to a lot of the muscle mass I have today. Just feels amazing to be able to push yourself to that next level, and the added energy and vitality is great for work+ mental focus and clarity. Ideally, I’ll be runningn spartan along side TWTP and TSB or EOG, but startign with LoS as I feel it’ll be a bit less disruptive for my work.
Power of sacrifice (Would be beneficial for my performance and sacrificing bad habits, but also for my long term wealth goals and making better decisions
The Feedback loop (Results enhancing, reinforcing the right habits on call)
Update on this cycle;
Had a really strong month considering the lower volume over the holidays. TSB has really started to shine, and TWTP is becoming one of my favorite subs, both socially and professionly. Defientley a lot loss emphasis on romance and have noticed the lack of it, but for me that’s a good thing as I’m easily distracted by my libido lol.
With low call volume this past week, I did a little experimenting with LoS as well as Spartan. Was running Spartan mainly to see how it would improve my snowboarding, and definitely noticed the difference. Was able to do runs that would normally be way out of my comfort zone, and the increased recovery has been pretty incredible, took some pretty gnarly falls and today woke up like it didn’t even happen. LoS is doing it’s thing as well, and feeling much more confident in my apperance this week, have gotten a lot of compliments from clients on looks/physique, which is actually pretty beneficial when selling fitness. LoS will be a lock as my 3rd title, and will be incorporating Spartan throughout the winter for snowboarding days as well. Most likely will build a Spartan/LoS custom, potentially adding Limitless there once school starts.
.