I have read that book. didn’t really get much out of it coming from Neville, Dispenza, Lipton etc
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Not much of a conflict here, just an incomplete picture. Boils down to how much input the subconscious mind can take, and how much it requires to begin creating consistent and noticeable change.
Affirmations aren’t exactly useless, if there is enough repetition as in your second example. But they are horribly inefficient and take a long time. They are often badly made, have to be repeated consciously which puts a natural limit on the speed of input and are consciously made hence don’t have the same impact as something that one doesn’t know.
One is also unable to do anything more than basic affirmations, which severely limits how far one can take it technology wise in comparison to properly made subliminals, which can be taken extremely far.
All of this combined results in a lot of time necessary to be invested in order to put any sort of dent into the subconscious processing queue.
A basic subliminal already alleviates some of these issues. A properly made one has none of these, and can easily fill out the subconscious processing queue - hence why reconciliation and overload are things that we have to deal with.
But, the changes and results are much more predictable, rapid, and easier to achieve, as there is more than enough material to work with.
This is also why when we are asked on this topic, we usually say go ahead, but it’s not going to matter much. If you have a full bucket of water and add a tablespoon of water, not much is changing. Same with combining subliminal input and affirmations - affirmations need a lot of work to make a dent even without all the subliminal input, adding them isn’t really going to be that worthwhile.
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How helpful would speaking affirmations be in giving conscious guidance to the subliminals you are running if they align with certain goals within it, or to personalize it?
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From my experience, i personify the subs in my mind and say this directly to them: “i want to achieve …”
And then i go on with my days as usual.
This has consistently been enough to set the conscious guidance & help with the changes/manifestations.
You don’t have to “personify”, that’s just the method that i’m most comfortable with.
What’s important is to make it clear to yourself about what you want.
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They’re both good. I started listening to subs without any goals at all and then when I did saw success even on small ones I keep on recalling them. With gratification and always thankful I gained more on the things I thought was impossible.
We have this free will, and this ‘will’ can stop anything from getting what we want and can pause our journey towards success. When we start doubting, blaming, anything negative hinders abundance coming into our life.
Mindful.Meditation.Affirmation.Gratitude
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I was on a Bob Proctor kick for a few months and saw some results with affirmations. Jumped over to Joe Dispenza after and learned some tidbits. I’ve been on Neville Goddard the past 6 months and have seen great results along with subs. Your conscience mind leads the subconscious. Keeping your process as simple as possible will probably help provide long term stability.
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It’d be easier to just take action. Courageous action is the easiest and fastest way to alter subconscious response. When I use what we’re calling “speaking affirmations,” it’s generally to pump myself up to take action. Experience, which is derived from action, creates the framework for affirmations of any sort to work.
Rather than speaking affirmations, I’d maintain an offline journal to write your thoughts about the various topics you’re wanting to overcome. This way, you’re engaging in an organic exploration of your inner landscape rather than trying to force an outcome through the repetition of something you may not even believe in.
Instead, I’ll always advocate for something that allows you to go within the self, truly explore the landscape and then externalize it. Hence why journaling is so helpful, regardless of whether you’re using subliminal audio or not. You go within, explore the inner terrain and then externalize your findings through writing the journal (which is a form of artistic and creative expression).
The key to remember about journaling (in my opinion) is that you must treat the journal as sacred. By this, you must promise to yourself that no one else will ever read what is written down. This allows you to write freely, knowing no one will ever see what is written and then judge you. Essentially, you’re eliminating the self-critic that’s always causing you to question yourself.
Always analyze your writings for themes and issues that keep appearing. Explore why those themes and issues keep occurring and how you can overcome them. Then, take practical action.
And now, inner expectation and outer expression are unified and there was no need for trying to “convince” yourself that you can achieve, because now you understand how you can achieve and what kept you from success before.
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What about setting an intention to accept the scripting, would this be useful, and give concious consent to the sub with how the free will scripting operates?
Or choosing to listen is your consent?
Does it all happen at the subconscious level?
Dr. Joe Dispenza and Bob Proctor both have really interesting perspectives on reprogramming the subconscious mind, and while they approach it differently, I don’t think their views completely contradict each other.
Dr. Joe Dispenza talks a lot about how important it is to create a heightened emotional state through visualization and feeling. He says affirmations don’t work if you’re just repeating words without any emotional connection. For him, the key is to feel like the desired outcome is already true in the present moment because that’s what makes an impact on the subconscious.
Bob Proctor, on the other hand, teaches the power of repetition when it comes to changing paradigms (basically the same as reprogramming the subconscious). He says repetition is about exposing yourself to a new idea over and over again. He’s also really clear that affirmations should be repeated consistently and with belief and emotion for them to actually work.
What’s interesting is that both of them actually focus on the emotional aspect. Dr. Joe Dispenza critiques affirmations when they’re done robotically without feeling, and Bob Proctor points out that repetition has to involve belief and emotion to be effective. So, they’re really not as contradictory as they seem. Repetition with deep emotional involvement bridges the gap between their teachings.
And as Neville Goddard has said, “the feeling is the secret.” So it all comes back to whatever gets you into that emotional state and works best for you. Notice the results you’re getting and adjust as needed.
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“Feeling is the secret” sounds good in theory but it hasn’t worked out in the real world for me so far.🤷
Everything takes practice.
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Maybe there’s a predominate feeling that needs to be addressed.
Same with the Neville Goddard. His teachings are the best to make real change. I would add what I learned from my mentor for anything to work subconsciously like affirmations, statements, or whatever everyone wants to call them, you have to be conscious of all your negative thoughts 100% of the day. For every negative thought that we have, we have to say a positive thought 3 times and visualize it. It can be a lot of work, but in time it is possible to be conscious all day with ease.
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You need to be conscious of your thoughts all day long. If your negative thoughts outweigh your positive thoughts all day long, then Neville Goddard’s teachings won’t work.
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Affirmations are like using pokemon cards to manifest.
Then theres various occult practices of various degrees that can be like a grenade launcher but that comes with its own dangers.
After you manifest tho once it loses its novelty it becomes meaningless as has been for me.
Now theres a search for higher paradigm which drr has helped with i will write more when i get to it.
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It definitely takes practice. I do intention setting which I have found to be very powerful as well.
Commenting on the original question…
There’s only one view — Whatever the thinker thinks, the prover proves.
If you think Bob Proctor is right, his system will work for you.
If you think Joe Dispenza is correct, his methods will work for you.
If you think Neville is the GOAT, his principles will work for you.
If you think rituals of prayers to Gods, Angels, or Demons, are the way to influence reality, that too will do it.
If you think that strategy, planning, persistence, pivoting, and collaboration is how the whole world gets things done, you will also find that to be correct in your life.
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The world is such a YES man… whatever you believe it just answers YES 
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Exactly this!! Love it.