Need some advice on adding Ascension, Commander or staying put

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#1

I do security for a living and one of the main areas I struggle in if not the number 1 area I struggle in when it comes to work is being assertive. I struggle with telling people they can’t do this, they can’t do that, they have to do things this way etc because these are the rules. I’m running Emperor Zp and Mogul Zp at the moment.
I know emperor is a massive sub so it’s going to take time to experience certain things that emperor is supposed to help you with.
In the Emperor Zp description there’s parts in the subliminal that addresses my issue such as

** Easily develop strong and assertive masculine body language and masculine voice

  • Easily develop assertive, strong masculine language skills and manner of speaking

    • Easily develop positive leadership skills, prompting those around you to follow your lead

Should I just stick with mogul Zp and Emperor Zp since at some point emperor will help me become assertive at work ? Or should I had a 3rd sub such as ascension, commander or something else to help me with becoming more assertive sooner rather than later ?

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#2

Add GLM or commander

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#3

would it be to much you think ? Like to much dominance ? I remember reading somewhere saint saying GM, primal and emperor would be to much dominance you think it would be fine with emperor, mogul and GM ?

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#4

Emperor + GLM might come off as too aggressive and could potentially cause issues (like other men shit testing you) and both @James and @SaintSovereign would confirm that for you.

now as for needing to command others, there are 2 routes you can take:

1- Commander
2- Chosen

both of these subs can help A LOT, but it depends ultimately on the way you want to assert.
do you want to assert with positivity, love and kindness? then Chosen.
do you want to assert with authority, aura and dominance? then Commander.

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#5

Well obviously you are suffering from lack of dominance here, because being brash and bold creates dominance
And also you don’t have primal

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#6

I don’t have chosen so that leaves Commander. As for the shit testing I’ve mentioned it on here in the past how when on Ascension mostly I noticed dudes crossing boundaries with me, or looking at me dirty, coughing or spitting next to me when walking by etc. That was on ascension solo or stacked with GM in the past.
I won’t make a impulse move and add Commander or like alpha male said add GM. I’ll think it through and make a decision. Right now emperor and mogul are working perfectly for me, I don’t want to potentially mess things up.

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#7

But I do have primal :wink:. I’ll think it through though and decide what to add or to just stay put

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#8

Yo!
Add primal instead of commander

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#9

wanna try something?
it could help you, and you won’t need to add anything extra.

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#10

Any reason why primal over ascension, commander, GM, etc ? Don’t get me wrong I absolutely love primal it’s one of my top 3 fav sub club subs ever. It’s done wonders for me when it comes to expressing my sexuality in a healthy way when running it, but I don’t recall it helping me when it comes to being assertive at work

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#11

I’m open :slightly_smiling_face:

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#12

It made me brash, bold and assertive
You simply lack the boldness to tell the guy to don’t do this
U add primal and u will tell him
I experienced this
Well commander is also good, use it and we’ll see

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#13

if i weren’t running 2 major subs in emperor and mogul I might just have added primal. My washout starts feb 21, I have time to really think which sub I’ll add in the next run. I’ll really consider primal as well

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#14

Try running emperor twice.

I’m not telling you to do EmpZP x2 + mogul ZP x1,
But just EmpZP twice.

It adds extra domination, however, you shouldn’t run anything extra on top of that.

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#15

So cut out mogul and just run emperor solo but 2 loops every other day ?

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#16

Yeppp

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#17

was that on ZP tech or Q/Qv2?

#18

This was on Q and I forgot what was before Q, I don’t recall running ascension qv2

#19

Honestly stick with Emperor ZP I am on cycle 2 or 3. Pretty sure 3. I have used it since it came out along with Mogul.

I have the right amount of dominance and developing a lot of leadership ability. I am more likely to assert my desires and am speaking up more than I used to when I don’t like something. My favorite part about Emperor is I do things I don’t want to do but need to get done before my anxiety even has a chance to stall me.

In subclub people get the best results when they develop a plan according to the guidelines and then stick to it until they achieve their desired results. There are a few outliers.

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#20

Sounds like good stuff. I know people manifest different areas first when it comes to these subs so waiting for the assertiveness/ dominance to kick in is definitely a option. I know it’s a massive sub so at some point I’ll experience it. I guess I gotta just be patient. Like anytime I ran ascension in the past the assertiveness manifested extremely quickly in me. I would say within a day or 2 of running it, I had to watch what I said because I lost my filter. Interesting how in emperor for me the assertiveness hasn’t kicked it yet but on ascension it was front and center. Each sub is really unique. I’m guessing there’s other area’s in emperor that are more a priority in my subconscious then.
At which cycle did you start to experience the dominance you would say ?