Ascension + Commander
Emperor is next level alpha, so you might need an immediate action plan.
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During the 5 day rest days after the second cycle and into the first days of the third cycle. It would spike then meow out at a new baseline, I don’t know if it’s dominance or confidence. The two are starting to blur in my mind.
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Seems like you answered your own question here…
But because of that “lost my filter” part, I recommend using Commander instead of Ascension.
Why?
Because the Commander will work to help you express your rising internal status and power (while helping you realize which behaviors increase and decrease your status) in a more constructive way than simply asserting your dominance over others.
Having to, or threatening to go hands-on is only a fraction of the job – I don’t know your situation and security details vary – so being able to communicate powerfully and effectively while maintaining your cool will take you further than beating your chest every time someone breaks the rules.
Not saying you do that, just trying to make a distinction between assertiveness and dominance.
While I ran Emperor I hardly ever had to assert myself. For one, people seemed a lot more intimidated, but more importantly, I felt a strong sense of idgaf so engaging with people that were annoying or acting out seemed like a waste of time if they weren’t directly engaging me – still does, so maybe that’s just my disposition.
There was only one guy that literally stopped in front of my path to test me. It didn’t go the way he thought 
All that to say, I’m not surprised that you don’t express the same outward assertiveness as you did with ascension.
Emperor’s keep their true power largely in reserve, expressed only when the Emperor deems it necessary. No King has to remind people he’s a King. Everyone just knows.
Can you elaborate a little here?
Imo, it’s a good sign that you didn’t immediately let the role go to your head, asserting your dominance all over the place, because I’ve seen guys become (tiny) tyrants…and it’s not a good look.
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Have you considered replacing Mogul with Ascended Mogul? Sounds like your stack, as you said, is working perfectly right now and you dont want to mess things up… just want to add a bit more assertiveness with Ascension. So adding in ascended mogul theoretically keeps things exactly the same, and just adds a bit more assertiveness.
Chosen + GLM would be such an interesting stack. @Invictus doesn’t that sound dope?
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Chosen + GLM + AM
Perfect combo
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When it comes to emperor zp and mogul zp working perfectly for me I’ll say this. I’m quite a lazy person and I lack ambition, drive, etc. I struggle with instant gratification. On emperor zp and mogul zp I have this urge constantly in me that I have to be productive. I have to be doing something to help me grow. That stack has helped me stop playing video games for several hours a day which I had been doing prior to running them. When I put a game on, I’ll play for an hour but while playing I don’t know how, but the subs make me not enjoy playing.
The subs also have me learning how to become more competent at my job, and what I need to do to become a mastery at it.
I wake up and have this urge in me to level up in life, I sleep and still have this feeling. Its the perfect kick in the ass stack for a lazy person like myself.
Also I been manifesting extra days for work from my other security job.
As for my job just a few examples where I need to be assertive is when, people try to get one over on you. They have to swipe their ID card going and coming. If they don’t swipe you have to let them know they didn’t and they can give you shit. Also when they bring visitors to the building you have to make passes for them. Sometimes the employees will swipe their ID card for their visitors and when you tell them you gotta make them a pass they give you shit how they are only going up for a few minutes etc.
these are just a few examples I have many more.
I struggle with tension and conflict so these situations definitely trigger me.
As for ascension, being a passive person it swung me to the opposite end which was a tyrant like you said or Elliot Hulse would say. Had I run Ascension for several months maybe I would have swung to the middle of passive and tyrant which is assertive.
I know when it comes to commander in particular I know it was built to compliment emperor so there shouldn’t be a issue. I just don’t want to mess up the productively and manifesting job opportunities like I have been doing by adding a 3rd sub. On my 2nd cycle I may add commander just to see, I’ll think about it
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I haven’t thought of running AM. I’ve mentioned it on here in the past that for me personally the assertiveness I felt on ascension, I never once felt on AM or even felt an once of it. Now maybe ZP changes that or maybe had I run AM for several months 4, or 5 etc the assertiveness might have kicked in. These are all options I’ll consider though
That does sound like a great masculinity stack that i definitely plan to run in the near future
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Wow end of a 2nd cycle is not bad, if I do end up not adding anything I wonder if I’ll experience the same thing
Nice, I have similar results (I’m also running Emperor ZP + Mogul ZP)
I’d add GLM with Emperor. I personally did that for a week and it was good,
there’s no such thing as too much dominance. Real dominance is about frame strength,
It’s not the tyrant/bully type of nonsense and none of that is alpha,
Emperor ZP hasn’t swung you into being a “tyrant” and it won’t. ZP is based off of congruence.
The previous versions of subs weren’t as congruence based
I was reading your past journals lol
You don’t have to worry about stuff like that on Emperor ZP or GLM,
and also
All of this “I’m getting shit tested” and “men see me as a threat” is a lack of congruence.
If you were congruent you wouldn’t even be thinking through that framework.
All of this
“he’s trying to outalpha me”
“did he just try to assert dominance on me?”
“look at this insecure guy over here trying to shit test me”
“this guy is trying to stare at me, let’s see if I can stare at him longer… because of course whoever looks away first is the beta”
is the epitome of what insecurity projected outwards and repressed masculinity looks and sounds like… a whole bunch of overthinking and complete cognitive “gaming” from a frame that has zero congruence.
This is what happens when you get conscious access to the psychology and concepts of how things work and trying to implement them consciously while at the same time the belief systems of your subconscious mind and inner you, don’t reflect it.
Congruence can be paradoxical in a sense because once you embody it, it’s very difficult to be that cognitive or conscious about it, you’re really just completely present and it’s automatic.
Your assertiveness has to come from who you are, it’s not something that you do
No it didnt.
That’s not real assertiveness and that’s why it was “tyranty”.
If the sub is just making you assertive on and off like an instant coffee, there is no depth to that… It’s all superficial. There is no real change in character.
That was fake incongruent assertiveness. You don’t just wake up and become assertive, and what that really is, is manipulation of external behaviour without changing the inner core you + subconscious beliefs.
previous versions of Khan also appear to have had this effect,
but anyway it seems like you’re doing fine, keep it up with Emperor ZP lol it’s one of my favorite subs
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What makes you think that?
on top of what I already explained,
he’s describing a state shift lol
It’s similar to how people say that drinking alcohol makes them more outgoing and confident in social situations.
He shouldn’t have lost his assertiveness when he stopped using Ascension. That means the change was superficial and had nothing to do with inner congruence, inner self or the actual changing of subconscious beliefs on a deep level.
There’s a difference between acting assertive and being assertive.
People that are assertive can’t just suddenly lose their ability to be assertive, because it’s an extension of who they are. Deep subconscious belief systems, identity, etc
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That’s an interesting idea. Thank you for elaborating.
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First of all, thank you for sharing all of this and being transparent about your situation in a public forum @Grimm1390
Now for a little more tough love beyond what @Skadoosh gave you…
This is great to realize and admit to oneself, to start.
Now…stop.
Stop telling yourself you are these things, or you’ll be right and there won’t be anything any sub can do to prove you wrong (but I’m just speaking from intuition and way out of my depth here as SC subs can maybe do just that given enough time).
I’m not as knowledgeable or as wise as some other folks on here to give you the explanation, but there’s a reason there’s a module in the Q store called “I AM”. Those statements aren’t to be taken lightly.
First of all, this is the literal job you signed up for, amigo. Rules weren’t created for the ones who follow along readily. 
Or maybe they were 
And most of these people ain’t trying to be your friend either (but some might).
Think of it as a game. Because it is.
Sometimes they win.
But when they don’t and you catch them, you get to hold them accountable.
That’s it.
Everyone knows how it goes…the ones that give you shit simply have a higher threshold for conflict to see if they can have their way.
Whoever has the stronger frame (and authoritative position), wins.
No chest beating necessary on your part. And it sounds like no going hands-on, ever (but you never know – I highly recommend some combative / martial arts training so you feel a little more comfortable in case violence is an issue…especially since you say you want mastery in this field).
Here’s an example response you might give to a testy employee who thinks they’re all that and a bag of chex mix sneaking in a visitor after you catch 'em (assuming they know the rules…because of course they do):
Testy Emp: “Ah, come on @Grimm1390 , we’re only going to be up there for like two minutes, dude. Don’t make this a big deal. It’s going to take longer to make that badge then for us to go up and come back down.”
Grimm: “Man, I hear you, Testy Emp. I don’t like making these temp badges either. I tell you what, let me call up to your department head and ask him if he’ll authorize this visitor of yours real quick. And if he accepts accountability for your guest not getting a badge, you’re golden.”
Now, I don’t know your exact protocols, but I hope you catch my drift here.
You could also say something like: “It doesn’t matter if it’s 2 minutes or 2 seconds, everyone needs to have a badge. You should know that at this point, Testy Emp.”
That’s a different tact. Again, it depends on context…and if you like Testy Emp 
The bottom line is: they give you shit because they need to be (re)trained. Either they train you and you adjust to their outbursts. Or you train them, and reign them in regardless of their outbursts.
This job could be the exact environment you could use for your personal growth in this area…as long as it’s healthy and not egoistic.
I don’t know much about Elliot Hulse beyond a few IG posts I’ve seen.
Last thing I’m gonna say about your role in security: you serve an important function.
Own it.
But don’t blow it out of proportion.
On the one hand, it’s about customer service and experience. So you should be welcoming, helpful, and always professional. Making people feel safe.
On the other hand, it’s about enforcement and (insert your other protocols). So you need to be able to use that other gear that’s already inside of you to drop The People’s Elbow on their candy asses if the situation calls for it, figuratively speaking of course…at least in your case 
Anyway, I look forward to seeing your progress in the months to come.
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All you guys have really dropped a-lot of great info which I greatly appreciate, I don’t even know where to begin.
You mentioned taking on martial arts etc and I find it funny because I’ve seen this recommended to people who are mr nice guy types. Legit getting into a fight or someone putting their hand on me or invading my space, I’m a short guy etc is part of the reason why I’m afraid of conflict getting into a fight.
You mentioned those who give me shit have a higher threshold for conflict. In order for me to start building a threshold I need to walk in and step into tension when situations at work call for me to stand up and speak up. Once I do it enough times, I’m guessing the feeling to avoid conflict and stay small won’t be as scary. It’s like in the past when I approach a girl regardless of the outcome after that first approach each approach after feels less scary. I’m guessing the same thing will happen once I step into tension at work.
I do follow and understand ur examples on how to handle building tenants responses or visitors who don’t want a pass. I need to do it in a emotionless way, be detached from my feelings. It will take time where I can be emotionless and say what I need to say. Right now I swing from passive to aggressive.
I’m hoping in time from running emperor and mogul zp I can drop this on them instead of the peoples elbow 
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Ahh you definitely read my old journals. Lol I remember writing stuff on here like that “he’s trying to outalpha me”
“did he just try to assert dominance on me?”
“look at this insecure guy over here trying to shit test me”
“this guy is trying to stare at me, let’s see if I can stare at him longer… because of course whoever looks away first is the beta”
I still think like this, but you writing it out makes me realize I probably think like that because I’m not secure in my masculinity. A man secure and grounded in his masculinity doesn’t think like this or if he does not to the extent how I think everything a man does next to me or to me is disrespectful or some slight that’s on purpose etc. I forgot the word for it if it’s called confirmation bias or something else ? But like people are a mirror so when I see people do this to me, I’m guessing subconsciously im like oh look see this is proof you are not a man etc
I’ve journaled on repressed masculinity and sexuality a lot and I couldn’t agree more man.
and bro you hit the nail on the end when it comes to repressed masculinity, me projecting is directly stemmed from that
Here are some book recommendations you didn’t ask for…
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Gonna order them today! Thanks. Verbal judo sounds very familiar, it must be popular like how to win friends and influence people