Which is why this is a pro service. Those who feel it’s too complicated have the regular titles and q store. It’s not either or.
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You‘re probably right. So how do you gauge if a user has enough clarity of goals led by a larger vision and enough disciplin to pursue these goals with structured and consistent action? Maybe one could do that. What would be the right metric? Should SC even try to do that?
I don’t think going by metrics is the correct way to go about things. Then you get into the territory of hierarchical goals and comparison which isn’t a fun game. And everyone has different experiences in life that greatly effects them.
Rather I think it’s more about capacity to understand and utilize these tools at an advanced level. Sure if someone has great goals, is taking action, and being disciplined that’s good. But if they don’t have the self awareness of what they’re building and go on a recon fueled drama parade on this forum, none of that was a reliable indicator. Which leads me to my next thing, just because someone doesn’t have a lot to show for the subs doesn’t mean they don’t have the capacity to experiment in a way that suits them and could potentially help them execute better where no matter of discipline or action could.
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I agree.
I want the ability to swap modules in my custom without having to purchase another custom
Quintessence Pro Service:
Level I, The Beginner, for someone who just discovered Subliminal Club:
I wonder if it could be overwhelming for the beginner. Such questions as: “Where do I start? How do I decide what to buy? How can I know when to get an advanced title? How and when do I make a custom without fucking it up?”
Recommendation 1: List possible titles for new customers, possibly including (but not limited to): Sanguine, Genesis, Sanguine: The Elixir, Ascension [or Ascension for women], Love Bomb for Humanity, Genesis: Mogul, Love Bomb, SSX, Limitless, QL, and PS.
Recommendation 2: Explicitly warn against using Artisan/Artisanal Line or Advanced titles, as well as Terminius and Terminius Squared.
Recommendation 2a: This warning could include titles that are likely to be advanced, yet extremely tempting such as KB, WB, Khan, and DR.
Recommendation 3: State specifically the warnings are not marketing or reverse psychology.
Recommendation 4: State specifically the warnings are based on real-world testing.
Recommendation 5: Cite possible consequences of failing to heed warnings such as specifically listing symptoms of reconciliation or overload.
Recommendation 6: Warn against the idea of “risking it” by listening to an Artisan/Artisanal Line or Advanced title.
Recommendation 7: Cite specific rationale for having designated products for new customers, and a separate designation for advanced users, including Artisan/Artisanal Line.
Recommendation 8: Cite criteria for “advanced user”, such as:
a “has had at least 6 months of listening to SC products as per current recommendation, which include {list current recommendations};”
b “able to recognize, monitor, and alleviate one’s reconciliation symptoms”;
c etc.
Recommendation 9: Explain the concept of presults and preconciliation.
Recommendation 10: Explain the rationale of presults and preconciliation.
Recommendation 11: Give potentially common scenarios with recommendations/timelines such as:
person climbing the corporate ladder (Ascension [or Ascension for women], Genesis: Mogul, etc,)
college student (Ascension [or Ascension for women], QL, Sanguine, Stark, Limitless, Chosen, etc.)
high school student (Ascension [or Ascension for women], QL, Limitless, etc.) (also list all titles with the age limit of 16+ year old)
business owner (Emperor, EB, Stark, ASBR, etc.)
cis-gender male over 18 years old wanting more dates (Ascension, SSX, PS, etc.)
spiritual person (Sage Immortal, Alchemist, RoS, etc.)
gay cis-gender male over 18 wanting more dates or better relationships (Ascension, HS, PS, SSX, WANTED, etc)
a person at a transition point in their life (Ascension [or Ascension for women], Genesis, Sanguine, Sanguine: The Elixir, etc.)
a person wanting healing for who-knows-what (Sanguine: The Elixir, Phoenix, Regeneration, etc.) (NOTE: add to it a guide for HOW to decide which one might be better to use) (NOTE: extra emphasis DR and Phoenix might be heavy on the reconciliation)
a man who is so nervous, that talking with any women is a chore (Sanguine, Ascension, etc.)
a person who is in the process of or has completed a divorce (Ascension [or Ascension for women], Sanguine: The Elixir, HS, Love Bomb, etc.)
This level might be addressed with a video, audio, or support article.
I’ll think about Level II.
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I asked AI.
If the “Quintessence Pro” service is aimed at advanced users but takes years of forum activity to qualify, here are alternative ways to make it more accessible while still ensuring it is exclusive and catered to serious users:
Alternative Qualification Methods
- Merit-Based Qualification:
Allow users to qualify by demonstrating significant results or testimonials from using Subliminal Club products.
Users could submit a detailed progress report or case study showcasing their journey and achievements.
- Goal Completion Milestones:
Create milestones tied to personal growth or subliminal usage. For example:
Completing a 6-month journal documenting results with a specific subliminal.
Achieving measurable progress in specific areas like career, health, or relationships.
- Usage Time-Based Access:
Grant access to users who have consistently used Subliminal Club products for a certain duration (e.g., 6-12 months of regular listening).
This encourages loyalty and consistent engagement with the subliminals.
- Paid Entry with Vetting:
Offer a paid qualification route where users can access “Quintessence Pro” after a vetting process to ensure they are genuinely committed and understand the subliminal process.
- Completion of a Training Program:
Develop an educational program or challenge for potential users. For instance:
A structured 30-day or 90-day challenge with specific subliminal combinations and tasks.
Participants who complete it and show results gain access.
- Recommendation System:
Allow current High Alchemists or Arch Alchemists to recommend users they believe are ready for “Quintessence Pro.” This maintains exclusivity but helps speed up the process for promising candidates.
- Elite Purchaser Tier:
Create an “Elite Purchaser” program where users who have invested significantly in Subliminal Club products qualify. This could be based on a cumulative purchase threshold (e.g., spending over $500).
- Custom Application Process:
Implement an application system where users describe:
Their journey with subliminals so far.
Their goals for using “Quintessence Pro.”
Why they believe they are ready for this advanced service.
The Subliminal Club team can then review applications and grant access to deserving candidates.
- Leaderboard System:
Introduce a points or badge system where users earn points for activities like:
Writing detailed product reviews.
Helping other community members with advice.
Completing subliminal challenges or experiments.
Users who earn enough points gain access to “Quintessence Pro.”
- Proficiency Test:
Offer a test or assessment that evaluates a user’s understanding of subliminals, mindset, and goals. Passing the test could serve as an alternate qualification.
Suggestions to Maintain Exclusivity
Hybrid Qualification: Combine multiple qualification paths (e.g., merit, usage time, and an application process) to ensure only serious and committed users qualify.
Tiered Access: Offer partial access to some features of “Quintessence Pro” for new qualifiers, with full access unlocked as they demonstrate further commitment or results.
Temporary Trials: Allow users to gain temporary access (e.g., 1-3 months) to prove they can benefit and handle advanced customization tools.
These methods would allow “Quintessence Pro” to remain exclusive while giving newer users opportunities to qualify faster through dedication, effort, and tangible results. Would you like me to elaborate on any of these options?
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In my mind, the easiest method is just find the people in the forum who have these 2 badges
Along with any of the other badges from Aspirant to arch alchemist. (So of they have all 3)
This could be the first layer of shortlisting to check, if they have contributed anything meaningful.
Next would obviously be amount of money spent over the years.
There are many in the forum who don’t share a lot due to privacy. But they would have spent a considerable sum over the years. What that sum is up to the founders?
Lastly would be for the newbies to have a chance. If they are able to showcase a level of maturity and understanding over the period of a 1-3 months. By actively journaling and showing the relevant attitude. Then a chance can be given based on request.
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How does one get high alchemist? I think for advanced titles a qualifier should be based on users sub past history of titles.
I ran advanced titles for a long while so of course want to continue down same path thats what interests me.
Ah it can be just spam which doesn’t really make it good model for whos able to run advanced title.
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This is interesting.
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We check the person’s post history before granting the title. It’s in the rules that the conversation has be meaningful.
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I dunno, a system based on likes isn’t that far off one based on popularity. There’s a risk you’d get little cliques forming that just automatically like each others posts. Or worse, a sudden rash of posts about outrageously successful events, whether true or not, just to gather lots of likes.
Not to mention there are many long term journals with hundreds of posts that are conscientiously maintained, but have few likes. It seems to me those are the members that have earned this, not the flashy ones who make a lot of noise just to get a lot of likes.
Edit: Just to add, I actually find the suggestion to be somewhat disturbing. The world is full of examples of privileged access, but this is a place which is dedicated, ultimately, to internal work. So to make extra access contingent on something as superficial as number of likes on posts just smells very wrong.
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Or you can just enter a support ticket explaining why you should be allowed to use Quintessence pro, then fire and saint decide whether or not to let you in
I feel like people are naturally just gonna enter support tickets asking to be let into quintessential pro anyway
If I can customize the badge logic, I can specify certain conditions to which a badge can be awarded. It doesn’t have to be based just upon likes. It can include other factors, including the addition of some kind of “helpful” tag, in which a person who demonstrates knowledge on proper subliminal use can be marked and add to it.
And I think there’s a difference between privilege, which is an unearned sense of superiority exhibited by people who are unqualified and one who has indeed earned their credentials. With some of the features we’re considering adding to Q-Pro, it probably wouldn’t be of any use to anyone who HASN’T used the titles for awhile in the first place. It’s not a replacement for the custom service, but rather a platform for the individuals who are using titles and taking A LOT of action and engaging in a lot of self-reflection.
For example, let’s say we added the ability to add experimental Zero Point Union scripts into your custom. If you haven’t gotten a feel of how Zero Point works, how can you articulate to us (or yourself) the differences between v2 and ZPU?
Or if we added a power slider, allowing you to proceed past even Terminus levels. We already know that people who shouldn’t do this, will do this anyway, and then blame the titles or us for anything out of the ordinary?
We’ve simply come to the conclusion that – while I hate the idea of gated access – it simply has to happen in some manner. The goal here is to figure out that middle ground. It’s not going to be completely open access, it’s not going to be completely closed access.
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Shit I don’t even have Good Reply and I’ve been here since Feb 2022 
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Divine timing : the ability to speed up the time it takes to to manifest larger thing
I would really like for the option to be able to swap out modules without having to purchae another custom for 99$.
Im counting on this and hopefully Quintessence Pro will have this feature
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