I was out for a walk and realized “oh I would actually be interested in Heartsong personally right now”
Ironically, I originally just made this thread because I wanted to enjoy the conversation and see everyone’s ideas, get the brainstorming going.
But now I realize that after my latin america backpacking trip, I shifted priorities from wanting to have sex to wanting to have a serious relationship.
That comes with a willingness to focus on less instant gratification. It comes with an acceptance that I’m going to have to say “no” to people that I think are “good” but not “amazing”
My mindset has switched since my priorities changed, I don’t think about whether or not I’m seducing the woman at all. I mainly ask myself whether or not I feel like I have to perform with her at all, or, specifically "does she make me laugh and smile authentically?"
If someone makes me laugh and smile authentically, and it feels like I enjoy hanging out with them no matter what our relationship status is or might be, then I want to keep spending time with them. On the flip side, there’s 3 different girls right now who I’m very physically and emotionally attracted to, and I could be trying to seduce, but I realize that they don’t make me laugh/smile, and that I’m TRYING to get them to like me rather than ENJOYING the fact that we like each other.
I would listen to heartsong because I don’t want to “Seduce Women” but I want to FIND the ideal woman that is worth stopping saying no to. My current mindset is “single until seduced” and I’m not doing any seducing. I ask myself, "what are HER intentions?"
(I resonate with Wanted Dream Boy’s seduction style immensely, which this has influenced, as it’s what I was listening to in latin america, and when I let myself receive energy instead of give energy, my results & satisfaction in dating skyrocketed while also feeling easier, freer, more connected, less chaotic, safer, and more relaxed. This mindset may be different for people with different archetypes)
That might be right or wrong, I don’t know, I’m just documenting the current state.
I am at the point where I’m ready for the ideal relationship, but, I wouldn’t want a title to immediately manifest one because I feel like I’m patient and it’s not even exactly the right time right now. I’m about to move to Asia, I’d like to spend some time learning to be truly happy single first so that I’m not filling a void but I’m bringing someone into an incredible life, I want to discover and explore my hobbies and purpose more,
If you gave me my “soulmate” today, I would turn her down. I want her to be in a different city, in a different country entirely, as I don’t want to settle down or live in the city I currently live in.
So for me, a title that would help me manifest my ideal partner wouldn’t actually help me manifest my ideal partner, it would help me manifest the life that would allow me to feel like I’m ready for her.
There’s a paradox. It’s not just that I’m “ready” for the right relationship, I’m also ready to stop saying yes to the wrong ones, and I’ve traded valuing intensity for valuing stability and values.
I’m blessed to be able to say that, personally, this doesn’t come from a place of scarcity. This comes from a place of true abundance. It comes from having truly been able to be with women whenever I want and realizing that once the belief that I can be with ANYONE is in place, being with ANYONE doesn’t satisfy me nearly as much as FULLY being with ONE person who knows me to the depths of my soul, and that I feel love, safety, consistency, connection, and trust with.
I do not care whether that person and I are monogamous/polyamorous once I find that person, honestly. That’s just something for us to talk about in conscious communication once we’re in a relationship. I’m going in with the mindset that I’m looking for ONE person, and, from there, I’m willing to talk about whatever relationship style that would work best for us both, with the understanding that if we’re both not 100% on board with something, it’s not worth doing. I value the person more than the relationship structure now, whereas in the past, I wasn’t truly ready to go 100% with someone, so I wanted to be polyamorous. I wanted to have other options. I loved love and loved loving people so much, which is noble, and I admire my own lack of jealousy, but the shadow within that was I had a fear of monogamy that made me afraid of ever just being with ONE person to the exclusion of all others, mainly due to fears that I’d be accused of cheating, put myself in a position where I could be controlled/manipulated, or find someone who i was loyal to and who wasn’t loyal to me. I have fears and traumas from past relationships that make me afraid of true commitment, and those fears still exist, I haven’t washed myself clean of them all, I’ve only acknowledged them, done the best that I can to work on them on my own, and committed to being honest about them and attempt to work through them while I’m in my next relationship, and before then.
The way I interact with women now is very non-seductive but very connected. I build friendships with women. I don’t sexualize interactions. When the sexual/emotional energy is mutually felt, I have no problem capitalizing on it and growing it. But I never stretch or reach. There’s a girl who likes me, and I like her, but I know deep down it wouldn’t really work out between us, due to value differences, because she likes me and i like her but I don’t really think she would appreciate the deepest parts of me in the way that I want them to be appreciated, and because of logistical issues with me wanting to move. So… rather than ghost her, or try and sexualize it at the risk of losing it, or feeling like I still need to “win her affection” in some twisted sense of testing to see whether or not I’m likeable, I simply am building a friendship with her, spending some 1-1 time with her but mainly introducing her to my friends… and in turn, she’s introducing me to HER friends, just like HER friend (who I met while running WDB and realized I had a great-but-platonic connection with) introduced me to her.
Scripting around knowing what I would need to do and what it would take to feel ready for that relationship would be helpful. Scripting that makes me selectively seductive would be helpful. Scripting that entrenches the values of commitment, love, trust, loyalty, honesty, connection, chemistry, would be valuable. Scripting that helps me understand what the deepest parts of myself that I want someone to appreciate are, and being able to see the deepest parts in someone else and know which parts I value in a partner the most, would be valuable.
Being able to run Heartsong as my only seduction sub would be valuable under the assumption that I’m willing to be patient and happy being single and alone until I find that person would be helpful. I don’t need heartsong to manifest someone NOW just like I don’t need Ecstasy Of Gold to manifest me a million dollars TODAY, but I want to know I’m walking down that path.
In a stack, I may run something like Emperor, Reforged, or Ascension as Title #1, to build every area of my life, and help me feel materially ready for a relationship. Or for title #1 I may run something like Primal or Wanted Dream Boy that would help me build my social/sexual/emotional skills, if I didn’t feel seductively capable (but I do, so that’s a moot point).
For Title #2, I would run Heartsong, with the goal of it helping me be ready for that person emotionally as much as materially, strike when I find the opportunity, have the patience and willingness to wait, and have the trust that that person will come, and that I don’t need to overperform or rush to make it happen.
For title #3, when I feel ready for it, I would combine Heartsong with Wanted Dream Boy when I felt like I wanted that person to come a lot sooner. THat’s a choice that’s available to all, at any time, but for me, I would like Heartsong much more if it WASNT heavily seduction/manifestation focused because then I could run it even if I wanted to be celibate for a while, even if I was in a relationship already, even if I was too hearbroken to meet someone. (Break up healing and self-love like in Love Bomb could be another reason to run Heartsong).
I would want HeartSong to make me feel like my melody is complete and beautiful in and of itself, but able to become even more beautiful through harmonization with someone else’s heartsong. I would want to find someone who’s heartsong is actually full, rich, complete, and beautiful. Not just someone who wants to listen to me perform, not someone who I just listen to their guitar solo all the time and drown out my own song, but someone I could sometimes share solo melodies with, and someone i could sometimes harmonize with to make music that’s more beautiful than either of us could make alone… but someone that I would also know that even one of us stopped playing, the melody would still be beautiful on its own.
I would want Heartsong to teach myself how to be in a relationship with myself, so that I know how to treat myself when I’m in a relationship. I would want heartsong to teach me how to love my hobbies, my self, my life, how to spend quality time with myself and close friends/families. I would want to treat someone else the way I would treat myself, given that I treat myself well. And I would want someone who treats me as well as I treat myself, and someone that likes that I take care of myself, and wants to hear me sing my solo-melody sometimes and doesn’t ALWAYS want to harmonize. Individuation AND togetherness are a recurring theme in this, forgive the stream of consciousness.
I would want, practically speaking, Heartsong to help me find answers on whether or not I want kids, because that is one of the most controversial parts of relationships, and it’s something you need to know up front. It’s not something that you can really “debate and discuss…”
If you want kids badly, and your partner doesn’t want kids at all, the only way you two can be together for the long term is if someone gives up on their dream.
It’s possible and beneficial to know your stance on kids in advance so that it can be part of the values system that you look for.
I’m currently an “open to but not attached to kids” person, and I look for people that are the same, or that are a yes, but I don’t immediately turn someone away if they say they’re a no, it just becomes a question mark for me to explore more, but it’s also a yellow flag, and I remind myself that i don’t truly know someone enough to love them or commit to them until I have at least a basic stance on their true, honest thoughts on having kids.
I’ve been in relationships where jealousy is a concern. Both me being jealous, and me causing jealousy. So trusting is one capacity to develop, but I think even more importantly and universally across relationships, the ABILITY TO BE TRUSTWORTHY is something that you can develop whether or not you’re in a relationship, and it’s something that’s valuable no matter what your relationship style is.
When you’re monogamous, you promise not to engage in sexual/emotional activity with other people, and you have to be trustworthy in that… but you make promises when you’re polyamorous too, you promise to make the other person feel valued, and follow shared agreements, and communicate, and… whatever rules you make, you still have to abide by them in order for the polyamory to feel safe.
for the last few days，I added HS to my stack and ran it three full loop。to my surprise，it was smooth…no up and down emotional roaster…last time I ran it，it was the Qv2 version，it was bad ，some deep feeling of emptiness surfaced up，I got annoyed by those feelings then dropped it。however，this version feel much like the Love Bomb turns it into a relationship version。I feel the self acceptance towards others and the possibility of being in a relationship（even though，I am not in the position to get into a relationship，still，I feel like I am open to it ）my body is not tightened up。I feel ok。and I asked myself，what do I expect from the future updated version 。first of all，I want it to honor the OG 。I understand，some people might need some help in these area of their lives，but，just don’t add too much unrelated stuffs，keep the skill set scripts，the healing scripts and anything that might be fancy but not quite aligned with the purpose of the title out，or at least ，keep them at the bare minimum。Secondly，years ago ，I tested Genesis for a while，one thing that I remember is the clear vision of your future life path ，the clear sense of direction and being able to envision what you want and dont want。I think those parts will really make a difference。having a crystal clear idea of what someone wants and be able to admit it to themselves。to envision it ，to act on it。that will make the manifestation process so much easier。also the authentic scripts in WDB might help too…if it is possible ，incorporate it into the new HS……for now these are what I could think of. 
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