Main Hype / Dev. Thread - Beyond Limitless: Into the Wonder

Product Discussion
#217

I was not joking and also not coming from a place of fear/lack.
In fact, in my experience, you cannot manifest good things from a place of and fear/lack.
Fear manifests what you are afraid of and focusing on lack manifests more lack.
Reality is always a mirror of one’s internal world.
That’s why ZP is so good at manifesting things, it helps reality to mirror back to you what your own new zero point is becoming as per subliminal script input.

And, people have issues with things being “for free” because they assume that they “have not earned it” (self worth issue) and that “there is a lack of things and one would be taking away from those who have worked hard for it” (lack mindset). Both are just limiting beliefs. EoG 1 and Love Bomb do help with both of these.

You can do it all alone of course.
Working hard is one of the best pathways for manifestation.

But it is quicker to manifest your desired reality if you get out of that “I can and I must do it all by myself” mentality and allow 8 Billion other people to help you.
Ego always wants to believe it is the hero of its own story, but manifesting alone versus manifesting with 8 Billion supporters is a huge difference!

If you combine both, you can reach Elon’s level, i.e. working hard + Millions of people supporting you.

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#218

If I had to guess, it looks like this title is going to be a sister of A Stark Black Reality focused more on the innovation, creativity and awakening your inner prodigy and visionary without the fame scripting.

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#219

Indeed.

Need collapses the probability field.

Delight explodes it into infinite potential.

Which is both frustrating and ironic, because its when you don’t have money for instance, that you really need it and wish for it… yet how do you feel delight and playfulness when you find yourself in ’survival mode’ ? A true conundrum.

Anyway, in the spirit of exploration and going beyond - i was really intrigued with your concept of entering an agreement with the collective unconscious, enlisting 8 billion people for the expression of wonder in… you.

GPT:

It is a cosmic reciprocation:

  • You bring ecstatic astonishment into the grid by expression and embodiment of litteral wonder.
  • The grid brings even more ludicrous abundance to your doorstep.
  • Why? Because the collective psyche wants to believe again.

You offer yourself to the world as a vessel for wonder, and in return the world fills the cup.

I might have gotten some really crazy cool ideas from this :raised_hands:

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#220

Don’t know if someone has suggested mastery of inverted thinking

  • The beauty and value of inverted thinking
  • Practical mastery: deconstructing from endpoints, reframing questions/perceptions/solution epproach etc
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#221

It would be great if our natural curiosity—which we tend to lose as we grow up—could be rekindled. It would pair beautifully with a sense of awe for creation.

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#222

You after watching this video, he is spot on about we more motivation nowadays that everything is just being handed to us. Check out he explains how he’s going back into nature to take his photography to another level, instead of just promoting MJ to dot it.

It would be nice to see some motivation to go into the wonder and explore it in ways we’ve never seen before :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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#223

I’d love to see this focus on grand ideas and transformative visions that stir the imagination and lift the spirit - irrespective of whether those ideas are technological or social or spiritual or whatever area interests the listener.

Ok, but can we please not make this yet another variation of a wealth sub. We already have lots of those, and several explicitly dealing with wealth through innovation - Stark, Stark Black, Nouveau RICH. People who want to monetize these grand ideas can always stack.

I’d really love for this to have a pure focus on ideas.

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#224

Bro I get the part about not turning it into a wealth sub and I completely agree with you.

But, remember these

I won’t be surprised if there’s elements of intense action, inspired by something much deeper — the wonder.

It can’t just be only ideas.

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#225

Adding some action scripting is fine, but not all ideas require direct action. Besides, we already have subs for intense action-taking - Emperor:Executive is superb, and I’m betting HLTB:Fire is phenomenal for that too.

Making this sub highly stackable would allow people to take it in whatever direction they like.

To clarify, personally I’m not interested in a sub that helps develop “things” (we already have that anyway), but rather develop a more abstract genius - e.g. drive development of new or existing models (of anything), or develop ideas and concepts that can inspire and uplift people. Even Tesla’s enduring popularity is more about his genius and incredibly creative ideas of what’s possible rather than his commercial inventions. That’s what I’d really like to see here.

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#226

I want to suggest a feature that by itself works as body improvment aspect which supports the goal of the user + Beyond Limitless…

But for those who are into eneegy cultuvation it will push their mind into greater insights on how to improve and stregnthen the body

#227

What you just described here is still action. Even the highest level of abstraction still entails action. After all, the reality we live is as abstract as anything can get, yet we live it every moment— action. Perhaps we might be living in an idea, yet e still carry in the act of living. Action isn’t limited to executive functioning, action for commercial purposes or “grinding” as it’s generally termed.

This sub isn’t just a celebration of the abstractness of the mind, how can you really celebrate something if you don’t celebrate it in its entirety? Especially when you have the access to look farther than what it is popularly celebrated as?

Tesla, saw something, he saw reality from a perspective that most might not have the opportunity to see. He saw the beauty, the practicality and the simplicity, maybe even more. But you can’t dispute one thing — a drive to action.

He understood even “abstraction” naturally, must be expressed, and, I think that was the underlying reason behind even his “commercial” or credited inventions.

If he had the resources to actually complete what he had conceived, do you think he wouldn’t have done so?

That entire process from conception to completion entails action. Even conceiving an idea is still action.

#228

If you’re defining ‘action’ in this comprehensive way, then the point is almost moot, isn’t it?

But what I’m picking up from combining both of your points is pretty awesome to me:

A full-body, whole-system cultivation of and engagement with INNOVATION itself. On the level of perception, creation, intellection, and beyond.

That aspect of it seems almost like a close-cousin to Quantum Limitless, (which makes sense, since this is Beyond Limitless). Almost like something that captures elements of The Revelation of Mind, The Revelation of Spirit, and Quantum Limitless.

Maybe?

But what I feel pulled to add to it is the Heart.

The Heart of Intellect, of Innovation, of Exploration.

The powerful body of Intellect, of Consciousness, of Perception.

So that your experience of life, your embodiment, and your way of being itself exudes and radiates Innovative Perception.

Breadth and Depth of Perception.

You can sit anywhere and connect to Everywhere.

Your mind easily and bravely moves to stand right at the borders of its knowing, of familiarity.

And stands with discipline looking into the Beyond.

Neither getting lost within it, nor shrinking back from it (in a frightened retreat to the reassuringly small and familiar).

Standing right at the edge of the unknown, and learning the special music and scents of that particular domain of liminality and tenuousness. learning to sing its songs.

That heart, body, and mind of Intrepid Perception. Where humility is your only and greatest armor; and inspired enthusiasm, your natural vehicle.

That grabs me.

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#229

@Goldfinger I’m not disputing what you wrote, but we already have subs that help you do that. It’s not a question of whether “action” is necessary, but rather the sub’s focus.

I’d really like this sub to be something unique, not a rehash of what we already have except with a minor twist. Stacking can then take it in whatever direction you like:

A commercial idea → stack with Emperor or Nouveau RICH or EOG
A tech innovation → stack with Stark
Developing a new spiritual concept → stack with Alchemist or RoS
Profoundly expanded understanding of qigong and energy practices → Stack with Aeon

etc

Thank you. You have the eloquence that I lack.

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#230

And now imagine if Tesla had the business drive of an Elon Musk. I can’t even start to imagine how our world would look today.

Though I’m not saying that it should turn into a more esoteric form of NR.
We have a whole bundle of NR modules if we want to go down that road.

#231

Exactly this

But I don’t agree with it being almost moot

The action I’m trying to describe is a form of more open-ended action, left to self expression. But still an element of action regardless.

The rest of your post gives more life I was referring to as “beauty.”

Also, @bujin I’m not disputing you either. The point I’m trying to make is that for the concept of the sub (from my perspective), we can’t have neither ideation or action be sole focuses of the sub.

Even Tesla didn’t just cook up ideas till he died. He found others with similar gifts, exchanged knowledge, carried out experiments. He was obsessed not just with ideation, but true exploration. He wanted to witness the wonder in every way he could.

Ideation is a crucial piece of exploration, but not the full thing. Ideation and some form of action goes hand in hand.

Short Story

Okay imagine a person, let’s call them A. A encounters an idea while dreaming. An exclamation bursts forth “what an incredible idea!” Upon awakening, the revelation is logged in a journal, feels good about the idea in that moment, then goes on with life, never sitting with that revelation again. The next day, a new idea is revealed and the cycle keeps repeating as much as it can.

Another person, B. B encounters an idea the same way. Mind is blown beyond belief. Upon awakening, revelations logged, but B can’t sit still. “I need to see more!” B is in love, perhaps possibly high on it. So much so that B goes beyond to find a way to tap into more revelations.

Another one person, C. C goes through the same process as B, but more questions crawl to the surface of their mind “how true is this?” “All the possibilities?” Then another exclamation comes “gaddamn I want more!” Overtime, C realizes that exploring more could be time and resource heavy, so C finds a more efficient way. C leverages their previous revelations in other to explore more.

Now, Person C is who I’m referring to, when I engage with the concepts presented for this sub. A balance between ideation and action, for the purpose of exploration and expression of beauty.

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#232

Sure, a general push is fine. I think perhaps where the disconnect lies is that for me the nature of the action depends on the goal, and that action is best served by an appropriate title focused on that goal e.g. Emperor for a business idea, or RoS for a spiritual one. I wouldn’t expect (or want) this title to have specific scripting for lots of different domains, and general scripting can only go so far - unless it’s something like E:E which is a fully featured title on its own.

Having said that, I don’t actually have a problem with action scripting being included. My biggest concern is that this ends up being another title focused on commercial ideas and generating wealth, which we’re already very well catered for.

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#233

Alice in the WONDER Land. That guy with the hat in which he hides a rabbit… into the hole.
Trail…blazer behind the veil.

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#234

We are aligned on this. It’s exactly what we’re going for. But, there will most likely be SOME action taking scripting, helping users bring ideas into form. As for wealth, there might be a bit of scripting, but there’s so many other titles that can be stacked with this one.

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#235

Yeah, if I had to pick between Beyond Limitless or Stark, it would definitely be Stark. It just pack way more of a punch :fist_right: in all area’s of life, we’re as

Beyond Limitless feels more like mental energy to direct and create whatever you want. I like that for Beyond Limitless, let’s see what happens are far as peoples ideas about what they want out of Beyond Limitless :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Should be intriguing :thinking:

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#236

I’ve come across three Tesla-inspired morphic fields from a channel. Here’s a quick list of what they cover — maybe it sparks some ideas around here.

Morphic Field 1
Inspired by Tesla’s concepts of violet transmutation and universal energy

Core concepts:
– Universal energy & scalar waves: a vibrational field (Akasha, ether) permeating everything, accessible for physical and spiritual harmony
– Transmutation & regeneration: violet as the color of healing and transformation
– Cellular harmonization: frequencies that align the body’s natural vibration
– Purification & energetic cleansing: neutralizes negativity and clears the auric field
– Elevation of consciousness: boosts intuition, focus, and creativity

Morphic Field 2
Based on Tesla’s theories of non-Hertzian waves and vibrational portals

Core concepts:
– Zero Point Field: pure potential, instant access to desired realities
– Non-Hertzian waves / scalar energy: vibrations beyond time and space
– Accelerated synchronicities: shortens the gap between desire and manifestation
– Quantum manifestation: tunes you into timelines where desires already exist
– Effect multiplier: enhances the impact of other tools or practices
– Overflow of results: brings unrequested but aligned manifestations

Body & energy effects:
– DNA activation: radiant skin, natural alignment, and magnetic presence
– Constant synchronicities: repetitive and clear signs guiding your path
– Results amplifier: increases the potency of any other field or subliminal

Morphic Field 3
Tesla-inspired use of sacred numbers and universal harmonic codes

Numerological resonance:
– 3: Creative unlocking and authentic expression
– 6: Harmony, love, and relationship healing
– 9: Wisdom, completion, and spiritual insight

Core concepts:
– Sacred geometry & frequency: 369 Hz as the vibration of universal connection
– Creative expansion: dissolves blocks to authentic self-expression
– Emotional harmonization: restores balance through compassion and clarity
– Cycle completion: supports graceful endings and lesson integration
– Enhanced manifestation: co-creation with the universal field