Has anyone found the libertine zp module to be not as effective as the ultima version ?.
I retested the libertine ultima custom made a long time ago. Its far more powerful or it seems then the zp version.
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You may also like PSU (w/Libertine) as others have found similar experiences.
I’ve never had much luck with auras.
I added back my T2 (v1) custom at 20min
which has aura of craving and approachability aura with earthshaker.
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How does that work?
You play the full 15 minute program and then play 5 minutes more?
Saint said you can play up to 20min with old T2. I wonder if it’s near equal to ZP or more. ZP is built off of T2 tech.
I think I ran it too much originally years ago and want to see if the abbreviated playtime hits. I wish I bought more. I have many Q customs but only one T2.
I’m more just curious about how it works.
Are you saying that it’s a Qv2 T2 custom (i.e., 60 minutes) and you play the first 20 minutes of it?
It’s a Qv1 T2 custom. Yes. I play first 20min. I’m not sure how much different Qv1 T2 is from Qv2 T2. Presumably, the primer is different in the modules.
I also wanted the strongest GLM module not core 
It’s in the custom.
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Interesting.
Do you run it (it being the Qv1 T2 custom) on its own day or on the same days as you run ZP customs? And are they playing nicely together so far?
Any opinions/observations about their relative merits?
Really?
Haven’t heard about that. But that’s not a program I’ve been running. So you prefer the GLM version that’s in your Qv1 custom. That’s interesting.
Guess I’m not allowed to say that.
It was deleted. I wasn’t recommending.
And I’ve played variations of these titles forever… years. Little to no recon.
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yeah, must be Story Teller, Emperor’s Voice and Harmonic Singularity are the fittest modules since the problem comes from tensions and anxiety inside of me which makes me to breath not properly and correctly (human’s speech is built on breath, first of all) rather than something physiological like tongue or something else.
thank you!
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I only wanted up to two cores in ZP customs as official recommendations. Even with Qv2 I felt three might be too many but I built them that way as the cores were to darn amazing. I just didn’t have room for GLM now that it’s core strength.
And maybe old T2 will really shine now at shorter playtime with ZP. That’s my hope.
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So, over time, you’re bound to see improvements since so many different programs actually help with these areas. From status programs to healing programs to physical shifting/transformation programs. Probably most of the programs you run are going to help in one way or another.
Relaxation and release of anxiety are actually part of many, many programs here. Some that you might not have even noticed. Be sure to look through the objectives (even of the programs you already own) to find some pleasant surprises.
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And auras are funny creatures. Everyone feels different ones work better. Libertine has had I believe four iterations now.
I’m not running any ZP auras right now. They aren’t in my ZPT2 customs.
Yes, that sounds awesome.
I’ve been running two ZP Terminus customs (One T and one T2) myself since May.
I have my old Qv2 Terminus2 sitting there waiting for me, but for now I’ve been choosing to rebuild in ZP. Just because it seems to work a lot more smoothly for me so far. But I like the idea of pulling out those old customs, because, due to focusing on Dragon Reborn in the past year, I never got to use them as much as I wanted.
Maybe at some point in the future.
I wonder how the subliminals will have further evolved by 2024. Boggles the mind.
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OMG. Subclub moves so fast! Every year they further their existing tech and bring more products to market. Who knows what else will even arrive later this year?
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Probably have a new version called phoenix build lol
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Whilst nearly all the new ZP upgrades work far better then QV2 there are still on or two products which dont work as well for me.
I just cannot understand why the zp libertine is so “weak” for some of us yet is more potent with previous versions ?.
@Deadpool i think you may have experienced the same if so can you highlight what exactly were your observations being around women ? when talking to them ?.
I have used Libertine Qv2 only once and with no success
You mean ultima ? there is no QV2 libertine. To be fair if you mean’t libertine ultima you would have to run it a few times rather then just once.
Correct, ultima. Also used it as zp last friday 3 minutes and also with any effect.
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There’s so many variables at play. Script, build, stack, playtime duration.
My understanding is titles like RICH and Libertine work best or are optimized with a complimentary title.