Main Disc. Thread - Zero Point Custom Build Questions

#1029

So this is the final product of my custom ZP

1 Ascended Mogul Core
2 Stark Core
Modules
3 Faith Unyielding
4 Financial Success Reality Shifter
5 Furious Ascent
6 Inner Gasoline
7 Instant Business Tactician
8 Jupiter
9 Machine: Action
10 Mastermind
11 Natural Winner
12 Organization Perfected
13 Potentiator
14 Productivity Unleashed
15 Sacred Words
16 Sanctuary
17 Sultan
18 Transcedental Connection
19 Tyrant
20 Ultimate Writer

I will be running this with my 2 other customs for the next 3 months and then remake this one into 2 customs

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#1031

What’s your opinion of this stack

(Cores and main focus)

  1. Emperor HOM
  2. elixer

(Healthy body “Mini paragon” )

  1. a sps organs
  2. health codex
  3. deep sleep

(Energetic health)

  1. energetic development xI
  2. metamorphosis

(Personal development modules “Mini Ascension”)

  1. carpe diem ascended
  2. virtue series hope
  3. courage reclaimed
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#1032

add paragon + Earthshaker - Sexuality and this goes crazy . you should get it

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#1033

Guardian of Life
Guardian of Life

Custom oriented to protecting LIFE (all that really matters; our family, our environment, and ourselves).

  1. Chosen: The Way of Nature Core
  2. Emperor: House of Medici Core
  3. Godlike Masculinity Core
  4. The Boundary
  5. Approachability Aura
  6. Transcendental Connection
  7. Soul Connection
  8. Seducer’s Gaze
  9. Enchanting Smile
  10. Yggdrasil
  11. Lifeblood Fable
  12. Chiron
  13. DEUS
  14. Atman
  15. Inner Gasoline
  16. Current Invoker
  17. Divine Will
  18. Dragon Tongue
  19. Tyrant
  20. Potentiator

Guys, what do you think about this custom? Any suggestions?

I’ve got a girlfriend (she is in Thailand and I’m in Poland, 3 years together), I’m unemployed, I’m working on my own online business, my father died a couple of months ago and I’m the head of the family now. There’s some lawsuit going on related to my father’s property; they want to take away from my family his property… my cousin and her husband want to do that…).

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#1034

@Sub.Zero So sorry for your loss. I’m still a little new to the game, but I think that it is a great custom.

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#1035

@Sub.Zero
I read the HoM core is big/heavy/complex so I would not choose two other cores with it but only one, but others are the experts and if I an wrong I am happy the learn from more experienced users why it is suitable

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Dragon Stage 1 + Paragon (Cycle 2)
#1036

Sorry about all this. I hope your new subliminal helps you.

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#1037

celebrity actress

  1. ultimate artist
  2. stark
  3. the spotlight
  4. glory seeker
  5. ethereal presence
  6. apollon
  7. carpe diem ascended
  8. jupiter
  9. deep sleep
  10. asclepius
  11. aura
  12. stress displacement
  13. dragon tongue
  14. true sell
  15. blue skies
  16. manipulus
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#1038

Any issue to overcome on the way to that goal like the lack of self-confidence, negative self-talk?

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#1039

I am + divine self-image?

#1040

+Natural Winner and Atman

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#1041

I just ordered a ZP Terminus Squared (w/Solace) custom I call The Ethereal Seducer:

CORE MODULES
Primal Seduction Core
Wanted Core

CORE-SUPPORTING MODULES
Approachability Aura
Gorgeous Manifestor
Dominion
Entranced
Furious Ascent

ETHEREAL STACK
Ethereal Presence
Starfilled Night
The Wonder
Transcendental Connection
The Flow

TRANQUILITY STACK
Inner Voice
Discordia Deliverance
Negative Energy Transmutation
Negativity Displacer
Negativity Shifter
Virtue Series: Hope

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#1042

You won’t be a black sheep no more with this bad boy.

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#1043

Thoughts?

1 Spartan Core
2 Emperor Fitness Stage 2 Core
Modules
3 APS: Arms
4 APS: Torso
5 Deep Sleep
6 Energetic Development XI
7 Extreme Exercise Motivation
8 Fusion Optimized
9 Health Codex
10 Pragya
11 Serum X
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#1044

@Sub.Zero I’m sorry for your loss - and I am sorry for having other family members that want to take away what belongs to your family… I hope It’ll work out in your favor!

I really like the idea of combining CWON and HOM. Two seemingly opposites sides, but if working together it would cover a lot of ground. Being loving and connected, but also allowing for ruthlessness and shrewdness when required. I think it could potentially be very powerful. And with ZP they would probably mesh together even more fluidly. The modules looks solid too (at least I think so :sweat_smile:)
CWON and HOM looks like a solid combination for that “Head of the Family” -responsibility.
Will you run PCC alongside it for the court-stuff?

Best of luck to you and your family! And if you get the custom, please let is know what it is like! :pray:

On a different note… @Malkuth… if I recall correctly you had plans for a “Custom Paragon” with all kinds of goodies in it right? Did you ever get it? If you did, have you written anything about it yet? :slight_smile:

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#1045

Since there is the option of doing one core and “no module” for the rest of the modules, does this mean that is an option to get the store program just as name embedded?

#1046

Yes, indeed, good @Athanaxos, I got it.

I’ve been playing it since 12 May. And I’m going to play it for one more play period. From 21 June to 11 July.

I call it POOLS of Healing : Thrive. (POOLS for short.) It’s a Terminus2 build ZP custom. It contains the following modules:

Paragon Complete
SPS: Endocrine System
SPS: Reproductive System
A/SPS: Organs
SPS: Respiratory System
SPS: Nervous System
SPS: Skeletal System
Health Codex
Fusion Optimized
Stop Porn and Masturbation
Inner Gasoline
Deep Sleep
A/SPS: Eyesight
SPS: Fat Burn
SPS: Muscular System
Diamond
Prevent Premature Ejaculation
Male Enhancement
SPS: Digestive System
SPS: Integumentary System

I made the unorthodox and possibly risky experiment to include a larger number of physical shifters in one custom.

So far, I’ve been experiencing interesting and good results. Also, if I get anything less than optimal nighttime sleeping hours, I find that I really want to take a nap during the afternoon. It’s hard for me to tell if that’s strictly from the custom, but it seems as plausible as anything else.

I’ve noticed more obvious results from SPS: Fat Burn and SPS: Muscular System. I guess that Deep Sleep has been pretty clear too. It’s possible that SPS: Endocrine System has been contributing to the muscular changes I’ve seen (via testosterone). And I’ve noticed a gradual Male Enhancement effect (though I’m not planning to change my field of employment any time soon). I’ve noticed benefits from SPS: Respiratory System.

I’ve made loose reflections in my journal. But what I’ve written above pretty much captures it.

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#1047

Thank you good @Malkuth for taking the time to answer. I very much appreciate it! :smiley:

How do you feel about your “energetics” or over all energy levels from having run POOLS? Given that you’ve gotten enough sleep, that is?

And what were your thoughts on omitting the Asclepius module when building it? :slight_smile:

Also some general noob questions (they have probably already been answered somewhere?):

  • In what situations would It be useful to go for ZPT or ZPTS instead of just plain ol’ powerful ZP? What’s the benefit?

  • Also - a simple ZP custom with AsC… can I still run that 2-3 times per week, or is it just once per week as per the AsC recommendations?

#1048

My energy felt more or less fine before, I think.

My motivation to exercise definitely has been experiencing definite up-ticks. Fusion Optimized and Inner Gasoline may have had something to do with that. But I’m running Dragon Reborn at the same time, and I think that may mask the effect at times.

This is not a noob question. It’s never truly been answered.

Terminus and Terminus2 are still to this day considered as experimental titles. We don’t have formalized use cases, situations, or criteria for recommending their use.

Some of my clearest Sub Club experiences have been with Terminus builds. But some people get stronger effects from running Standard ZP. It seems to be quite an individualized kind of thing.

Situations where Terminus might be recommended:

  1. You’ve run a particular program or custom for 6-9 months. It has worked great for you and you feel that you’ve ‘plateaued’. You want a stronger push. So you order the same program/custom in Terminus or Terminus2 build.

  2. You get the sense that there’s a kind of thickness to your responses to subliminals. You get results but they’re somewhat muted and seem to take a long time to develop, to mature, or to manifest. So you might try your luck with one of the Terminus builds, the greater narrative density may make a difference.

Those are two of the situations I can think of.

The standalone Ascension Chamber program is built in Terminus2.

But when you order a custom, you are the one who selects the build strength. So I suppose that when you order Ascension Chamber in Standard ZP build, it is built at the same standard ZP strength as all other modules. It, therefore, makes sense to follow the standard listening guidelines.

This one can be easily verified by submitting a support ticket.

EDIT: Oh, one other thing:

Right now, Ascension Chamber is the only available standalone program that is built in Terminus2. That means that it presents an opportunity to see how you might respond to this build strength. Play it and notice if you feel any different from when you’re running your other programs.

This is not a definitive test. It’s likely that Saint and Fire worked hard to make this title smoothly receivable by the average listener, since it’s intended for general use. It’s only 7 minutes long, for example.

It is, nevertheless, Terminus2, and so it’s worth attention if you’re curious about build strengths.

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#1049

I will not be building customs that are overly-dense or difficult to process,

but…

now that I’ve seen this I can’t unsee it.

For my planned Naissance custom (about 4 to 5 weeks away), Chosen: Way of Nature fits so well.

And for my planned Sapiens custom, Chosen is a very good fit.

But each one already has two very key program cores. For Naissance, it’s The Alchemist and Sage Immortal. For Sapiens, it’s Emperor and Quantum Limitless.

Basically non-negotiable.

Well we’ll see how the technology evolves in the future. Also, I figure that if I run these two customs for long enough, I may get to the point where I have internalized them and can modify them.

We shall see.

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