After two fantastic nights out (kinky prom, then sex club) I think I’ll do a deep dive on Dream Boys sexual potential. Yall sleeping on it. It isnt easy to use. It isnt an immediate hit. But it hits just as hard as Wanted’s
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I’ll stick with Khan/ WDB custom at 30sec
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This’ll give you a grounding, strong presence. Lean into it.
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How long before this clicked in?
Who else besides @heartmadeiron is seeing strong sexual potential, sexual encounters, on WDB?
Specifically in environments that involve breaking into sex, or creating new opportunities, rather than sex being expected or a given, or environments that are extremely kinky and pro-sex or with previous people where sex was already part of the equation.
In my time on it, a month previously- and as part of my stack again heavily in April. And then again, more recently, I found it creates strong romance qualities, intimacy, closeness, fun, social positivity, and even ‘enchantment,’ but in many cases, for me, the sexual component is not there or reciprocated. So when the spark of sexuality is there already, it magnifies it greatly, but in closing the deal or creating specifically sexual interest alongside everything else, I’m having trouble clicking into this.
A woman I previously dated and got physical with- on WB/Khan— on Dreamboy she just felt assured by me, but no longer wanted to be physical -that pull wasn’t there
I actually had such an amazing encounter with a woman I would consider top tier for me, after weeks of us bonding and flirting, and her sending sexy pictures and being like bf/gf in relating together, and talking on video chat while she lay in bed with skimpy stuff on- when we met up again - she was like I feel the intmacy and magic and love who are you but don’t have that sexual pull.
I dont’ want to overly qualify my post- and there are many factors here, and I can see sparks of WBD having that sexual ability- but having trouble clicking into it- it may be laid back for me. This is not things I’ve encountered when running Khan or WB once I reach that level of connection with people.
(my stack is wealth focused generally but I’ve been taking time to lean more into other subs lately )
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This is what I was thinking. The WB / Khan archetype resonates better with you. When we say “resonance” within this context, think of “relational or romantic method.” As in – if you weren’t using a title, what is your default relational strategy within romance? Is it closer to what you’d experience on WB / Khan or WBD?
If it’s the former, the best use of WDB is to enhance your primary relational / romance method or explore another method. If it’s the latter, use WDB to figure out what’s stopping you from naturally expressing the “Dream Boy” archetype.
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This is so powerful and a great question, I’d say I form alot friendships or caring about people from WDB style , but with my sexual and romantic encounters naturally pre- subs- I would just barely talk to people and we’d end we’d end up having sex- so probably Khan or WB, then it became more Primal, around fun and freedom. So I have not formed a lot of romance or sexual encounters via WBD style before before. To me maybe it’s to associated with friendship and platonicintimacy- even if the sexual capacity is there. I increasingly no longer resonant with WB, because I am capable and fully open of being someone who commits and takes womans lives to the next level in partnership and WB increasing clashes with this. Although that may be adjusted with concious use.
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About 2 months (from dec 11ish to February 14). Would’ve been sooner but ivd been a lot less social this year. Kept to myself most of Jan and Feb. V day weekend made up for all that though. The day after, I hooked up with a friend I hadn’t seen in 6 months and we had a threesome with someone we’d just met. Recently heard back from the third, they still about me all the time lol
Funny you mention that. My first sucsss story was my v day date who I didn’t meet through kink or any sex positive spaces. We’d been IG buddies for a while but no flirting or much content. In fact when she asked to me out, i figured she moment the weekend after v day until she hit me up on the day.
It was our first time meeting and took about 30 meets between the front door and the bedroom.
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Here’s how I see things, dream boy resonates with my romantic philosophy. Even without subs, I was creating a warm, safe and intimate environment that people don’t want to leave. When folks pick up on that energy and embrace it, they’re a lot more comfortable being sexual. I know all this because I almost never initate sex. All dream boy did was give a framework to guide and develop what was already there.
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That’s awesome for your situation; my experience is that I can’t break the sexual barrier on it. Could be recon, still acclimation, or a lack of resonance. It could also be just not enough experience being accustomed to that style, or a mix from previous stacks still in effect, creating mixed messages.
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@Azriel while I haven’t ran dream boy much, I definitely experience a lot of inconsistency in terms of results with those titles. I think one thing that could play a factor, is just not having that long term-consistency that we run the more wealth/success focused titles as. Could be archtype hangup, but logically when I think about it, if I’m running most of my stack 3X/week at 3-5 mins, but only running something like wanted for a microloop before going out, I think it’s going to be a bit over powered, which I also think is part of the drawback to having your main goal/focus on career is it’s hard to really get to that advanced level of game when results are consistent across the board.
For me- the biggest thing I’ve noticed with subs, rather then effecting external results/manifesration, is that they tend to change what I “optimize for”. Meaning a few weeks after running a wealth sub, I find myself optimizing for having a strong day at work, stability, routine. These are things that in my opinion work strongly against “pick up/closing” all though are strong qualities in a long term relationship.
To really optimize for game/closing, you’d probably shift your sleeping schedule later so your not as tired going out at night, shift your communication style- more fun/emotional, less logical, be more adventurous and take fun trips/expieriences. Things that are all pretty counter productive to massive career/sales success.
I think it’s somewhat just part of the yin/yang of dating and career. You can have it all, but you can’t have it all at once 
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Does that work for people?
I think at the very least, I notice a perceptual/state shift that is beneficial. Definitely not to the same extent of running as you would a regular title in your stack, and that’s what I was referring to with expieriencing inconsistent results. I do have a pretty strong history of running wanted back in the older tech days, so for me I think it potentially re-activates what’s already there - but I’m sure not nearly the results I would see if I ran an actual cycle.
My life and work don’t typically alot for running something like wanted for more then 2-3 weeks at a time before noticing a performance hit, so I tend to just do the occasional Microloops.
I typically pick my stacks by having one long term foundational/archtype sub that I don’t rotate, a focused sub that specializes in whatever my main focus is that season, and then my 3rd slot I experiment with more every few weeks or so, keeping at micro loops so it’s easier to rotate but depending around big work weeks or social events I tailor it around that.
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Who’s still using it? Any results?
I’ve got more to share but wanted to hear from others first.
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Now thats legendary.
This man is a hero !!!
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Oh snap, I forgot one of the best parts.
May 31st: Soulmate girl says she has never had an orgasm from a man in her life, although she doens’t have an issue orgasming if she’s masturbating.
She quotes a history of sexual assault, trauma, and a lack of feeling of safety with men in general as the primary reason why.
I ran Divine Diamond 2 days in a row, only for 7 seconds the first day, and 15 seconds the 2nd day, to keep it fast acting.
June 1st: When we had sex, I made her orgasm by giving her oral, and I knew it would be a lot for her and I didn’t realize how much. After I made her orgasm, I lied down with her for a while, rather than jumping into penetrative sex right away.
She asked me if I was “proud of myself” for being the first guy to ever make her orgasm. She was giving me a little bit of playful banter energy in that.
I said, slowly, activating “no, well, actually I’m expecting a little bit of an emotional release from you after that, that’s probably a lot for you.” And it shifted her entirely. She became more meek and gave me a “yeah…” and cuddles up to me cutely, shyly. She starts to sob. Happy sobs. Sad sobs. Grieving sobs. Connected sobs. Healing sobs. Sobs like the story she’d been telling herself her whole life about being broken was wrong the whole time kind of sobs.
We don’t just do this work for ourselves, boyz.
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WTF I had someone thing so similar happen as well. Incredible romance, didn’t get physical, incredible healing, wrong for eachother in the stages of our lives.
Same, I had fewer choices in the end than you did, though. I was left like I was ‘not enough’ for them and our connection didn’t matter compared to other dynamics and logistics. As I would have wanted to progress and would have moved heaven and earth for this person. I’m taking a break from WDB as that soulmate connection without fruition is one of the most painful things I’ve experienced in my adult life. Although it was also one of the most incredible… 
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I got lucky I’ve been traveling for 7 weeks - if it wasn’t for how many women I could meet soooooo quickly, I would have lingered so intensely on each one. If they had happened one per month instead of one per week it would have been painful.
I originally said that that soulmate energy was awful for traveling, but, if that’s your goal, or if your goal is healing your capacity for deep soulmate connections in general, traveling is one of the fastest ways to expose yourself to multiple women and heal that (any) feminine-related wound through repeat exposure.
Stacking WB with WDB long term would be amazing tho.
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Update to the above:
This is coming from the perspective of having run WDB long term,
So perhaps I should be more specific.
After a long run of WDB, continuing to run WDB while adding in WB would add that non-attachment while also keeping the connections INSANELY powerful
And the connections on WB are already insane, even without WDB (from my summer 2024 run)
((This is all just personal experience, not any objective preference, BUT, I also understand why WDB is more “foundational” than WB now that I’ve run both))
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