Thank you, appreciate the clarification
I feel ya man and forget sometimes how much I need to qualify on mediums like this to not be misunderstood for the completely masculinely un-evolved/chode opinion lol
To expand: Devil’s Advocate stance here. That a HIGH level of Romance , reverie, and being an ideal dreamy man in her eyes MAY lead women to want something more sustainable than just casually sexual. Boyfriend vs. just Smash.
That’s not a bad thing. And again, maybe not, maybe brief but deeply met sexual intimacy that’s more casual will unfold from that sub. I’m sure conscious intent and users will guide this. Just speculation that elements of the sub could lead to stronger, longer expectations and interest. Still seductive.
And that is separate from the discussion on holding out vs. not. Although I get the inference for sure.
Some will hold out for unhealthy reasons- anxiety, rigidity, games, misleading, ‘locking’ in extremely high status people whom they don’t fully trust etc
and others for very healthy ones. - Wanting security and safety and commitment after years of starting too soon sexually, wanting a family and to be going the same direction, etc.
It’s not always a game, an unhealthy issue, or a case of being misled. I don’t want to take up this thread with too much of the philosophy/experience of this, so feel free to comment on my journal about it.
Personal experience-wise, I’ve met and slept with women within 10 minutes of meeting them many times in my life, and I’ve spent years as friends with someone before we got physical. I’ve seen a decent amount of diversity here, and I know, as someone involved in subs and different growth modalities for years, how I ‘show up’/ ‘be’ colors a lot.
The specific ‘signatures’ energetically/dispositionally can definitely bring out different sides in a woman, in my experience.
I’ve had it happen with two women, where when I run Wanted Black, we end up having sex. But unless that is in my stack, they hold it unless and try to get me to be their boyfriend, haha. (Those situations are a bit more complicated as well, though)
Well, that’s dope. It sounds like you have a lot of confidence and expertise in this area, and I look forward to hearing more of your results with Dream Boi.