Women who wanted me to be a serious boyfriend have never refused to have sex with me immediately out of some mating strategy.
I chalk that up to me being sexual and expressing interest from the jump, they know who I am and they know what I want from them in that moment. And I engage with them in such a way that they want it too.
If a woman isn’t dying to fuck you and willing to throw out whatever bullshit “wait 3 dates” rule she heard from her sorority sisters, that sounds more like a skill issue or a woman who is more interested in playing games than anything else.
Should that be the case, which I don’t think it is, as like I said the ability to “get sexual” is a skill issue not a sub issue - to anyone reading this who assessed this sub as not being sexual enough - stack it with GLM.
At the end of the day, unless you have sexual trauma you need to heal, we are men and “getting sexual” is not an issue for us.
The issue is EXPRESSING and having the confidence and LEADERSHIP to move things in a sexual direction.
If anyone feels they need a hyper sexual sub to push them to express their sexuality, I would counter and say what you actually need is an emotional healing and masculine embodiment combination of subs.
Edit - any references to “you” are not directed at you in specific Az, just a general “you” to the reader or the hypothetical man in the situation we are talking about
Like I said, learning to embody masculine energy and sexuality, and express it playfully and without heavyhandedness or demand from a woman, is the key to unlocking the full potential of not just WDB but any and all romance/seduction subs.
I was about to say the same thing, rofl. I’m not sure what people are expecting from Dream Boy, but a woman openly touching you is a very overt sign that she’s possibly attracted to you. All you have to do at that point is ask them out.
This is still the distortion that I was hinting at. WANTED: Dream Boy is not a “social” title. It’s a seduction title. The archetype itself lends itself to easier social encounters because it’s a fun person to be around. Since people started using Dream Boy, I’ve seen more people report overt touching, or other extremely overt signs of attraction – and the name of the title is literally WANTED.
As in, people will WANT you, lol.
I am quite confused (amusingly) at some of the responses that I’ve seen. I’ve literally read reports here and support of people saying that women were more touchy with them, staring into their eyes, wanting to get them alone, showing their caretaking side more overtly and openly.
The response: “But I don’t see overt attraction…”
… WAT?
The nature of our work gives us great insight into the collective. We keep telling everyone that’s the real “secret” – our innate and now trained ability to see patterns within groups of people, large and small. And I can attest to what I’m going to say next, for I have seen it with my own eyes.
Men are weird right now when it comes to dating. And I don’t want to talk about root causes and the such, only how this can affect your results on Dream Boy. Because men are doing such weird things, women have developed some strong shielding techniques. One of them being the “harsh letdown,” where it seems like they reject a man very harshly to send a very overt signal that their attention is not wanted.
So, what is the opposite of this pole? Women wanting to touch you, or be near you. Massaging your shoulders, expressing that they want to “take care” of you. Them expressing that they feel safe around you. Their nervous system relaxing.
I think the misconception here is that the only thing that comes out of that moment is some kind of tender, loving, romantic moment. And yes, that type of moment can occur. But I think, especially when stacking Dream Boy with something else, you should really think of the type of sexual interaction that occur under those conditions.
We are talking about a situation where your sexual partner feels completely at ease to stop restraining their libido and sexual inhibitions and simply be present in the moment, letting go of all concerns that normally cloud sex.
“Is this guy going to be a creep after I sleep with him?” NOPE. The Dream Boy operates from a place of authenticity and abundance, he has no desire, nor need for that type of attachment.
“Is he going to just want me ONLY for sex?” The Dream Boy most certainly wants and enjoys sex. He is completely at peace with his physical needs, for he recognizes that sexual interaction is one of the most quintessential interactions between humans. So, no – he won’t want you JUST for sex. He’s also going to enlighten your life, relax your mind and then you’ll have some of the most freeing and intimate sex ever. He won’t have to push, because the experience is THAT liberating for both people.
Subliminal Club does not deal with shallow level analysis of these topics. We go deep into the nuances, we consider every angle. We have some pretty epic debates – and I mean we’ve almost come to fisticuffs before because we’ve disagreed on these topics and how to proceed. You can rest assured that with every title, any of these more surface level concerns (like, can you have deeply intimate and wild sex on Dream Boy) has been considered and dealt with in the script.
So the short answer is: You most certainly can, and it will probably be mindblowing.
Maybe my confidence about being attractive to wanted is low right now, I used to assume all girls want me now after I have been cheated on I assume no girl want me and even now that I’m aware of it I can’t seem to raise my confidence.
I mean, it’s a really weird vibe. Libertine was straight up “horndog” levels. WDB + Primal Nights would be better, since it contains a more refined version of Libertine’s aura.
It takes time, patience to develop skills to observe and understand women behaviors and accept them as they are without any labels and names.
It long passed the time of PUA and Red Pill gang, I have to unlearn myself many things that now I consider “toxic” masculinity.
Now I don’t read thru some article of a man explain about a woman and then conclude that women are like this or like that. I don’t make assumption women should behave like this or like that. Now I put myself outside in social situation, observe and learn.
What I learn is this: It’s best to always have some female friends you have known for quite sometime and learn their norm behaviors. Then you will know how female friends behaviors change when you listen to a new sub. From this experience, then you will learn how women change their behaviors.
What is another benefit? Because you have a “real” female friend, from your daily interaction, somehow you will understand women are not like what PUA, Red Pill articles talk about (they are just male logic try to apply and understand female emotion and behaviors - I call it modern Patriarchy lol), you learn to truly observe and learn and therefore understand how women are women in real life.
It reminds me of people wanting mind blowing results. If women aren’t trying to strip them naked or something, then they aren’t seeing overt attraction.
Incidentally a friend tried to strip me when she invited me to sleepover and share a bed. So sometimes they hits are that obvious.
Someone’s going to have to explain to me what “friendly touching” entails. Given that I know the script and the associated aura – which is quite sexually charged – and the reports from many who are finding… some pretty extraordinary success, I find it hard to believe that women going out of their way to touch you isn’t an indicator of attraction.
Especially since the aura specifically filters out anyone who ISN’T attracted to you – as with most of our auras.
IME it (not recognizing, misinterpreting flirty, approaching cues) is a fairly common problem.
A couple of years back I was at a renaissance fair with a good friend. A (very cute) bard kneeled before, locked eyes with her (well, tried to) and sang a Minnelied (historic love song) and she didn’t get that he was flirting. Nice song and all, but it was just his role etc.
