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#980

SubliminalClub Support - Differences in physical shifting between W, WB, WDB

Hi there,

Great question! Each WANTED title approaches physical shifting differently based on its archetype and goals. Let me break down the differences:

WANTED (Original):

The original WANTED includes physical shifting scripting designed to help you develop a magnetic, mysterious physical presence. The focus is on creating a physique that embodies the “mysterious man everyone wants to know” archetype — attractive, intriguing, and attention-commanding.

WANTED: Dream Boy:

Dream Boy uses “The Becoming Frame” for its physical shifting approach, which is philosophically different from standard physical shifting:

  • Alignment-based transformation: Rather than pushing or forcing changes, it helps you shift how you relate to your body and its evolution
  • Nervous system anchoring: Works by anchoring your nervous system to an inner image of strength and coherence, allowing your body to organize itself around a deeper sense of purpose
  • Natural, automatic changes: Your posture subtly reorients, movements gain precision, breathing deepens without conscious control
  • Aesthetic refinement: Strength builds with symmetry and intention — your form becomes more aesthetic, powerful, and expressive (not simply larger, but clearer)
  • Embodied presence: The way you inhabit your body begins to communicate presence and vitality before you say a word
  • Safe, steady momentum: Your body continues to reshape itself steadily and safely, respecting its own limits

The Becoming Frame is designed to create a physique that matches the “dream boy” archetype: refined, aesthetic, strong yet gentle, with a presence that feels both grounded and ethereal.

WANTED: Black:

Black takes physical shifting to the maximum level:

  • Enhanced Legacy of the Spartan: Contains the physical shifting from the original WANTED, but enhanced with the powerful advancements and refinements found in Legacy of the Spartan (one of our most advanced physical development titles)
  • Maximum intensity: As an artisan line product, the limits normally placed on major titles have been removed — the physical shifting is significantly more potent
  • Formidable presence: Designed to help you sculpt a physique that commands attention and admiration, optimizing your physical capabilities
  • Comprehensive transformation: Offers a more aggressive approach to physical transformation compared to the original WANTED

Summary of Differences:

Intensity Level:

  • Dream Boy: Gentle, alignment-based, steady
  • WANTED (Original): Moderate, balanced for everyday use
  • Black: Maximum, intense, “no holds barred”

Approach:

  • Dream Boy: Works through nervous system alignment and natural unfolding (The Becoming Frame)
  • WANTED (Original): Standard physical shifting for magnetic presence
  • Black: Enhanced with Legacy of the Spartan refinements for comprehensive transformation

Aesthetic Goal:

  • Dream Boy: Refined, aesthetic, symmetrical — embodies the “dreamy romantic” presence (strength with gentleness)
  • WANTED (Original): Magnetic, mysterious, intriguing presence
  • Black: Formidable, commanding, attention-dominating presence

Speed and Power:

  • Dream Boy: Steady, safe, respects natural limits
  • WANTED (Original): Balanced for main title use
  • Black: Significantly more potent (artisan line = limits removed)

Which One Is Right for You?

Choose WANTED: Dream Boy if:

  • You want a more gentle, alignment-based approach
  • You prefer aesthetic refinement over raw power
  • You want a physique that embodies romantic, dreamy presence
  • You want steady, safe transformation that respects your body’s limits

Choose WANTED (Original) if:

  • You want balanced physical shifting that works for most users
  • You want a mysterious, magnetic physical presence
  • You want a main title that’s powerful but not overwhelming

Choose WANTED: Black if:

  • You’re an advanced user comfortable with intense subliminals
  • You want maximum physical transformation results
  • You want a formidable, commanding physical presence
  • You can handle the attention and intensity that comes with Black
  • You’ve successfully run other major titles before (required for artisan line)

Important Notes:

  1. All three approaches work — they just have different philosophies and intensity levels
  2. WANTED: Black requires experience — it’s an artisan line product, not for beginners
  3. The Becoming Frame in Dream Boy is unique — it’s not “weaker,” it’s just a different approach (alignment vs. force)
  4. Physical shifting requires action — all three titles work best when you’re actually training, eating well, and taking care of your body

Does this help clarify the differences? Let me know if you have questions about any specific approach!

Best regards,

Subliminal Club Support

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#981

I’m finding that I need to increase me carbs on this sub, otherwise I feel low energy and have brain fog.

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#982

The real point is to recognize your value after you looked into the mirror (as long as it takes) and cut out what is of no value to anybody, then make your value grow stronger.

I am not talking about external values, like stable income, your looks, your possessions etc etc.

Find what is valuable in yourself and then let this be your new startingpoint.

If you have found value in yourself - nobody can deplete you.

You are like the sun ever-shining

That’s the point of authenticity

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#983

This is not our idea of being WANTED. We never said anything about “not having to provide value back,” and in fact, we include a lot of scripting in all versions of WANTED about having fun dates and outings, fun conversation, fun intimate experiences. I have outright said things like: “If you’re going to play the WANTED role, we’re going to include scripting that helps you give the woman the best date / night of her life.”

We are not going to make titles in which the user can extract value from another human being without providing anything in return. And that point is really not up for negotiation, especially when it’s based on a personal viewpoint that most wouldn’t agree with.

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#984

Maybe he got that perception because of how naturally smooth & effortless it is for us using the Wanted products to bring value into women’s lives?

That’s why it feels like we’re not doing as much while we’re actually doing all the necessary things for the relation effortlessly.

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#985

I remember my mentor said, The feminine wants attention from the masculine, Shes like a flower and you are the sun.

You are litteraly blessing her with the greatest gift of all if you are just authentic and not in your head.

You are giving her permission to be herself, You see her inner little girl, that has its insecurites,

And you see her inner little slut that wants to come out and play.

And you love her for all of it.

Seriously relaxation and just having fun is like 95% of the game, I remember he said if you just did the relaxation part you have more results than 99% of guys.

And then there’s the whole social dynamic around being relaxed and goofy around her that implies pre selection and that you are used to women,

She might even think you are use to hotter women.

All my best results never came from me trying to be high status,or pick a girl up,

The whole term pick her up implies you are taking value. You are blessing her with your presence, and she is blessing you with hers.

Or atleast that’s how i see it.

There’s been several girls i dated who said you are so different. One of them said you changed my life more in one date than some have a entire relationship.

Another started listening to my guided meditations to sleep XD.

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Tale of the Dreamy Khan: Thermae of Love - a Wonders-full story
#986

And also expecting girls to approach only will make you miss alot of opportunities.

Imagine you have approach anxiety, How much approach anxiety do you think a 45 kg girl will have that never started self development and stuff.

Im not saying it never happens, im just saying some never will. Most girls love being approached during the day, it fullfills their disney fantazy if you are charming.

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#987

Sometimes on this sub I just feel like talking to a woman who’s maybe on the counter or doing something mundane and just joke around. I asked a server if there was any cow juice for my tea and that made her laugh.

That’s it.

No flexing muscles, no negging, no strategising, no ingratiating myself to her. No expectations of getting “laid” or whatever the end goal is. Just rizz and vibes. Which women happen to like very much.

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#988

Found ASBR with WB works well for a cold approach. Not had any success when it comes to using my lots/wdb for a cold approach.

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#989

When Timothée Chalamet enters the room, she will approach him, regardless how “shy” she is.

The trigger for her to approach you, simply needs to be strong enough.

If the trigger is not strong enough, then maybe you are not yet “Wanted” enough in her eyes?

What you call “missed opportunities” here, I would call “you comensating for her lack of attraction for you by doing the works for her and approaching her”… :thinking:

#990

I don’t think I agree with this assumption. Sure, some would, but I don’t think you’re realizing the sheer amount of people (regardless of gender) don’t actually want to engage in the “risk” of approaching. Some may be social anxiety, some may just be that they aren’t inclined to approach. People’s personalities and ways of handling sexual/romantic feelings are different. I know quite a few people who are head over heels for someone, yet absolutely refuse to approach or start a conversation with the person.

EDIT: Some could also be intimidated by those they’re strongly attracted to. You see it a lot with guys and super attractive women, at least in the younger generation. Either a “there’s no point” or “she’ll just reject me” mindset. What if she’s confused by the feelings that you generate, and those feelings themselves are scaring her? “Why am I feeling this way about someone I’ve just met once?”

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Thoughts and Rambles
#991

Good point.

But here I would ask the question, would you wanna be together with someone in the first place who absolutely refuses to go after something they want and despite fully knowing that they want it really bad?

If she refuses to absolutely go after something she actually wants because of some self-invented mental rules, then she’s probably wouldn’t go after any other goal in life either, wouldn’t she?

To me, that would be a major red flag in a person.

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#992

Isn’t everything a self-invented mental rule? I thought those are what we were here to break.

I definitely understand your preference and get the point you’re making, but I don’t think a limiting “mental rule” in one area necessarily implies its existence in another. A ton of guys are willing to cold approach, yet are they all financially successful? The fact that they’re willing to chase after what they want should imply that they’d chase after obtaining wealth with reckless abandon, yet not all of them may be like that. I think the situation is a little more nuances and complex.

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#993

And to play devil’s advocate for a moment, I believe I’ve seen the exact opposite of this argument on the forum before. Would you really feel better dating someone who approaches every single person they find attractive? There are quite a few negative stereotypes that could be cast on such a person. Even on a more primitive social level, we prefer people who are also selective and not chasing everyone they come across, as it signals their value too.

Those may not be your feelings at all, but also to anyone else reading. Now we have arguments on two opposing ends of the spectrum complaining about not seeing a specific result, which may not even be indicative of the actual attraction being felt. If the other person’s going to be villainized regardless of whether they approached you or not, what’s the point?

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#994

That’s just not true. Some would approach sure, but far more wouldn’t because they are too shy. And if they’re not too shy, some women just have a rule where they won’t approach a man. There’s plenty of women on social media who complain more and more that men don’t approach anymore. They say stuff like “well today I walked by my potential husband/bf/lover but he will never know because he’s a pussy despite me giving him all the hints”.

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#995

Agree

If anyone has spent any time learning what is attractive it comes down to that really

Have good body language, posture, tonality and slow down your speech

And learn how to feel at ease

Glad Wanted Dream Boy has the nervous system regulation too

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#997

i think women don’t have too much right to complain this a few days ago I saw on twitter a woman was she was mortified because a man approached him, they complain men don’t approach also they are trying to humiliate them when men approach

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#998

Well…I dont want to give Saint another headache and turn this thread into ideology but both things can be true.

Women DO want to be approached by men they find attractive, and they DO NOT want men they don’t find attractive to approach them.

This is why it’s important to be a WANTED man :relieved:

(Saint don’t worry I wont go past this reply-if others disagree with what I just said, I am ok with agreeing to disagree).

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#999

Yes, but when you became wanted man will you be attractive to all women? I think a person shouldn’t do approaching if he doesn’t get clear iois -signs- I think because this subject is a little problematic, I didn’t do any approaching before and I don’t think I would approach a random woman on the street who I don’t know

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#1000

I don’t care about anyone’s personal ideologies about women, dating or what-have-you, but it’s detailing the thread. Can we move the Timothée Chalamet chatter to another thread?

Edit: You’re all thinking way too much about this. It aint that deep.

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