Emperor and Wanted.
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I suspect King’s Radiance also has a thing to do with some of those results along with WB and SB.
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Yesterday, I did a 30 second microloop of KHAN 1 and a 30 microsecond of WB. So just 60 seconds of script exposure in total.
But completely contrary to my expectations, this combo suddenly started to brutally work on past rejection traumas from my puberty. Rejection is my main recon topic when it comes to the WB script. I had super intense recon nightmares throughout the whole night 
. The recon was like when listening to KHAN 1 ZP V1 for two full loops for the very first time.
So it seems, that adding a microloop of KHAN 1 before a certain title, will kinda amplify and multiply the reconciliation process of that certain title and brutally clean out everything that stands in its way.
I am going to test this theory with the following microloops next:
- KHAN 1 30 sec + EoG 1 30 sec
- KHAN 1 30 sec + EE 30 sec
- KHAN 1 30 sec + ASBR 30 sec
- KHAN 1 30 sec + Love Bomb 30 sec
- KHAN 1 30 sec + AoH 1 30 sec
- KHAN 1 30 sec + AS 1 30 sec
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I remember getting interesting results with Noodz Girl running Khan1 and Wanted. Curious to know if you get recon from that combo like you did with K1+WB. Assuming you have Wanted.
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Yes, I have WANTED. Thank you, I will test this combo as well.
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Just a reminder on recon:
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Cool. Nice to see TB is still working as a stack barrier buster.
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If I feel stuck on using seduction titles you think TB is the answer?
Why do you feel stuck, or what specifically are you stuck with?
K1 is certainly not a bad idea. Another thing to consider; is that sometimes our blocks might be coming from a different area/not romance related.
For example; Ive had big wealth throughs where I felt stuck, by addressing cognitive/productivity issues rather then just wealth alone.
Figure out exactly why/where you feel stuck still. Perhaps it’s related to something else entirely, like freedom; status, resources, etc.
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Thanks for your reply, man.
You ask really good questions—they help me explain what’s going on.
I’ve had some success with cognitive enhancement titles.
For example, OG Wanted worked well the first time I used it, during the first cycle. But when I came back to it later, the results weren’t the same. The same goes for WB—it didn’t do much for me in the past two cycles. I felt some physical shifting and got a bit of attention from women, but it was minimal overall.
Stark, on the other hand, worked quite well in terms of making me more popular around people who already know me. I felt more charismatic and generally happier, though again, not much changed in terms of attraction from women.
Interestingly, just 2 loops of HOM helped me a lot with business.
So I’ve been thinking… I might be lacking the proper foundation for the seduction titles to really take root.
I’m not super alpha or extremely confident—although I do believe in myself. My body language is solid, and I take good care of myself. Still, I feel like there might be some subconscious beliefs holding me back from getting the full results these titles can offer.
It’s like I’m missing that deeper, natural alphaness.
I have been thinking maybe Emperor or and Khan ST1 could help with this.
I am using DRR2 for now btw
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This is something that benefited me greatly. When I initially was running seduction titles when starting with sub club, I was bartending and going out 7X/week, and sometimes approaching up to 100 girls per day. I got insane results, but there was so many “pathways” for the subs to work.
I later realized that although I was getting good results, I still had blocks with girls that I was really attracted to, were higher status, etc. This sent me down on a wealth journey, as I decided that improving my quality of life and having more resources, would actually be the best way to improving my romance/dating life, as social skills and beliefs around women were no longer a constraint.
Now that im in a better place financially and status wise (not where I want to be, but much more self reliant), and I spent years building my social skills and “game”through running subs like primal seduction, and wanted, I get literally insane results anytime I run something like wanted now. Quite literally would have a harem after one cycle if I choose to lol.
Do some reflecting, and find out why you already don’t have the dating life you want. Is it “access” to high quality women, is it being able to close the deal, is it a lack of general social skills, and then address that specifically.
Lastly, the post powerful “action” with wanted, is to become a local celebrity of sorts. Frequent the same spots you like to go out. Talk to every body, not just girls. Treat people well, become friends with the staff. If you can build a friend group of attractive women, dating or not, and then go out places together where you know everybody and every body knows you, that’s when the real objectives of wanted come in, and you will be the one pursued.
I also am a big proponent of cold approach. There is nothing close to sharpening your general social skills, allowing you to handle social pressure, and just giving you that killer edge/hardness, because it’s one of the hardest things a man can do.
Still working on cracking the wealth code personally, but as an average looking/height guy, who was dead broke, driving a beat down car, and getting by through sheer personality and social skills, the romance results that ive achieved with these subs back in the day were pretty extraordinary, and the methods above work without question lol.
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Emperor + Primal Seduction or Wanted + Limit Destroyer.
Stark + Primal Seduction or Wanted + Limit Destroyer
Genesis + Primal Seduction or Wanted + Limit Destroyer.
Or Emperor + Limit Destroyer or Solo
Or Khan solo.
A lot of what you describe is normal in my experience.
Typically titles follow a predictable processing flow.
First cycle:
Days 1-7: RESULTS! You start to see a new reality.
Days 8-21: Results slow or appear to reverse as recon sets in. You finish feeling below baseline.
Second Cycle: You return to baseline, improved.
Third Cycle: You return to the level that you saw in your first week and begin to surpass it.
Beyond: results both improve and deepen, as the changes integrate within you.
Long story short, you need to pick a stack and stick with it for more than 3 months.
Khan could be a great option for breaking through recon, but IMO the Khan journey really needs to be finished after it’s begun.
So you’ll need to be able to commit to Khan for 4-12 months.
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What about stacking Emperor with Dragon Reborn Red?
I feel like I don’t yet have a solid enough foundation for titles like Primal Seduction, Wanted Black, or even the regular Wanted.
I did fairly well on Primal, but when I look at the objectives of Khan and Emperor, both already contain strong seduction scripting — probably more than enough.
Even if I don’t achieve direct seduction results, I’d still grow internally. With WB, I didn’t feel like I was growing as a man, likely because my subconscious wasn’t fully executing the seduction scripting.
Right now, I’m using DRR Stage 2, and I want to finish the full journey. I’ve been thinking about stacking it with Khan Stage 1 and Emperor.
I’m unsure if running all three together is a bad idea. Maybe a two-title stack would be more effective — but not necessarily.
Dragon Reborn Red could handle the deep healing, Emperor could build strong character and inner power, and Khan Stage 1 might help dissolve limiting beliefs around attraction and women.
What do you think?
After using DRR with Emperor (And maybe with Khan as well) for few months finishing the journey of DRR I could try again something like Wanted or PS or WB
When I used Primal Seduction, I did notice it helped me choose the right words at times when approaching women. However, I feel that what I truly need first is to build a solid alpha frame — that’s what women seem to respond to the most. A strong frame also helps me maintain clear boundaries and stay grounded during interactions.
I remember when I ran Emperor for a few loops — I naturally held my ground, respected myself, and others (including women) responded to that energy. I didn’t feel the need to prove anything.
In contrast, when I used Wanted, Wanted Black, or even PS, it felt like I was trying hard to seduce them, but I lacked that internal alpha foundation. I ended up being less assertive and struggled with maintaining my boundaries.
I will take that into account.
That’s interesting to note.
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I don’t go out 7 times a week however I do go out a lot and approach many girls - that said I feel stuck and nothing much is happening.
I know how to talk to women and have experience. My energy is off for sure.
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You know what you need.
Alpha foundation is pretty much name of the game and rest flows from there.
Stick to 2 titles especially with multistagers.
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Sure, sounds like a great plan. If your drawn to that stack because you have a gut feeling that it’ll deliver, then do it.
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Heartsong or Lovebomb would be far better in that regard. It all boils down to worthiness and self acceptance. Both of which are multilayered with endless depths to reach and solidify
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Primal could be the move here if your energy is off. IMO, that comes from being needy, or really having any agenda at all.
I think a lot of guys try to be to cool/sexy/attractive as their focus and that can backfire.
Girls will respond to fun/playful/self amused 100X over being cool. Old RSD infield videos would give you an idea of the vibe rhat actually works. I tend to take this to the extreme, like I am full on obnoxious and rediclous when I go out (in a socially calibrated way), to the point where I would imagine my friends are thinking “did he really just do/say that”.
If you look around at rhe guys dating rhe most attractive women, most of the time they are just regular looking, funny guys, who can go out and be a good time, not be weird, and who are comfortable with who they are. Shane Gillis is an example, of the type of guy that actually does well with women.
This is the type of vibe that primal can help cultivate. Once your already that fun guy that everyone loves, you are funny, charismatic, cool social group, then play around with the other stuff, but I honestly believe until then your not really even in the game.
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100% agree with @Niles here. In my experience, I’d always get girls when I was in my fun, not giving an f mood. And I have some friends who embody that energy easily and they seem to get girls like its nothing
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The three major issues I see here are trying to hasten your growth, trying to run advanced subs while still in the healing process, and not addressing the key aspects of your development with subs that are anchored in your reality—where your habitual actions and daily behaviors are enough to make great progress without a significant need to step far out of your comfort zone.
No worries, these are the most cardinal sins at SC, lol. On the bright side, thanks to WB, you’ve uncovered the areas that need the most improvement. Now, it’s about working on them with subs that specifically address those aspects and, again, are anchored in your reality. Perhaps the new True Social paired with SSX will be all you need.
Running WB helped me realize that my main issue is
and for that reason, I’m focused on becoming financially independent—to the point where I can have a lifestyle I deem best for me, which naturally opens up a whole new world of possibilities relevant to WB.
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