Main Disc. Thread - Ultima Core v2 Upgrades

Hahaha, I’m only doing two loops a day, I know this from previous technology and now it’s even more apparent.

But yes, this is very correct – rest days are essential. Total rest days, and or resting several days on a particular script while listening to others. I’ve noticed even while resting on a specific script while listening to another still allows it to integrate and execute.

Many people are, it just depends on their current reality. There are Emperors and Khans currently living among us, alongside Emperors and Khans well on their paths of becoming, they would easily be able to listen to these programs at high loops.

Even on previous technology, after a month on Khan Total Breakdown, I was seeing Mind’s Eye of several months earlier execute! :hushed:

Meditate on these concepts and you will understand, it just is beyond the rational mind it takes a silent mind to observe patterns, note them down, then act upon them and rehash the whole process, beyond that an understanding of universal laws and psychology.

I’m advocating a regular and balanced approach because with any powerful technology it can be used constructively and destructively, even though the scripts are supposed to benefit us, it’s still in the hands of the users and most people just want a plug & play approach which is understandable.

Might be doing a washout until all the scripts have integrated and executed so I can see long they linger on and affect me.

I believe some are highly underestimating the current technology and misusing it unknowingly.

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Yes, because they have the FOUNDATION that I am talking about.

You will not get a virgin, beta-minded guy still living at his parents’ house with no purpose, job, and tons of traumas and limiting beliefs to run Khan St4 at high loops, and executing it properly.

Yes, absolutely and most are underestimating the power of older titles like Ascension, Mogul etc. Those are incredibly POWERFUL products. They are all updated to the LATEST TECH. If you are the guy above, you will most likely see far superior results going into Ascension first and building your way up instead of trying to brute-forcing your subconscious mind into accepting the new reality of Khan which is like trying to get a dog to become like a cat.

Can you potentially do it?
Yes

Is the most optimal way?
No

If you are still deciding to go for that route, you will probably end up like me after a year or more going back to Ascension/Emperor or Primal to built this proper foundation first. And that is okay.

There is really no shame in going back to one of the more foundational products. Everyone wants faster, and faster results, skipping this crucial step of building a foundation first. But in my opinion, one is just harming himself with that strategy.

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@SaintSovereign
Any more detail on this or will that spoil furture products?
Also from my end usual adter a certain amount of days into a wash like 7 everything seems like before i ran sub with the usual benefits is this common?
Did you or will we see benefits from ultima (that were used as a booster) when using longer rest periods?

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Couldn’t agree more.

Joined SC back in October and did Khan/DR to begin with (also thought I could skip relatively quickly through st. 1-3) since I thought I had a really good foundation.

Even though I got something out of it, I just realized that other people got much better results. Now I’m transitioning over to Ascension and Primal as my main subs, and so far, things are going exceptionally well really fast.

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This post really makes me think and consider the next steps in my plans. Thank you for writing this well thought out and totally accurate post.

Something i have noticed a lot the past few months in how much my goals and wants out of life have changed.

I have been on my subclub journey for almost 3 years and i have changed so much since i started even though i have jumped around like a rabbit. I have went from having absolutely no clue in what i wanted out of life being almost 29 to being 31 with lots of crazy goals working towards them but still needing more direction and drive.

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@SaintSovereign, just how much stronger is Qv2 compared to Q – people went from 3 to 6 loops/day into 1 to 3 loops/day, and some even less than that.

Has Qv2 doubled in density, besides of course the new scripting and enhanced smoothness, which should theoretically allow us to ingest and execute the scripts more easily, so taking all of that into the account – how much has Qv2 increased in power in comparison with Q?

I notice it especially with Ultima’s, Qv2 as well but Ultima has always been exceptionally taxing.

In the past, I was able to do one loop or two loops of a Custom and maximally three or four of a regular program, nowadays it’s more like one loop of a Custom and perhaps two of regular programs – as far as Ultima’s are concerned one loop has me completely boggled for three days, lol!

Would you mind looking into decreasing strength levels so we can choose for ourselves how powerful the programs of our choosing are? For the reasons stated above; to clarify – so we can increase the strength levels as we go, eventually doing only one loop of our desired program, perhaps once a week but until we get there slowly and steadily upgrade the strength levels?

So, for example, the density level of Q, then Qv2, and thirdly Q+?

There are plenty of other reasons why this would be beneficial, now, the one stated above is the most obvious and useful one for the community.

"So, for example, the density level of Q, then Qv2, and thirdly Q+? " – all of these of course with the newest manifestation Core.

I see you’d love to take the Programs to a point where we can benefit from them doing only one loop a week, which I highly encourage and am enthusiastic about.

At the beginning of any subliminal, we can only do so many loops, then after a while, our realities become that of the subliminal and we start to increase loops drastically without side-effects, now imagine instead of increasing the loops just upgrading the power or strength level? The same cycle all over again, until we can step up to the next one and so on.

This would also allow users to play around with the Q level of all programs without too many consequences, just to feel into various programs and to experiment with different combinations of programs until they have found what suits them best? Once a stack is established, they can start listening, take action and go through the aforementioned regime to accomplish their objectives.

What do you think?

And perhaps a “How did I get to Love subliminal washouts so much” in there too, hee hee, LOL!

Same here – subliminal’s are a means of changing our thought patterns which on their end change our emotions affecting our mood and therefore our decisions/actions, leading into new timelines if you understand the butterfly effect.

The experiences we gain is what’ll eventually change our believes and identity.

So imagine taking a subliminal break, no subliminal input is added to our subconscious mind, our thoughts return back to their normal order and we start to see our identity as it is programmed in its present state.

During this period I’ve noticed some radical shifts and I concluded how much these programs have changed me for the better – even without the input, the experiences I’ve had with them have totally changed me.

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Just here me out on this,

what if there was a subclub app, with all your purchased titles and products on it. each time you listened to a sub, that “listen” would be tracked and you could also report all of your results in easy, statistical data (on a scale of 1-10, how was your _____, etc etc). Then all those answers + listening history would go into a data collection for sub club. then the makers could have a ton of stats on what’s working/progress, etc

Has anyone thought of this ?
What do you think?

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Please everyone, I’ve been trying to get this through to you all. And when Q+ comes out…

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Unless some of us start listening to RV finally.

Also, what Saint said above resonates a lot with RV’s teachings, guys.
I’m still testing that pattern but it helped me deal with stonewalling and heavy overload three weeks ago. I’ll be doing another one week washout now, after listening to my subs for two weeks only (twelve loops in total, six a week). I really feel “saturated” and the need to switch to integrating only (from Saturation Phase to Integration Phase).

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When you’re still hoping you could swim faster on higher loops:

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The experiences we gain is what’ll eventually change our believes and identity.
So imagine taking a subliminal break, no subliminal input is added to our subconscious mind, our thoughts return back to their normal order and we start to see our identity as it is programmed in its present state.
During this period I’ve noticed some radical shifts and I concluded how much these programs have changed me for the better – even without the input, the experiences I’ve had with them have totally changed me.

Interesting point! Do you think that, if for example someone listens to True Social for an extended period of time but without going out (lockdown or whatnot), so that he gets no new outside experience to reference his sub use, that the sub still will be affecting his thoughts and emotions when he does go into social settings, even without using social sub beforehand?

What i wonder is, if there is some kind of “muscle memory” similar as in gym, where you are in situation that revolves a target of one of your subliminal stack goals, the mind goes to the most previous programming and changes itself accordingly, even without prior experience.

When Q+ comes out many guys will be getting banned :joy:
Q+ will not be out anytime soon. Up until we are used to QV2.

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:rofl::joy::rofl:

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I feel like with EOG QV2 I am getting a faster mindset shift than when I ran Dragon Reborn Q. It’s going to take a while to get the mental frame and belief structure I am after but it’s no longer an impossibility.

I have been running EOG for less than two weeks.

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That’s got to be, at least in part, precisely because you ran Dragon Reborn Q.

So curious about that program, but still looks like I’m not going to be using it yet for quite a while.

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The funniest part is how despite knowing, intellectually, about reconciliation and our inability to directly observe subconscious processes, we’re all still surprised each and every time this happens like clockwork.

We listen to a new, increased-power track for a couple of days and then it’s like:

com-gif-maker

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Be right back, just replying to a forum post.

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Then here come @RVconsultant or @DarkPhilosopher, to quietly escort the person off while they either say:

“I don’t know what happened…”

or

“You’ll never take me alive!!!”

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That has crossed my mind.

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or

“Reconciliation made me do it”

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