Main Disc. Thread - True Sell ZP (Now Available!)

Well I’m stacking it with True Sell and its marvelously social.

Everything feels internal, reserved yet completely confident, comfortable and flowing. It’s like everyone is part of my world.

My ability to focus and care more about the intention/outcome of an interaction is stronger on EB. I’m leading interactions better on EB

This combination would be great for undercover work.

HOM/True Sell has proven the most effective combo for sales BY far.

I had one $11K sale on EB yesterday, and nothing today. We’ll see.

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It’s JUST social for the sales mission.

any mission
Everything I’m intentional about or have a goal in that ties into social
Romance and sales so far

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It’s been a while since I reported anything on True Sell.
It’s been a stable in my stack since the end of April
the only non-changing constant.
This report is somewhat journaling for myself and somewhat informative in reporting.
I’ve started a sales career and had many highs and lows.
I’m at a point where I’m solidly consistent and earning on the low end $10k more a month.
I’ve earned about $25K net since May in this role.

My conclusion on true sell is that what it is most brilliant at is presentation. How one presents verbally and all to give the best impression.

I have found it overall to have VERY little swaying power or influence outside of that.

Now in the beginning of using it I felt this wonderful capacity for almost manipulation and this sense and demonstrating of an ability to move people through spaces, and change hearts and minds. Not sure if some internal barrier around manipulation or defeat but for the better part of the last two month, I have seen and experience very little of this ability to turn around in influence.

My close rate was the highest in the company at around 23% and has declined to a slightly above average 11%. 10% being the expected close rate for a top rep. 15%+ being the domain of super achievers.

I’ve been looking for the facts/ understanding on how with a higher exposure of a sub designed solely around this my performance has declined as I’ve gotten more experienced and skilled, other than the general cycle. It’s unfair to say that, as my week to week net revenue is consistently better because I am closing clients at a higher revenue threshold than before and less of them which leads to a lower close rate. But I’m still not closing at the volume I want or need to be a top performer. My contact reach rate is lower than other top performers BUT when my close rate was high none of this mattered.

Adding HOM to True Sell always initially spikes my sales success and then levels out.
Just looking at true sell itself I used to feel the sale was closed on the call, I had an ability to shift people. With True Sell now I can tell it enhances my presentation, my ability to respond-but it’s too much talking, it’s not making a difference.

I feel my True Sell helped tremendously with learning the ropes and some initial momentum, it also definitely helps with presentation, personability, charisma etc but can’t tell it’s doing much now in the way of sales effectiveness and closing and certainty nothing in the way of emotional intelligence and capacity in a difficult sales position. Possibly recon as I dig deep around this next level.
All I know is empirically my experience and skills are improving and am seeing some stabilization in consistency but not the kind of success and close ratio I am looking for and believe me I work hard af, study, get coaching and doing everything in my power to address all factors I see and don’t see.

I’m doing a little wash out now and will update but my original critics of True Sell still stand.
I’ll state here

  1. It lacks real power- power is necessary for sales
  2. It has engagement and direction to keep the convo flowing but it could use more leadership
  3. I find myself ‘forward selling’ on true sell to much- convincing/ pushing. In fact running the sub makes m more likely to do this
  4. Emotional disruption and fight or flight response kills sales, especially when pipelines are low scarcity and desperation, or hitting quotas, bonuses or performance goals are on the line. I don’t experience True Sell helping with this, this is key to sales effectiveness. Emperor Black helped with this tremendously when i stacked it.
  5. Same as above but more specific- killer instinct-cool under pressure.
  6. Enjoying selling! The process, and keeping spirits up when things are working. A way to turn around a rut.
  7. Confidence, Confidence, confidence, certainty, certainty, certainty. Not nearly enough authentic confidence and certainty- that’s the radioactive power that seals deals, any wavering, or fear, to a stakeholder can be emotional contagion. Calm relaxed confidence.
  8. Wealth, sales manifestation, consistently.
  9. My vision of what’s possible is honestly completely crushed currently. This will be addressed through time off, internal work, and perhaps others subs- but it be nice to have this in True Sell- never lose, faith, drive, or effort towards what’s possible and positive manifestations to re-enforce that

To be honest I’m a little torn- because overall I’m in a great position and I believe subs and true sell have contributed to my bringing out this success in my self and on the other hand, I’m disappointed, if I run a sub focused on selling and am in action 40+ hours a week focused exclusively on that I want to see myself evolving, growing, winning, and succeeding WAY more often than I am. For reference I consistently do 20K weeks, other tops reps do 40K+ and others do 80K+. I have had 50K weeks I want to be consistently doing 40K+ weeks minimum and hit 80k+ often. I see the value in simply comparing my own progress to myself as well of course.

Now maybe all this things are in True Sell and my recon is having me recognize them will re-assess after a couple days off

@SaintSovereign
I’m adding this here because it’s more relevant.

(I know I’ve been complain’y about not finding my fit in performance and stack but realize I’m running HOM! That’s why I’m so ambitious and not satisfied with where I am at-honestly I earn 15x a year from what I did March 2020 when I started subclub so cheers and thanks again for all the awesome tools )

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Perhaps this sub really only shines when paired with one like Ascension.

I’ve heard great reports of that combo.

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True Sell Results:

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Have you experimented with reduced listening time, less exposure to True Sell overall?

If at first it skyrocketed your success, and then since was unaffective, that is a sign to me that you did fantastically with a small amount of subliminal exposure to True Sell but as the loops increased in frequency, and exposure increased with it, results got worse and worse?

Perhaps you only needed a small boost in presentation skills in order to become phenomenally more successful at sales, and it was the complement that the rest of your stack needed, but now you’re overdoing it and taking away from the more important scripting in your stack ie. HOM etc.

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As per stacking with PCC, can you think of a title better than True Sell?

Or would you say that TS/PCC is the GOAT combo?

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Never tried it personally, I don’t know anyone off the top of my head who has yet…

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I’m planning out some stack ideas. Mwahahahaha

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Bruh are you kidding, I did that last night :joy::joy::joy:

I didn’t see that until after I wrote this! Share with us haha

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If you you know.

On an unrelated topic. Anyone notice their mood being on top of the world on QTKS? Could be just the new nootropics I’m testing but could be QTKS as well.

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I’ve said this before on True Sell and
Its even more pronounced on my custom with True Sell core
There needs to be a mechanism to deal with the ‘rejection’ of sales as well as not become reactive/ have an emotional reaction/ fight or flight response- either in the moment or in response to a bad cycle.
Other subs EOG and Alpha subs have sustained/ supported me with this but True Sell seems to have very little mechanism for this outside of the social fluency in the moment at best.

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I have a Ascension/True Sell/PCC custom and it’s like a well balanced st4 title

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Think Sanguine might be what your looking for no? There’s modules as well, that deal with that sorta stuff

What true sell really did for me in the 1 cycle I ran it, was it helped me “sell myself” or the idea of myself in a given situation or context. Be it social, business or whatever.

But I’ve always been more of someone who likes to attract, vs thrill of the chase.

Its why Wanted, and Wanted Black are basically my favourite sub along wiht Khan

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True Sell is great, I believe that should be part of an all encompassing sales sub.
Of course that can be added in a custom or in the stack.

for sure, its a must have in any wealth sub. Including my future custom :slight_smile:

Great perspective!

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