Main Disc. Thread - True Sell ZP (Now Available!)

What true sell really did for me in the 1 cycle I ran it, was it helped me “sell myself” or the idea of myself in a given situation or context. Be it social, business or whatever.

But I’ve always been more of someone who likes to attract, vs thrill of the chase.

Its why Wanted, and Wanted Black are basically my favourite sub along wiht Khan

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True Sell is great, I believe that should be part of an all encompassing sales sub.
Of course that can be added in a custom or in the stack.

for sure, its a must have in any wealth sub. Including my future custom :slight_smile:

Great perspective!

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Im curious to get some feedback on how True Sell the CORE elaborates on TrueSell the Module.

I’m debating whether to have a 3 core stack derived of HoM, RICH and TrueSell

OR Just having a 2 core with True sell as a module

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If you want the full True Sell experience, go for the core. It’s newer and more robust than the module.

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Was leaning towards this, thanks

Going to pair this with RM Ultimate writer for copywriting and Direct Response Marketing

Would True Sell carry over into the written word or is this more geared towards in person sales?

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I’m in sales myself, and I’ve seen it shine mostly in person to person interactions. With that said, I could see it helping the verbage via email or marketing.

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It does help in improving copywriting skills, atleast for me it did.

You can Ask in the true sell zp2 thread

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It helps with marketing and writing, no doubt about it.

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For all of the True Sell warriors out here.

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Actually can’t believe I haven’t tried this yet

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Does this take your communication, conversational, and persuasion skills anywhere close to Sex and seduction?

Obviously aimed more towards other things than blatant seduction but in general conversations are so easy and come so naturally with S&S, also the connections and understanding come and build rapidly, there is often a sense of reconnecting with a long-lost friend even though the people may be totally unknown.

Is this the all-in-one package for your communication, persuasion, conversational, social, and connection skills?

With a focus on closing deals, sales, and business?

In pursuit of any kind of success you also need that magnetism to draw success to you.

I may try this here in the future I was just provided with an opportunity for a high-end sales job with huge commissions which could be the perfect thing for me to test this out and refine my persuasion skills.

Something that really provides you with that subtle confidence that flawlessly compels people, knowing that have the power to totally change someone’s mind. This is true persuasion, being able to steer someone’s emotions very deeply and strike the deal when the tides of excitement are at its highest, in such a way that it is almost impossible to reject.

For this purpose right now, I would go with the new mogul. The subtle confidence mentioned comes first from knowing that you have the ability to change your own mind, from my experience with true sell, it’s best paired with something that gives you the internal confidence/conviction. True Sell helps with the technical skills and persuasiveness, but without the inner conviction those words come out without the sub communication nessicary to truly influence.

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However, @Azriel is probably the most experienced with True Sell on the forum so I’d refer to him for a final verdict.

Yes but not quite. I tested S & S and it is not on par with that for romantic purposes although it massively helps romance.

True Sell is fantastic when there is a clear goal or outcome in mind. Conversation, communication, and persuasion is incredible in the space of leading something towards a particular result, outcome, or commitment. It’s also incredible for presenting ones best self, and ‘performing’ for people in a way there compelled by. For sales job, interview, business development- I can’t recommend it enough.

It also makes socializing much easier but honestly sometimes it feels like I’m 10,000 steps ahead of everyone socially on it, and it takes some effort to slow down.

Agreed with @Niles this sub is internally neutral, except for maybe coming to own your own charisma and entering flow states socially. It has you aware of others perceptions of you and how to steer them and without internal confidence that can be derailing or make one self conscious, it pairs really well with Alpha subs or subs that generate internal confidence for this reason

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How about orating a speech, being a public speaker on podium for a large audience, feeling the audience knowing what is appropriate to say within the setting.

Good politicians have this way about them that is also persuasion they have to convince their supporters of the vision they have for the country.

Persuasion is really in anything. Life is all about selling yourself in many ways.

I probably think True Sell would make you understand this on a deep level. But I have yet to use it.

This might become my favourite program because I really love people and communication.

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What I noticed with S&S is the ability to guide the conversation towards romance and seduction.

Very refined conversational skills.

Being able to kind of smoothly and subtly guide a conversation in a certain direction is a huge part of being a talented conversationalist…

So I was wondering if this program had that as well but more along general lines than merely seduction and romance.

Small talk being able to hold up a conversation anywhere about anything and make it interesting exciting fun and compelling

I consider this a huge part of why I love to socialise it’s about carrying the conversation and making fun of it

It’s an important social trait people will often love you for and like to hang out with your for because you are never a bore!

They knew with you there is always “something” going on, always excited always enthused

Sometimes even electrifying in your speech

I don’t know but I feel like True Sell probably has aspects of this one way or another

I would like to develop this within myself towards exceptional levels and where diplomacy is concerned nobility in my ways, humane and honorable in all things.

Keeping to my word and always clearly communicating my honest intentions.

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What have people experienced with this sub. I was thinking of adding this to my custom since I kind of have to do my own sales now.

But whenver I bought a business course and they had a sales script I just sounded robotic.

Does this sub make sales effortless and flowy?