No, apart from reality checks during the day, I don’t do anything special.
However, I have had lucid dreams from time to time. Very rarely and randomly. So it’s not something I’m completely unfamiliar with.
Have this sub running since more than a year, including the previous version.
No result yet, so I made 10 day-break (for obvious stonewalling).
Now back and 1 week into it, still nothing.
No better dream recall, no more vividness in my dreams.
(If you wonder, of course I have a dream journal, set intention before sleep, do WBTBs, Reality Checks throughout the day and meditate daily since several years)
Did your quality of sleep improve?
I still need to watch the Netflix show. I found Lucifer through the Sandman comics
If you asked me, no, my sleep is unchanged.
I wake up naturally 4-6 times each night, no matter how tired, late or drunk I am.
At least this has one positive, I don’t need an alarm clock for my WBTBs.^^
How is your sleep in general? Try adding a micro loop of Paragon Sleep. If that doesn’t help, you can refund Paragon Sleep within 30 days. You’ll know if it’s working pretty quick.
If you’re a daily meditator, use that.
And understand that your dreaming, in general, may work in unique ways.
Please, please, please don’t make the mistake of saying ‘still nothing’.
That often indicates a lack of imagination.
You expected it to work in one way; and it may be working in another way.
You expected the postman to drop your letters by the front door, and you may be ignoring a growing mountain of letters at the back door.
What do I mean by this?
I’m running Revelation of Dreams right now. And I’m a notorious ‘non-altered states’ type. I haven’t had the stereotypical vivid dreams or lucid dreams.
But I’ve noticed something. It gelled in my mind today, actually.
Dreaming doesn’t start or end. Dreaming is continuous. It’s happening right now. I don’t mean this in the sense that ‘Life is all a dream’. That’s not what I’m talking about.
What I’m saying is that if you watch your mind, you’ll notice that it has altitudes. Just like a body of water.
You’ve probably seen charts like this one before:
Depending on your depth/altitude in the water, you’ll see different life forms and you’ll also feel different currents, flows, and movements of the water.
Those areas of the water are all still there whether you happen to visit them or not. (Just like all of the radio stations are still simultaneously broadcasting right now, whether you tune into them or not.)
Dreaming is a certain range of depth in your mind/consciousness. It’s always there. Always happening. For many people, sleep and letting go is what enables them to access those levels of consciousness more easily.
But as a meditator, you’ve made the conscious choice to go diving even when you’re not sleeping.
So stay open and don’t be too attached to one particular preconception of what it’s ‘supposed to be like’. Notice the movements and flows of consciousness that you are experiencing.
It’s going to be unique to you.
Notice the shifts and variations.
Be openly aware of the various ecosystems, their characteristics and their denizens.
Okay, I’m going on long. That’s definitely one of the effects of my current stack.
I’m not saying any of this as ‘the answer’. Just trying to be clear and to the point. You don’t have to follow any of this. But see what you think. And what comes to your mind.
When you combine meditation with mental and consciousness phenomena, you get the benefit of choice and you also get the burden of choice. Not total choice of course. But choice often becomes a somewhat more prominent feature in your explorations. So use it.
Thank you, these are some pretty damn wise words. Have to think about this, so no quick more answer.
Thanks again
Thanks back.
Thanks for the advice, today I purchased that Sub and check it out
Tonight I had a spontaneous, pretty long and vivid lucid dream!
What I also did, though, was a Body Code-healing (at Etsy.com) just a day before.
Don’t know if this is the reason, but in the evening I felt pretty confident that I will experience a LD soon.
I listened to RoD 3 times a few weeks back. Needed a break from Emperor Black. The number of dreams really increased. What’s interested is I intended to marry someone to help in a certain situation she’s having. However one of my dreams it became really clear this is not the way to go.
Solid title, I have to figure how to work this into my stack on a regular basis.
Marrying someone for any reason other than an unstoppable love for the person is usually not the way to go. Glad RoD showed you something true for you
I have completed my first cycle with RoD solo. The results are very good.
The ability to recognise when you are dreaming has increased greatly with RoD.
After that it is easy to influence the dream. It doesn’t work every night, but very often now.
The number of dreams you can remember has also increased significantly. As I have already written, the dreams are consistently pleasant. I haven’t had a nightmare since RoD.
The quality of sleep is also better with RoD. This is probably due to the Paragon Sleep script that comes with RoD.
All in all, a great success. I will use RoD again in the future if these abilities decrease.
Hi,
honestly I am in a process of stopping more and more of all these practices, including meditation.
Don’t „feel“ it, don’t see or experience any benefit.
No lucid dreams despite a short, random one each and every few months, no dreams I would call „spiritual“ by any means, no feel of progressing in any way on the „path“.
I continue to listen to a new Sub I bought (Alchemist Core) and play around with magickal rituals from the Gallery of Magick, just for fun.
But I quit any „serious“ spiritual practice and feel better and somehow more free than the past few years where I meditated and read spiritual books and did all that AP- and LD-related stuff each day and night.
Kind of reminds me of that teaching from the Buddha.
Sounds like you may be adding some much needed looseness.
Yes, seems so.
Instead of doing what „might be expected“ (from a spiritual seeker) one should do what feels right.
Not that easy, after years of doing, to simply allow and admit that it feels better to stop doing.
I understand for some years already that spirituality is not about neglecting life and following strict rules imposed by yourself, but to embrace life and enjoy whatever you like.
I’m now just living and keep a sense of thankfulness and humility in my mind, without „expressing“ it any more „formally“ (by meditation etc.).
I’ll see where this journey takes me.
You’ve been meditating for years, your mind will not simply forget that.
Your mind and being will continue to process and integrate in line with the patterns that you’ve established.
Songs, once learned, are not easily forgotten.
What’s more likely is that your definition of what it means to ‘practice meditation’ will evolve and transform. It will be more optimally and organically aligned with your experiences, your needs, and your nature.
But that’s just a guess.
I had a very interesting experience with RoD. I had a lucid dream. Then I decided to wake up and I did wake up, but in the next dream. I thought I had arrived in reality, but it was just another level. It was only when I finally woke up in the morning that I realised it was also a dream. It was like the different levels in the film Inception.
It makes you think about how real our world really is.
Maybe we are all dreaming.