3 cycles before expressing the product?
It’s not going to be the same for you. My results are not to be taken as what’s to be expected for you. You’ll have to use your own experience to gauge your results.
I got a lot of the optimism, and respect from others right away. But due to whatever programs I had, had to be changed or overcome in order for the women checking me out showed up.
There are plenty of people who get results after 1 or 2 listens. I’m sure I did too. I used to get trailer effect results as have been reported by others, and my experience was that after that, then a title starts to dig in and do the inner overhaul. So that’s why lots of people recommend staying with titles longer. Others can get the results right away and may switch titles more often. But it just takes a person being honest with themselves about where they are at and what they want.
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would be nice if we where just input output machines like the ecu in your car, but there’s lots of factors in the psyche that determine what the effects are of the suggestions in said product. so it feels more like a pinball machine really, at least in my case 
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This is from the copy, and I’ve been experiencing that. Others, may not have to as much. Depends on the individual is all. So for me it took a little time for the seduction aspects to start showing up. I still have a ways to go. But everything else is kicking in for me and Primal is one of my favorite titles now. It’s not a healing title but that’s how I experienced it this time, my first 3 cycles. My first run of 4 cycles previously, it was more about that not caring what others think and being grounded. This time a little healing. Also did NE this time.
Moreover, PRIMAL delves deep into the psyche, eradicating the chains of limiting beliefs and fears, including the dread of rejection, that have long held sway over your potential. It’s about unlocking a realm of boundless romantic and seductive prowess, a landscape where you are free to explore and express the full magnitude of your charisma and desire.
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Had an interesting Primal attraction moment. I wouldn’t say it was sexual. Just interesting.
Gave someone a ride to an appointment. I was waiting and this cougar walked out. I didn’t pay much attention to her. She didn’t appear to take any notice of me either. But as she was almost out of site walking to her car, my attention was drawn to her. Just in that second it was like she felt something, and turned around and we looked right at each other. I’m not saying she was into me, but there was some sort of “attraction”. Maybe our “auras” reached out and touched each other or something. I dunno. But I just remained non-chalant which was nice. Nothing came of it, just one of those interesting moments.
My first instinct is that it wasn’t a woman I’d try to bag. My story would be that she seems like more of a proper woman who wouldn’t be interested in entertaining a younger man.
Oh, I guess what I was doing was just vibing with myself. Non-chalant, quite mind, just had my attention on a subtle pleasant feeling.
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It’s funny, I’d been planning out my stack (will washout from the current one near to the end of this month).
I’d been thinking about Emperor, since it basically ticks all the boxes; wealth building, alpha/masculine development, sex & dating, action-taking and character.
But I’ve been through a brutal 8 months and come out of it pretty beaten-up and with lingering mild depression and just a loss of passion, motivation and enjoyment in life.
I’ve got stuff I urgently need to be getting on with (entrepreneurship, fitness, and general life overhaul), but felt stuck and paralysed.
To address this, I’ve been running a custom with DR: Regeneration and Love Bomb for the last 4 months or so, albeit in an overloaded stack for most of that time. This month I’ve dropped the other two customs and I’m just running the DR: Reg and LB custom solo until my washout at the end of this month.
I’ve spend a lot of time in the last couple of months journalling, reflecting and planning.
Thinking about my goals, strengths and weaknesses, issues and solutions and so forth.
Somewhere along the line, I stumbled across this thread and was reminded of the existence of Primal.
And found that I’m drawn to it more than I think any other title right now (aside from Paragon, which I consider an essential and will be running no matter what).
“Embrace complete nonchalance and enjoyment in all activities, especially social ones. Cultivate an attitude of ease and pleasure in everything you do, making your life a series of enjoyable moments.”
“Foster relaxed optimism and a sense that all is well, creating a life characterized by positivity and hope. Approach every situation with a mindset that sees opportunities for happiness and success.”
I feel this is EXACTLY what I am craving right now, ESPECIALLY the second quoted objective (“Foster relaxed optimism and a sense that all is well, creating a life characterized by positivity and hope. Approach every situation with a mindset that sees opportunities for happiness and success”).
Plus living life more adventurously, the scripting around fun, joyfulness, relaxation, social dynamics mastery, wit, sexiness, confidence, masculine development and dominance.
Who’s currently running this title and/or had great results from it? 
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Primal is a great, even foundational title as I see it. Your post made me remember what I wrote e about it after running it for a cycle.
Primal Rocks
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Yeah, I remember a post I saw, by @SaintSovereign or @Fire I think, saying something along the lines of “Primal is not a seduction sub; it’s primarily an Alpha sub that also has the side benefit of improving seduction”.
I was searching for that post to seek confirmation and to confirm that it said what I seem to remember it said, but I haven’t been able to find it (probably because I can’t remember exactly what it said, which makes using the search function more difficult lol).
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This has been my feeling when I read the product copy. In fact, the whole of the post you made of which I’ve just quoted a fraction. Really resonated with what I see, as well as what I know I need to work on in myself 
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My first title and something I wish I’d run longer. It just clicks. Had a threesome with my then girlfriend and a girl we just met after my second week with primal. Back then I was running full loops (primal/accession).
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I feel you; I think half of my SubClub journey has been reflecting on subs I’ve run and realising how much I might have changed already if I’d just stuck to them for 6+ months instead of hopping to another after a couple of months 
I think I’ve learned my lesson now. Better late than never 
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Yeah, sounds dope. Most importantly sounds like fun.
Primal + Daredevil + Art Of Joy and happiness
I gotta run primal at some point, those exact quotes resonate and also the authenticity and masculinity aspects.
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Feels like a baller summer stack
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Yep, except summer never ends 
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I think I might need to rerun this…
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come join us on the dark side. We have cookies. lol
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Weirdly Primal made me a better trader
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Because you trust more in your gut feeling?
Like the interconnectedness of all things?
Instead of following pure logic, you let yourself feel what your gut received from the universal energetic field?
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Part that, gut instinct, risk taking. It gets me more in contact with myself and that instinctual part.
I’m less spiritual in this sense, wherever these nudges comes from, Primal helps me feel them a bit more 
You’re right on the money there.
That’s what I believe is the reason why I have positive effects.
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I’d actually been thinking to run Primal alongside the upcoming RICH Trader; there was a bunch of scripting/objectives in Primal’s copy that made me think it could actually complement trading (and a trading sub) pretty well.
Definitely the measured risk taking and being more fearless, but also this one “Approach every situation with a mindset that sees opportunities for happiness and success”.
As long as you have a solid methodology and you’re doing your risk analysis and whatnot, it seems like this approach would be really helpful
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