How many cycles of khan?
Three cycles stage one, so I guess I don’t have the complete picture yet as I haven’t moved to others stages yet
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What do you prefer? Have you tried Primal Seduction?
I’m not too sure between primal romance and Wb yet, though I’m leaning towards primal romance due to the relationship healing it’s bringing me that I needed (but didn’t know I needed it).
Wanted black is good but I seem to alienate people on it by playing the coquette which isn’t always the best thing to do.
Subs like WB and khan are edgy imo, meaning they have sharp edges, and so they’re best played only when U can afford to have a presence that is polarising.
Because I want to run all stages of khan right now, stacking two polarising subs without a ‘smoothening’ sub like primal romance might alienate too many people either due to my own recon, lack of calibration or just too much raw sexual energy (like what a stack of khan and wb would do).
Therefore khan with primal romance seems to be the perfect balance energetically as opposed to khan and wb (right now atleast)
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@JCDenton you ran both khan and primal right?
Can you elaborately compare the two in your experience and results?
Comparison of the two from my own experiences:
KHAN (long time usage, ca. ~1.5 years):
- This is an “advanced to expert” levels title
- Less social than Primal, because focused on dominating and making people submit
- Always very serious about everything (this became a problem for me as this seriousness was surpressing a major part of my true personality)
- Dominance at all costs (which can become a huge ego problem)
- Invincibility feeling definitely there and feels amazing
- Manifests women “who want you”
- Massive inner status increase
- Strong sexual presence (very similar to Primal Seduction ZP V2)
- Wealth results only from Stage 1 where it removes blockages of your status levels and where it fixes your beliefs about success in general
- This title should not be used by people who are ungrounded and have not yet built a base of treating other people with compassion. If you lack general social skills and human decency, this title will turn you into a “jerk” or “asshole” who might act ruthlessly and probably repent it later.
- Not a good title for business. While the massive status increase will help, the “dominance at all costs” aspect will be counter productive in most cases for collaborating with people, especially those who are higher up the food chain than you yourself. You will not win them over by dominance, but by charisma.
- Overall, this is a title to use when you are serious about personal growth and pushing through obstacles through force and willpower. This title will not do much for you if you are sitting at home as its primary goal is to build a harem empire and just be the “sexual boss”
- Stage 1, just like with EoG, should be used by everyone to remove success blocks. Stage 4 I would recommend only for those who are not focussing on career and wealth but already have it and now want to build a sexual empire and harem and enjoy it. However that enjoyment might be shortlived, as KHAN will always push you to take everything serious and go after more and more until you conquer the whole world (the mentioned “dominance at all costs” effect).
Primal (used only for 2 months):
- This is a “beginner” title
- Better at reducing approach anxiety than KHAN
- More fun and outgoing
- Less dominant than KHAN
- Feels sexually more at ease and sexual energy directed at fun and self-expression (versus KHAN who uses sexual energy for dominance)
- No direct women manifestation, the women whom you encounter are just attracted to your primal presence
- Pushes you to approach women better than KHAN does
- Less “primal sexual” aura than original Primal Seduction ZP V2 and less than KHAN
- This title is great for personal sexual liberation and expressing your true sexual self uninhibited
- Overall, this is a title to use when you want to have fun in expressing your true sexual self. A nice addition to any general seduction and party stack like SSX, PS, PN, Wanted, WB, Daredevil and similar
- I am not sure why Sub Club team mentioned that the new Primal script is so much longer than the original one, it seems rather more focussed than the many topics that KHAN Stage 4 covers.
Ideally, someone who wants to make the whole journey of sexual expression with just these two titles, would go like this:
KHAN Stage 1 → Primal → KHAN Stage 2 → KHAN Stage 3 → KHAN Stage 4 → KHAN Stage 4 + Primal
I have never combined KHAN Stage 4 and Primal at the same time, so not sure what this combo will create. Probably a less serious and “more social KHAN”?
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Brilliant comparison, thanks for detailed comment.
How much has khan overall improved your wealth situation?
When you mention it manifests women who want you, are they close to your ideal type or just random women who want you, because i have some dating specifics.
Guess i could mix it in with heartsong or PR.
What do you think of khan and kb combination, i might try it together with drred as well tho 3 multistagers might be a lot
It removed blockages preventing the levels of wealth that were mine naturally anyways.
The status increase additionally helps with negotiating higher salaries and simply demanding more money from people for your time and your services.
At the same time your monthly expenses may go up too, since as a KHAN you cannot live like a bum but it must be a nice place that you can fill up with women.
Just random women of all types and different levels of attractiveness who are attracted to you. You decide whether you find them attractive too or not.
If you want to manifest “women who are into you AND who are your specific type”, I think WB is the best title for that. Only to be topped by Heartsong’s soulmate manifestations.
Sure. Both, KHAN and Primal can be perfectly mixed with Heartsong and Primal Romance.
I have been doing this for a long time.
KB 1 should be used by everyone (just like KHAN 1 and EoG 1).
KB 4 is part of my stack as a boosting title and will probably never leave it. I do not get any recon from this due to a lot of energetic prework, so it is a simply a nice extra energy booster for me.
Yes, that is too much.
Do not use more than 1 Multistager in your stack at all times.
KB 1 + KHAN 1 at the same time will generate a massive sexual healing though on all levels.
Adding DR Red would be an overkill with extreme recon levels, even on the new tech. I recommend using these titles one after another.
DR Red for general overall healing, KHAN 1 for healing related to KHAN’s harem success goals, and KB for specifically healing of sexual stuff.
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You guys. For anyone who feels inhibited, stiff or even wishing to fully explore their emotional side and passion. I suggest stacking Primal with Rennesance Man.
This has to be the biggest synregy i’ve ever whitnessed. It will be intense as hell but within that intencity you will grow and develop by the day. Primal by itself did it’s best bringing out the passion, life force and awarness to break free
Rennesance man will push whatever needs to be free out and in the open. It’s duality of the inner child and the adult fully merging and embracing one other. For hardcore overthinkers, introverts such as yours truly. Give those two a go
Edit: And for those who are spiritual and are aware of the power of emotions and how it superseeds even actions and thoughts. This will be the next best thing before upgraded ME gets out
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Just now I’ve starting to think and trying to understand the new tech called NSE/NWE/NRE
I used this title few weeks ago,
And had some lucky things happening…
I’m trying to figure out if it is connected to the new primal or not
Does it contains wealth experience? Or it is just the subliminal experience?
What I’m getting to here is, what Exactly manifestations and experiences can one expect on The New Primal?
Is friends or people inviting you to drinks included?
I had many cool experiences but I’m also using LOA…
Women giving me and buying me drinks guys as well … And free upgrades in different departments
So that’s why I’m asking
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@Benny Primal is about breaking free and being your raw, untamed self which is grounded in confidence, social skills and status. What you are getting is the treatment you were always meant to have.
As for your second question about what to expect. It’s best not to dwell too much on it, over think it and hyper fixate on it. That is not what got you those sweet experiences, being you did. If Primal speaks to you then continue to run it and be the same person who lead to those results
Lastly, if you are new here. You will soon realize that those with the best results are the least actively laser focused on new drops, Upgrades, Explanations and Overthinking things. Wish ya the best
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Have you had any experiences from some of their multistager flagships like khan or dr? Love to hear. @Saiyan4Blue
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Not yet,
Now I’m focusing on KB + Paragon and Wanted with good results.
Women check me out and stuff, where on primal 1 cycle I felt I needed to approach women which got me some results too.
But with minimal experience with primal I don’t remember women checking me out as they do now when using Wanted OG
On Wanted I’m chill and don’t approach much, generally speaking people like me a lot more comparing to baseline… (On Primal they liked me too)
I’ll build my way to Khan and DR
I’ll tell you what I think about KB when I finish it, it will take few months.
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It’s true that over analyzing can hurt the flow of good to ones life
However I do see it as important to figure out what the NWE and NSE included in Primal has to do with (if any):
Getting free upgrades
Meeting new friends
Girls buying me drinks
Guys buying me drinks
Girls buying me expensive dinners
Hotel upgrades
Girl basically seducing herself and encourage herself to have sex with me
And so on
Again all of these things happened to me in the past when I’m using LOA so I’m used to it
But I think Primal gave everything a kick in the right direction too
Anyone else experienced things of that nature?
Btw
No not everything was perfect and had got a lot of rejections too
But overall better experiences
Edit:
As I understand after reading a lot here on the forum:
NWE/NSE in The New Primal and so in other titles like WB will attract status related experiences which can compliment the whole journey!
Meaning getting free upgrades can be related
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@friday Wrote a great review on an older version of Khan
I’m actually surprised there isn’t more Khan reviews given what it’s meant to do.
@JCDenton You mention that this isn’t a title for people who just sit at home. I somewhat disagree. I feel that this belief is what makes stage one so incredibly important. Seems to be that most or a lot guys are stuck because of trauma , shame , regret, indifference, or anything that keeps a guy from growing or progressing.
Also I have said for years that I honestly believe that my life would be a metric fuck ton better if I can be a ruthless asshole or jerk when necessary. A guy can be too nice. It happens so . I’m not saying outright disrespect people but for people such as myself who have struggled their entire lives with not just taking care of themselves first but have also been made to feel and believe that getting a girlfriend , laid , or married was what would fix our life and ills.
I know from experience this is not true at all . Not surprisingly it’s quite literally the exact opposite. Every person I have ever known that was super successful at a job I was at instinctively knew when being a ruthless jerk or asshole was necessary. It was as if they flipped a switch inside of themselves.
I’m tired of trying to be a hero good guy that always feels obligated to do for others and put my mental, emotional, and physical health on the back burner to avoid conflict and make someoneelsehappy fully knowing that this person would never do it for me. . I want to embrace my inner villain
I think there’s something to be said for a guy becoming almost " hyper independent ". It isn’t necessarily a bad thing as it definitely makes attracting high quality women that much easier
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Thanks for sharing that post.
Personally on khan i dont have problem telling the harsh brutal cold truth over some matter when it needs to be said even if it causes discomfort in the social setting, i do want it to sting becuase then it provokes intense contemplation on it and will make them think more about it.
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@friday could you write a longer summary post if u got time on all the transformations, inner and outer results and changes u had from khan an what else did u run with it and how long?
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@JCDenton You mention being serious with Khan? I’m guessing you are saying that there wasn’t any fucking around or wasting time? Just focused?
Hi James,
by “being serious” on KHAN I meant being emotionally serious all the time.
Taking everything that happens serious, not smiling, not joking around, not allowing myself to have some fun here and there, but instead just being focused on conquering and dominating life and pushing through everything and telling yourself that you “can have fun later once the world is conquered”.
Not being able to chill and enjoy the process but always taking life more serious than it should actually be.
KHAN made me way too serious at all times, and while it gave me great progress, I was no longer able to enjoy life itself as a fun exciting adventure.
But who knows, maybe it was my ego processing various stuff and projecting the “you have to be serious in order to be dominant” assumption onto my personality.
This has been my personal experience and others may have different experiences.
Also, this seriousness issue never happened for me with the dominance scripting in ASBR, Primal, WB and PS, so it must have to do with my personal interpretation of the KHAN script.
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Great self reflection on that, for me even tho im tapping more into my natural dominance it still doesnt change my way of not taking life too seriously and joking around, i do enjoy more of a dark and rough sense of humor so khan removed inhibitons around it.
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