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You using that in a primal custom? If so, does it give Primal a slight WB/Wanted vibe?

Yes, it’s just like @Plutus said some time ago.

I’m using it in a WB custom and in another SB custom. I’ve started using it before introducing the WB custom, and it definitely has a Wanted/WB effect. I’m using it with Auric Overdrive module

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that’ll come in my KB4 + WB cuatom :slight_smile:

I’m running Primal and liking it a lot.

I’m curious if anyone has experience with both Primal and Daredevil seperately and cares to share what are the main differences between the two in their experience.

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I listened to both in customs.

They have in my experience different energies, different directions even though the goals aren’t that far apart. With Primal your comfort zone expands, vastly. You know, what’s coming (socially, emotionally) and act forward-looking, intuitively right. Primal feels like a very grounded, smooth operator.

With Daredevil you get the urge to leave the comfort zone. There isn’t much planning ahead, rather (joyfully reckless) experiencing what is coming and handling it in the situation as it unfolds.

Both kill social anxiety but in different ways.


Due to the different directions of the two subs I wouldn’t listen to them at the same time but rather alternating.

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I kinda wanted to run Primal and DD at the same time. But next cycle I’m going to try out Spartan Apex with Primal. It seems like Spartan could be the better pair with Primal, at least for my immediate goals and lifestyle.

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Hello Saint, I feel like it does not matter how often I re-read the descriptions of PRIMAL and of KHAN, I still understand PRIMAL as a “mini version” of KHAN.

It seems that everything that PRIMAL does is also included in KHAN too.

Even when I ask ChatGPT to compare the product descriptions etc., even the AI ain’t able to indentify what there is supposed to be in PRIMAL that is not also in KHAN… ?! :confused:

Can you please kindly tell me what is in PRIMAL that is not also covered by KHAN? I don’t see it. Thank you.

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Primal = Khan on holidays?

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Khan is about tapping into the most socially and sexually domineering version of yourself whilst Primal is about tapping into the most authentic, and socially and sexually alluring version of yourself.
That’s the main difference to me.

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to me ,it seems to be quite similar…… :upside_down_face:

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Perhaps it’s like comparing Phoenix and Dragon Reborn?

I guess to me it seems like Primal would be more smooth operator, and Khan would be dominance.

The walk change on Primal is very noticeable, my body just goes into this very loose carefree state something like this

There’s so many amazing changes, I’ll just mention a couple more:

  • I experienced social anxiety in big crowds completely disappear and instead there’s this calm centered presence and feeling attuned to the surrounding vibe to the extent that I feel like a centerpiece of whatever is going on and from there anything can be created/experienced freely and authentically with complete detachment from any negative self-awareness or outside influence expectations.

  • A very solution oriented mindset, this is an amazing one because it cuts through a lot of negative stuff like negative self talk, procrastinating, doubting, etc.
    Whenever a problem comes up or something practical needs to be done or planned there’s this clarity of mind and simplicity of thought toward achieving the results, a relaxed way of thinking and even an almost playful enjoyment but also with incredible speed in envisioning the different ways to get straight to the goal

Edit: I’m also using Khan Black 1 so the clarity of thought might come from that but the fast positive forward looking solution oriented mindset is 100 percent Primal!

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From my journal:

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It’s a week now, that I feel this huge existential dread. It’s like a fist crushing my solar plexus.

Earlier, I felt like dropping Primal. And then I realized, that’s recon.

Since I felt like dripping Primal and turning back to LB I guess it’s from Primal.

I’ve just ran 10 secs of Primal and hope it gets better.

Sleep is surprisingly good despite this deep fear. I account that to one cycle of Paragon Sleep.

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That’s rough buddy, I wish you the utter best in navigating the recon. You got this! :grin:

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Yea I’m having the struggle with wanting to switch titles now. I have both new LB and new Primal in my stack. But it’s not the fist crushing. Just like this strong want to switch my stack. I don’t even have a certainty on what to switch with so I’m definitely saying it’s recon and I’m gonna stay with it.

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I’ve experienced it on Primal lots of times but every time I got to the conclusion that Primal is exactly what I need. My old patters tried to trick me into giving up on it. It was classical recon; the “lawyer’s game”, where I tried to reason my way out of listening to Primal. Another instance was doing so well on Primal that those old patterns attempted to trigger self-sabotage in me and I almost gave up on Primal.

No matter what, push through as it’s definitely title you “should” run. Classical recon indicates that the sub is doing deep, essential work that will be the most beneficial to you once it’s “completed”. I see it myself now, enjoying Primal to the fullest.

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I think this is going to be my next sub. :star_struck:

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How is your dark side more dear to your hearth? Is your heart dark/evil?