Main Disc. Thread - The NEW Limitless (2024 -- Now Available -- Free Upgrade!)

To me, this is a variation of the ‘AI will obviate current professions’ argument.

People make this argument about every innovation or invention that occurs. Going back to movable type printing presses, to books and writing before that, to wheels before those, and to fire before that.

I think that redefining the context of a given process does not render all previous methods of that process obsolete. In general and at best, it increases the range of available options and the scale of what can be achieved.

People mistakenly assume that they are going to therapists to ‘get answers’; but that’s not the central contribution of therapy. You’re going to therapy to experience a helping relationship.

We benefit from those relationships not because of some weakness that needs to be expunged or overcome, but because, similar to individual Lego blocks, it is our nature to find and express greater meaning within bonds of connection and attachment.

As such, whether we feel imperiled and in jeopardy or whether we feel that we are thriving and successful, there will always be a place for people who approach interaction and connection with intention, skill, and ethical discernment. These will always be the therapists and the healers. Trustworthy companions along the journey.

Not just about ‘fixing’ something.

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Even vinyl LPs/records still have a core fan base.

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@James when I executed both BL and SB I felt like a god. Now imagine if you an old man like me stacks SB with Limitless.

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Hey !!! SC subs dont make you arrogant man what you talking about ?. If this gentleman you mentioned was already arrogant then perhaps it magnifies this trait when he was having his verbal tiffany.

I never said that. Reread my post.

Ahhh sorry brother.

I think this is just @RockyHandsome s aka Honeymosters aka a lot more usernames I can’t remember style of humor.
He wanted to add an disclaimer about this, bet he forgot.

Could be the reason.

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Vinyl is growing, projected to grow further and outselling the CD in units. Great market.

I wholeheartedly agree.
Subs are a great tool, but can’t replace the human component. We have that here through the forum, yet, having a specialist that helps you reflect, showing you your blindspots can enhance and speed up the whole process.
Especially when you’re seriously down, can’t keep a regular listening schedule etc.

My goal is still, as a midrange goal, to start a coaching business. I consider using subs (if the client speaks English) then. But we know, that the, by far, biggest part of customers is at most lurking in the forum, not using it for active consultation with more experienced users. And I’d guess, that there are many out there, not even lurking, just using the subs.
And, yes I know, that it’s not done with “Here, buy this subs and listen to it religiously”. That the person must understand the basics of subconsciousness, taking action, etc.
And that’s why I’d guess, that subs would work wonders in the context of coaching and therapy. When you have an experienced sub user at your side, expplaining the basics, encouraging you to do all thatwhat is necessary. That kicks you in the butt when it’s appropriate.
Someone you can’t escape as easily as just not visiting the forum, because you’re paying him and are in a contract with him.

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ZP is particular but no argument from me it’s the best version of what I’ve seen at sub club.

I may have asked this before but still not exactly clear on what the above means though. Is it not this a limitation rather than a form of honoring free will?

Does this mean the limitless potential that is already inside of everyone, so there is no limit -it just comes from within… Or does this mean ZP enhances whatever current conditioning one already has but doesn’t add anything new? Does it mean that ZP can never transform or bring to bear what was not already pre-existing, so its a better strength augmenter than a way to fill the gaps etc. Which is why we can’t ‘lie’ to ZP. Said simpler-what does ‘what is already inside one’ actually mean ?

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Yes I had the same question when I read this

I interpret it as Yes all the greatness we could ever wish for is already inside of us all. I like to think of it as cloud cover blocking the sun. Reading self help books and affirmations is like taking a drill to the cloud cover. ZP is like taking an auger to the cloud cover. Sometimes too much light being let in all at once can cause fear upheaval, hence the micro loop suggestion.

Cloud cover being a metaphor for stuck negative energy, fear, anger, shame, guilt etc. that distorts our view of the world. The more we chip away at the cloud cover the more high energy greatness is free to shine forth.

You can’t lie to ZP means that it’s going to reveal the greatness within basically. Perhaps that not the absolute truth but it’s a belief that serves me.

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Whats the focus like compared to Beyond Limitless ?

To be limited less is easy and hard your chest have to be honest all the time to all people to yourself for almost dot, that’s what I learned from 15 minutes of limitless

Have a nice day, your friend Matt

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No, it means your expression to the script is uniquely yours because you are all unique individuals. If you run Limitless — which, like all Zero Point titles has nothing but incredibly positive scripting — then start acting arrogant, you already possessed that trait and the script didn’t “install” it, because ZP helps you express who YOU are.

There’s this outdated idea that your subconscious mind operates as a dumb computer that just “runs whatever script” is offered to it, when in actuality, the conscious mind plays a strong role since the part of the conscious mind that takes action doesn’t have to respond to the impressions being sent by the subconscious.

How do you know, Saint?

Every time someone did something wrong that harmed you and you chose to take the higher moral path even though you were raging inside and wanted revenge, the conscious mind took control over the impulses of the subconscious and directed that energy elsewhere.

Likewise, if you run Limitless and the moment you feel a sense of intellectual power and proceed to act arrogant, that was a trait that already existed within you and you are choosing to express that, as everyone knows how to avoid being rude and arrogant.

To create true action, the inner and the outer must be aligned, hence why one experiences recon. The subconscious responds to the script with fear or anxiety because you’re trying to break habits that have been ingrained within you not even as a result of your own actions, but your own genes and ancestral history are also contributing, just as science has begun to realize.

When you attempt to change that, the conscious mind is now trying to exert control over the subconscious, which responds with fear or frustration because change is indeed scary for many people.

What we call “flow factor” is based upon how willing a person is to address inner issues and initiate direct and conscious change. That’s what ZP is all about. Directed, focused change as decided upon by your conscious mind.

This holds true even in these “new age” ideas, many of which are retellings of timeless ideas from older religions. There are individuals quick to rush here and start debating whether subliminal audio goes against the “will of God,” or that recon is actually “the soul itself responding” or whatever.

But the simple fact is, in these doctrines, the human body is the current instrument of the soul, a creative principle of sorts connected directly to the creative source which incarnates for [insert reason here, since everyone has an idea of why].

Regardless, if true, would that not indicate that the physical experience is just as important as the inner experience since both experiences are deeply interconnected and informs the other?

However one tries to approach subliminal use, the response to a title is uniquely yours. Obviously, you’ll see similarities between results since it’s a focused script, but no one responds to a title in the exact same way, and to deny otherwise diminishes the uniqueness of each individual human.

We’ve noticed that other subliminal producers, especially those trying to enter the scene are creating absurdly long scripts, in the hundreds of pages at times and it seems that this response is the producer attempting to create a definitive “success state” as determined by the producer.

Our method is different, as we are attempting to create a method of script writing that removes the producer from the equation and allow the user to have as much choice as possible, since there’s no way that we could write a long script that would appeal to large groups of people since we are all different.

The only way to accomplish this goal is to write in a way that respects and honors the individual. On the flip side, the individual must OWN their flaws and consciously decide to overcome them.

Thus, you cannot lie to Zero Point, because you are the zero point — that is what the name means.

You are the Zero Point, you are the instrument of change. And you cannot lie or hide from yourself, especially if you’re going to use a tool that provides accelerated growth.

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This.

I’d only add that it is not revealing anything, you are. It’s just a script, no different from the other stimuli you encounter each day.

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I have to disagree with this! ZP has helped me to do things other stimuli haven’t. Are you being overly humble, @SaintSovereign ? :joy:

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the football man
the basketball buddy
the alien friend
the friendly postman

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No, I am telling the absolute truth. I’m not prone to humility for the sake of humility. I humble myself to avoid even thinking of taking credit for people’s hard work. The sub may have helped but the fact remains that you are still the one taking action every single day and dealing with the complexities of life in a conscious manner.

No matter how many times a person thanks us for our products, we will not take credit for their work, especially since we know the simplistic nature of how Zero Point works and what surprises us is how much a “normal person” can accomplish with just a bit of inspiration.

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For a long time he was Blackadder