Tear! The demons… they are everywhere. Must… kill them all!
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NO PRISONERS! NO MERCY!
As you said brother : )
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My new stack is this + WTP
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Can you share why if you don’t mind?
Hi @SaintSovereign, good day and thanks for the all the great subs. I wanted your views if stacking Primal is ok with new khan, or is that too much stack or contradicting in any way. I am currently running primal and phoenix Dr. Interested to add new khan
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Does this upgraded version uses NSE? It is not mentioned like in Stark Black copy. Does it include New Wealth, New Romance, New Learning Experiences?
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Why I think Khan suits me over Emperor (Abridged)
Khan - Copy
From the very beginning, even the copy of Khan drew me in on a level that the other subs, including Emperor, didn’t. I did a lot of research and found people saying INTJ (me) = Emperor and stuff like that, but I couldn’t help myself in the end and chose Khan. I got energy just reading about it and it felt like “the one” out of the major archetypes.
Emperor - Copy
When I read Emperor’s old copy, I knew intellectually that it should fit well and the feedback from the forum seemed to back that up. I just didn’t feel it at all. I mean from the box art to the words to reading about it. It didn’t stir my interest at all.
Khan - Experience
I ran K1-K4 one stage each. K2 was very hard for me. I was running it solo @ two loops and that might have contributed to the craziness. I had days where I was actually scared to press the play button, no joke. Yet despite that, I at least finished it and made it through the rest of the stages.
Exactly once on K2 and once on K4 I had this moment where I felt like I stepped fully into reality and the present moment. It’s really beyond that – I still haven’t found the words to describe it but I actually felt like I was reality. I’ve only had that experience on Khan out of all the subs I’ve tried at this point. Clearly there’s something deep going on there but I haven’t explored it enough and I have no idea what triggered those states.
EDIT: And like I mentioned earlier in the thread, I just feel damn good on Khan when I’m not dealing with recon or headaches. Like really really good. Smooth, grounded, heavy, and it’s easy to flow and just kind of do my thing and have people follow along. I’m naturally an intense person and I spend a lot of time pushing that shit down so I don’t blow up on people or argue all the time. On Ascension and Emperor that anger comes up quickly. Khan smooths it out and I feel like I can just do my thing, no worries, no unnecessary intensity. But I also feel like people are a bit more hesitant to look at me or interact with me than they already are normally. And that kind of sucks sometimes.
Emperor (NSE) - Experience
I never tried the old Emperor for aforementioned reasons, but when I saw the new tech and that it was the only alpha sub updated (I was on Ascension around that time) I decided to give it a shot. Many people in the discussion thread were reporting good things, and there seemed to be a focus on grit which I thought was appropriate to my situation.
I have no other way to describe my experience other than a loud voice shouting at me inside my head to stop fucking around with what I was doing and focus exactly on where I wanted my life to go and accept nothing less. It was unrelenting, and LOUD. And let me be clear that I wasn’t hearing voices. It was like an internal dialogue except no discussion, only a one-sided shouting match. That was most likely my will completely asserting itself.
Khan - Feeling
I think I’m starting to need a new vocabulary to describe my subliminal experience. Things are getting a bit weird for me, in a good way, but it’s just not what I would have expected or even understood at the beginning of my journey here. I’m just going to say it:
Listening to the Khan track itself feels like I’m slipping into a velvet skin-tight suit for my brain. Even though it’s the same water track as the others, it hits completely different for me. It’s a very distinct feeling. The particular sound of the water feels soooo good in my mind and ears. It feels like I’m coming home when I play it.
Emperor - Feeling
And this is what I love about NSE. Even in my worst K2 moments I pushed on despite my pain. And since I started subclub last February I have never missed a listening day. Not one. But the recon I got from Emperor and the highly intuitive nature of NSE made it abundantly clear that I should stop. I have it marked on my calendar – my listening day was supposed to be 12/1 and I literally couldn’t make myself press the play button, so I skipped that day and stopped the stack. I couldn’t do it. I physically. couldn’t. press. the. button. I knew unequivocally I had to STOP. It wasn’t a mental choice, I just had to.
Why I'm not worthy
I’m not worthy of either because I haven’t put in enough time or taken enough action to benefit from Khan. I have no social life and I don’t plan on building one here. I’ve definitely given up on finding a girlfriend. I see Khan’s effect clearly at my job (I teach a huge range of people in a variety of settings and class sizes from HS/University students - 80 year olds) since it’s heavily people-based. But the job itself isn’t something a khan would do, and I’ve recognized that it’s just not a good time right now. My experience tells me if I go back through the stages and start socializing I will be fine, but if I don’t do those things I’ll be stuck with a very low ceiling and keep bumping into recon. It’s not worth the stack space or processing power I could give to a more suitable sub.
For Emperor, as I shared earlier, I felt very clearly that it wasn’t the right time, that there may not ever be a right time, and I trust my intuition at this point!
I’ve seen my best results with smaller or more focused subs, and with what I’m doing with my life right now there is no need for something as big and powerful as Khan, nor can I properly take advantage of it anyway. 
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The copy for this is what I always imagined Khan to be. @SaintSovereign said in the past that Khan was always a more expanded version of Emperor over four stages. I’m paraphrasing here
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Started my 203 days journey of Khan.
I’ll redo the whole Khan program, starting from stage 1 for x2 21 days cycle.
Running those new NSE subliminals made me realise I had much more to uncover in my subconscious and I believe Khan can help me with that.
I’ll be stacking it with Genesis: Mogul for the time.
We will see if I can stick to it for 200 days hahaha, it’s a long ass commitment!
Plan and goals :
- Mostly self growth, I want to re-enter in contact with a part of myself that got burried during covid.
- I’ll keep trading every morning.
- I’ll also work on my relationship as I’ve been doing for the past year.
- Keeping my day job as always.
- I’m on keto right now, my plan is to do keto for 4 months while cutting and then adding 1 day of carb refeed per week as I’m working out.
I want to become a more decisive and confident version of myself. Also I want to keep learning to be a better trader!
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@AnswerGroup Does The New Khan contain script from Limitless? Does have nle
For wealth aspect which one is better Stark black or The new Khan
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I recall stacking both Khan stage 4 and Stark back in the Q days they seem to work well.
Out of curiousity does this version have the QL component ?
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I think it depends on how you want to acquire you wealth, bit from reading the sales pages i think Stark Black has more wealth scripting
But as an example, i believe i will acquire more wealth with Khan than Stark Black, just because of my personality and the way my country works
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Made the mistake of running an entire 15 minute loop before bed last. Took me until almost 4am to get to sleep
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Lol, ran my first loop pf st1 this morning I have more energy. That or caffeine I’ll have to see tomorrow.
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wow you are running khan stage 1 James ?
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Regular Khan was great for my relationship, but I only ran ST1. Total Breakdown made me more faithful, grounded, strong, and SEXUAL, bedroom play got a lot more carnal and dominant, i felt really good about myself.
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I refuse to download this until at least after my current cycle is done 
I DID download the new Heartsong since my cycle already has HS in it. So replaced the “old” HS with the new one.
That doesn’t count as sub hopping right? RIGHT?
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This version looks like a juggernaut of a sub wow. Saint mentioned in the Stark Black thread that this version Stage 4 is now the longest script.
Also curious about the added scripting in TB, wonder if it has any parallels the the new Phoenix sub.
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I’m planning out the stack for my next cycle.
Total Breakdown would be good to run with basically ANY of the new Seduction titles, right?
I guess what I mean to ask is, is there any good reason NOT to do TB at a minimum before running the other newer titles?
Running TB for a cycle or two before Primal Nights, for example. No harm there?
Asking because I remember running TB before Wanted before and it seemed to improve Wanted.
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Damn I wish you luck. This new Khan sounds hardcore o_o
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