It would produce such intense recon just out of spite
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What a time to be alive 
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Would Khan not be recommended if you are in a monogamous relationship and were not interested in other women?
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Im in a relationship and im going to run it
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I was correct Khan is 1 of the update 
. Quite happy it is updated.
Will listen to it after 2 more cycles of KB stage 4.
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No. They. Are. Not. 
I will never forget the pain that was stage 2. I saw someone describe Khan as ābecoming the gravity of the situationā ā thatās a really apt way to describe how I feel on K4. Even I, introvert, have no problems commanding everyoneās full and close attention. Socializing/talking/leading still takes my energy but I just feel so grounded and cool and everybody just kind of falls in line.
Recon still gets me eventually, though, and I definitely owe it to myself to redo the stages at some point with proper action.
My intuition and experience shows me that Khan suits me over Emperor, but Iām not worthy of either one right now 
Good luck everyone. 
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FUcā¦ I am gonna have to postpone Khan ST1 until I finish 1 cycle of A Stark Black Reality most likely. I want to run and enjoy Stark Black and fully understand it before I mix the two.
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thats what I thought right? : )
how blessed are we to witness
the Khan : Love and War
Im so hyped all day!
Best drop ever!
Also the art sdfiuhswfaecjifo
I eat.
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Hm new Khan you say 
Kind of makes me want to run a full run again but it will have to wait a little while, and I also just a month back finished a full run of the old one again.
Excellent work Fire and Saint 
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Tear! The demonsā¦ they are everywhere. Mustā¦ kill them all!
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NO PRISONERS! NO MERCY!
As you said brother : )
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My new stack is this + WTP
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Can you share why if you donāt mind?
Hi @SaintSovereign, good day and thanks for the all the great subs. I wanted your views if stacking Primal is ok with new khan, or is that too much stack or contradicting in any way. I am currently running primal and phoenix Dr. Interested to add new khan
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Does this upgraded version uses NSE? It is not mentioned like in Stark Black copy. Does it include New Wealth, New Romance, New Learning Experiences?
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Why I think Khan suits me over Emperor (Abridged)
Khan - Copy
From the very beginning, even the copy of Khan drew me in on a level that the other subs, including Emperor, didnāt. I did a lot of research and found people saying INTJ (me) = Emperor and stuff like that, but I couldnāt help myself in the end and chose Khan. I got energy just reading about it and it felt like āthe oneā out of the major archetypes.
Emperor - Copy
When I read Emperorās old copy, I knew intellectually that it should fit well and the feedback from the forum seemed to back that up. I just didnāt feel it at all. I mean from the box art to the words to reading about it. It didnāt stir my interest at all.
Khan - Experience
I ran K1-K4 one stage each. K2 was very hard for me. I was running it solo @ two loops and that might have contributed to the craziness. I had days where I was actually scared to press the play button, no joke. Yet despite that, I at least finished it and made it through the rest of the stages.
Exactly once on K2 and once on K4 I had this moment where I felt like I stepped fully into reality and the present moment. Itās really beyond that ā I still havenāt found the words to describe it but I actually felt like I was reality. Iāve only had that experience on Khan out of all the subs Iāve tried at this point. Clearly thereās something deep going on there but I havenāt explored it enough and I have no idea what triggered those states.
EDIT: And like I mentioned earlier in the thread, I just feel damn good on Khan when Iām not dealing with recon or headaches. Like really really good. Smooth, grounded, heavy, and itās easy to flow and just kind of do my thing and have people follow along. Iām naturally an intense person and I spend a lot of time pushing that shit down so I donāt blow up on people or argue all the time. On Ascension and Emperor that anger comes up quickly. Khan smooths it out and I feel like I can just do my thing, no worries, no unnecessary intensity. But I also feel like people are a bit more hesitant to look at me or interact with me than they already are normally. And that kind of sucks sometimes.
Emperor (NSE) - Experience
I never tried the old Emperor for aforementioned reasons, but when I saw the new tech and that it was the only alpha sub updated (I was on Ascension around that time) I decided to give it a shot. Many people in the discussion thread were reporting good things, and there seemed to be a focus on grit which I thought was appropriate to my situation.
I have no other way to describe my experience other than a loud voice shouting at me inside my head to stop fucking around with what I was doing and focus exactly on where I wanted my life to go and accept nothing less. It was unrelenting, and LOUD. And let me be clear that I wasnāt hearing voices. It was like an internal dialogue except no discussion, only a one-sided shouting match. That was most likely my will completely asserting itself.
Khan - Feeling
I think Iām starting to need a new vocabulary to describe my subliminal experience. Things are getting a bit weird for me, in a good way, but itās just not what I would have expected or even understood at the beginning of my journey here. Iām just going to say it:
Listening to the Khan track itself feels like Iām slipping into a velvet skin-tight suit for my brain. Even though itās the same water track as the others, it hits completely different for me. Itās a very distinct feeling. The particular sound of the water feels soooo good in my mind and ears. It feels like Iām coming home when I play it.
Emperor - Feeling
And this is what I love about NSE. Even in my worst K2 moments I pushed on despite my pain. And since I started subclub last February I have never missed a listening day. Not one. But the recon I got from Emperor and the highly intuitive nature of NSE made it abundantly clear that I should stop. I have it marked on my calendar ā my listening day was supposed to be 12/1 and I literally couldnāt make myself press the play button, so I skipped that day and stopped the stack. I couldnāt do it. I physically. couldnāt. press. the. button. I knew unequivocally I had to STOP. It wasnāt a mental choice, I just had to.
Why I'm not worthy
Iām not worthy of either because I havenāt put in enough time or taken enough action to benefit from Khan. I have no social life and I donāt plan on building one here. Iāve definitely given up on finding a girlfriend. I see Khanās effect clearly at my job (I teach a huge range of people in a variety of settings and class sizes from HS/University students - 80 year olds) since itās heavily people-based. But the job itself isnāt something a khan would do, and Iāve recognized that itās just not a good time right now. My experience tells me if I go back through the stages and start socializing I will be fine, but if I donāt do those things Iāll be stuck with a very low ceiling and keep bumping into recon. Itās not worth the stack space or processing power I could give to a more suitable sub.
For Emperor, as I shared earlier, I felt very clearly that it wasnāt the right time, that there may not ever be a right time, and I trust my intuition at this point!
Iāve seen my best results with smaller or more focused subs, and with what Iām doing with my life right now there is no need for something as big and powerful as Khan, nor can I properly take advantage of it anyway. 
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The copy for this is what I always imagined Khan to be. @SaintSovereign said in the past that Khan was always a more expanded version of Emperor over four stages. Iām paraphrasing here
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