…or Name Embedd St.1 with Peace 
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Very true! Even the differences between Khan and DRR are intersting:
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Interesting, I’m more and more torn on Khan- I just took a 5-day washout and am seeing things more objectively.
I had a brief period of absolutely crushing it on K3 and brought some amazing women into my life- who have since become increasingly challenging to maintain relationships with- moving on K4. I don’t think it was K4 -just generally -a few of these women were very high-powered careers; the relationships were very rooted in crazy sex and fun, but no talk of future or alignment outside of that. I seem to have a sticking point here as well. As increasingly they just don’t have time or engagement to keep things rolling but seem to verbally express one thing and their actions another
The kind of woman may have been a combo of C&C and Khan together.
The experience of having this level of success in this area is hard to go back from, the same way it was once I got a taste of the financial success I have -it will be impossible to go back. I don’t feel nearly as confident in my ability to manifest and make happen romance with the woman I am with finances. I believe by continuing to run K4 I will deepen in this.
I am quite bothered by how things have unfolded, although nothing is over yet, technically
I’m both bothered by the challenge and by my reaction to the challenge, but after my washout I am more curious
I’m increasingly thinking Khan- while definitely incredible for growth- has some serious drawbacks with how I’m running it- potentially not enough K1 this round. My sales and income have gone up on Khan and my stack, but there is an intensity to Khan that I have not managed well yet. Where Emperor and Emperor Reforged (from my brief run) feel instantly integrating and cohesive, Khan seems expansive and edgy. Like riding the tiger. This makes sense when the external results reflect this but when they don’t and I’m feeling this it is a hard sub for me to feel internally sourced on.
K4 on previous versions was more powerful sexually to me- generally-pending exceptions- meaning every time I ran it, that was the most pervasive note–Khan: Love and War seems way more dominant than sexual to me, and the dominance feels like recon try-hard or aggro- not deep, masculine, self-controlled real leadership, etc. Running more K1 or even Emperor: Reforged could resolve this. And I have had glimpses of brilliance on Khan when I feel more settled on it.
Whereas WB or Emperor variants seem to create attraction generally, no matter the woman I am engaging with. Khan is harder to navigate; the attraction is very strong and creates total passivity- on Love and War people seem to easily ignore it or write it off, or I have to keep moving things forward, whereas some people seem absolutely enamored and engage equally; usually it requires a lot more effort on my part.
I take full responsibiltiy for my results on it, and am figuring out if it makes sense to continue, to run reforged and/or K1 first before picking it up again. I’m very interested in getting certain issues internally and externally handled/evolved here.Other subs k1, Reforged, WB, and Wanted may address things more directly and set me up for a better run of K4 in the future.
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Did you see a correlation with Khan and ghosting?
IMO Khan you have to go all in or it’s like it doesn’t work- this is why K1 and other foundational subs are so key for Khan - to give comfort with that- IMO other subs provide more of an obvious connection or invite or even have woman make it more obvious or escalate- where as Khan you have to jump fully and then your met totally in your leadership.
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I understand where you are coming from and I read what you wrote. I felt something similar Khan is edgy yes.
Women? They just like to Ghost.
Some will love you on Khan some will hate you.
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My major experience with Khan
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And before anyone jumps to unnecessary conclusions, misinterpretations or misinformation, I’m not painting the sub or its developers in a bad light.
I’ve considered the possibility of people doing that multiple times. Hence, why I’m only sharing this on the main thread now.
However, I chose to give my experience as feedback both for the developers to use in anyway they can to develop an improved product and for other users to be cognizant of a possible experience.
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I never felt comfortable on khan
But it still helped manifest what I wanted
Not the women part…
or if it did to a lesser degree
wanted & wb helped me most there
I find Love and war more uncomfortable then the previous version- but also more productive. I think the reason why through the mechanism- basically utilizing discontent to inspire action towards achieving the objectives
Have you tried combining KHAN with PEACE?
Adding 30 sec of PEACE before any alpha title loop can help a lot in my experiece with all of this stuff with regards to feeling incomplete.
PEACE removes and transcends this whole feeling guilty of “not being there yet”.
PEACE helps to feel whole independent whether you are standing still or moving forward and independent of how fast you are moving forward.
Feeling whole before you arrive. And feeling whole before you move. And feeling whole whether you tried or not.
Paradoxically, the removal of this “feeling incomplete” dread actually frees up a lot of your existing potential, making moving forward easier than before.
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Work on those qualities you learned you might need now
Tested it and it does help quite a bit. Unfortunately, had to take it out of my stack for now.
Besides that, my intention with the post was to share my experience as a form of feedback.
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Any results with women on Kahn st1?
I guess it starts only from stage 2 forward
I don’t know, I haven’t used Khan. But maybe you can pair stage 1 with another title like Primal, PS or Wanted Black.
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Stahe 1 is pretty healing focus. Any success I saw was more likely dream boy
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I used Khan in the past lol don’t remember exactly what happened in st1 I think few IOIs here and there.
I’ll probably start with st4 / 2 for a cycle or two then more forward with st1 as I’m having more free time this month to date women
Later on I’ll let the stages unfold (I have experience with all Khan stages).
Khan4 was a beast it might be too strong st2 was easier.
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How long did you run K3 and K4 for?
Are you actively dating, sleeping with people or pursuing that? I find the sexual energy has to be channeled well in Khan; romance and working out are requirements, in my opinion- unless you’re stacking Khan in a custom with NWE or have a heavy wealth stack you can direct it with. It needs big goals and visions and a constant bone/ aspiration to chew on and move towards.
I have run Khan for a year now, and longer than that since I started K2 in February 2025, and ran it in microloops for a huge part of that year. Then kept it heavily in my stack through stage 2 , 3 and 4, as store tile and in customs.
I totally get the constant push - I find it creates an obsessive energy that you have to channel well.
The more you run Stage 3 and 4, the more it will balance out- Stage 4 especially; there is a fun, charismatic, and relaxed element of indifference that kicks in and is really fun at times.
I also think a lot of the ‘strain’ of Khan may be more recon than you imagine. But overall I agree with elements of what your saying Khan does often lack that click of internal power and when its there its there if feel more either intimidating or not condusive tot the enviroment.
Random note:
I find Love and War harder to run than previous Khan; I find previous Khan signficantly more consistent in its attraction and seduction. I also find previous Khan socially more powerful, as I get quite a lot of respect- like I am the man men want to be. It feels more like I’m the sexiest hottest version of myself on that. Khan Love and War- everyone calls me boss - like everyone- and it’s hyper-dominant and more Emperor-like.
Khan Love and War is much better for general life improvement and self-transformation, and it still is quite powerful for romance- just a different flavor. I think - @Invictus made some reference to anime character Satoru Gojo, quoting Buddha: “In heaven and earth alone I am the honored one.” This is what OG Khan was like for me, and new Khan at its best.
I do believe there is significant room for improvement in future iterations. That’s why I love the concept of Khan Reforged- the naturalness of Emperor Reforged with Khan’s goals and sexuality would be incredible. Especially actually feeling internal power or the effects of Khan from the inside out- as an extension of who one is- not always need to make it happen.
That said I’ve calibrated this by running Khan two weeks solo stages and two weeks in a custom with True socal and New Wealth Experience. And I will say that moments when Khan peaks-even Love and War and I’m 100% in alignment with the sub it’s incredible., so it may just be one that takes ALOT of working through.
Support recommeded PEACE strongly with Khan - to have action and conquest without ‘striving’ and Emperor Reforged would also be very good.
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Ran st3 & st4 for about three cycles between both stages.
Working out was a staple for me. Regarding romance, I moved when I felt like it, although it wasn’t my main focus.
The part about the ambition is REAL, how else are you going to conquer a significant amount of the world?
I’m sure the “strain” is not exactly more recon, I’m beginning to think of it as an energetic excitation and there might be a limiting factor in how my body interpretes it.
Theory aside, the first time I used the latter two stages, especially St4, it seems I just snapped into flow. Didn’t feel powerful/invincible (unless with Spartan), I just felt like me consciously doing what I wanted, without relying on any sort of push/confirmation.
Now on a custom with St3 for about a month, but I’m using it for my very specific use case.
Unfortunately, I didn’t use the previous Khan, so I can’t really say anything about it.
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What about women?
Why stage 3 over 4 for you? Whats the specific use case if your opent to sharing?