While I understand this, it does punish genuine and sensible users for the irresponsible behavior of others. Perhaps revisit the idea of gated releases instead? I’ve seen Black titles recommended to new or inexperienced users a number of times so I don’t think people really understand the labelling very well.
There are many of us here.
I almost feels attacked here.
Fire you know I respect you greatly and your work.
However I by chance can know about such modalities like “heat” “fire” by my acupuncturist.
I hope you do realize I could not or anyone else know about how such things work very well.
Also to know if that’s a recon - bodily recon or something I shouldn’t be using.
I’m talking about myself and about others as well.
Please see that that’s what it is and keeping the discussion respectful and with much appreciation on my side.
The person like me would like to use such a title that many things that are very attractive as a benefit. That’s the reason of trying.
So please don’t accuse me of that.
Count me three
We know. We have considered restricting future titles and modules like this to the Q-Pro tier. But nothing has been decided upon yet other than the fact that Q-Pro will be gated in some way. We now have enough offerings at every price point that we feel it is perfectly fair to create a tier for the most advanced of customers.
Begs an important question, what is the entry level energy title? I feel I need a stepping stone before touching KB.
I gave you the respect of treating you as an equal, the same way I do for everyone else on this forum - and that means telling things that are hard to hear at times. If you are on this forum, I assume you are ready to work on yourself and develop, and are ready to hear criticism.
If you knew you had this:
Then there is no point in you coming to the thread and complaining about heat on a serious cultivation title.
This. We want to make sure those who are ready and take this seriously, have that opportunity.
Well heat or no heat, KB St1 is helping me build a healthy relationship with my own desire. Earlier if someone asked me, what do you want in life, or even a simple question as What would you like to eat, then I would get into a thought process. It makes sense if I am on a diet or a choice that actually require reasoning but I realised that I am so disconnected from my desire that I have to make a case to even indulge a little and many times I just feel ashamed or guilty.
It’s nice to be able to want things, just because you want them.
I think it would be a title that is not apparantly “energetic” in the first place. Something that rather prepares you.
Something like maybe:
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Alchemist.
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@Fire
I understand your point, and I think there may simply be a misunderstanding here.
I’m not blaming KB, nor am I claiming that the title is unbalanced.
This version actually feels very balanced to me, and I genuinely appreciate the work that went into it.
From my first post, I said that this may be a personal sensitivity on my side, and that I would reduce exposure or stop if the physical symptoms continue.
The reason I posted is precisely because I’m trying to use the title responsibly.
I’m experiencing heat, noticeable heartbeats and fatigue, while at the same time getting benefits from Stage 1 that I really value.
What I’m genuinely trying to understand is this:
In the cultivation framework behind KB, can this kind of reaction sometimes be part of an acclimation process, where the system gradually becomes stronger and better able to handle the cultivation?
Or would recurring heat, heartbeats and fatigue instead suggest that this particular type of cultivation may simply not suit my system right now?
In other words, how would you distinguish healthy acclimation or bodily recon from a sign that someone should reduce exposure or stop?
I mentioned the TCM perspective because it is the only framework I currently have for describing what I’m experiencing, not because I’m claiming expertise in energetic cultivation.
I completely accept responsibility for adjusting the exposure to my own system. I’m just trying to understand how to interpret the reaction properly.
Just going through my journas, the khan stage 1s have always been pretty good to me
Old Khan Black Stage 1:
I kind of forgot all these gains, which have led to the results in the titles I ran after
Looking forward to running this one
Maybe do a cycle with Paragon?
It works on healing the nervous system.
Which is highly correlated with how the energy body “attaches” and interacts with the physical body.
You are describing physical symptoms like heartbeat here, which indicates that there maybe a misalignment between the nervous system and the meridians.
Or that simply very strong blockages are being released.
Because releasing energy blockages in the meridians can totally trigger a physical change in your heartbeat:
When a blockage of energy is cleared, energy begins to move freely again. Because the heart meridian directly influences the physical heart, a sudden restoration of flow can manifest as a momentary flutter, a deeper sensation of thumping, or a feeling of warmth and openness in the chest.
That’s what I’m trying to understand.
Yes, but what do you suggest? Just adding paragon to the equation? I mean do you think KB is trying to clear something or is my system too weak to use it?
Can we have some rule of reporting KB here?
First, this is Artisan title with ZPU, the guide always says start with microloop. Users should mention listening time before mentioning about “negative” effect.
Second, what is your current stack? Khan Black is 3rd title to boost or the 4th title you wanna try the strength?
I cannot understand this, Saint has mentioned start with microloop with ZPU.
If you are experienced users, you should have know how Saint and Fire are serious about energy cultivation title like KB. Even if you have listened to subs for many years, you also consider not expert energy cultivation unless you have been practicing one of them like Fire.
I mean all the warning and drama of old KB, you still want to have another drama with this new KB?
PS: @SaintSovereign @Fire @RVconsultant how do you think about adding some rules when users reports about new KB? I give some suggestions above.
At least, we know listening time and how KB is planned into the stack.
I suggest to run a cycle of Paragon and then return to KHAN Black Stage 1 microloops.
KB is definitely clearing something, something major.
Hence the symptoms.
It does not mean that your system is weak.
It could simply be that the blockages that are being released are that strong.
Usually when people start with energy work, even things EFT tapping, and start releasing stuck energy, there is usually a lot of shaking, tears and other physical symptoms.
The more trauma someone has and the faster it is released, the more physical symptomps can occur.
In the spiritual circles this is also known as “Ascension Symptomps” or “Ascension Detox”, because the more stuck energy and negative stuff that you release, the “higher your vibration” becomes, which is just esoteric speak for energy now being able to flow more freely through your system than before. It automatically makes you much more charismatic, hence you “ascend”.
That’s interesting! Thank you
First of all I’m taking days off I will come to Kb1 soon with super micro loops 1-5 seconds then will see what happens.
About paragon I’m not sure if I’ll use it now but I see the logic behind it.
If something is clearing than I need to be super careful on the exposure. I hope it’s just clearing thing that takes time and patience.
Actually it is exciting. I do need to be gentle here and see how my system reacts.
It might solve the mystery here.
Thank you again!
Btw
At some point I felt like I can use this energy to manifest everything I want and I can cultivate this energy make things happen.
Please no nerfing or diminishing.
Its such a fantastic beautifull work you and Saint do.
No Bro comon, don’t make it weaker.
Its perfect, it’s marvelous, a unique gift to the world
THANK YOU
The symbol that I use as a profile picture indicates the solution to this, which is why I enjoy it so much — it contains a very practical “secret” that can be applied across so many situations regardless of what philosophies you subscribe to, because they ALL agree on this point in their own way.
If you are too naturally “yang” (like myself), the best step is to seek balance with the inclusion of “yin.”
If you wish to address these issues with subliminal audio, titles like PEACE is what you’re looking for. Emperor: REFORGED.
You are already familiar with intensity — titles like Wanted Black. Those who possess natural heat (remember, I’ve referred to myself as having an intense “creative rage,” which leads to aggression if I’m not creating constantly) should seek balance in the form of titles that calms and relaxes the system, allowing them to hold and wield that inner fire.
KB may not be the best title for now. However, that doesn’t mean that you cannot ever benefit from it. Just that the needs of the system are different than the desires of the mind.
I’ve been there, everyone. I wanted to run all of the alpha titles, but I began to realize that the intensity produced did not move my life forward in a meaningful way. I have a lot of inner fire, intensity was my default way of living. Through all of the titles I’ve used — grounding titles — I have begun to master it, able to relax when necessary and to “turn up the creative intensity” when needed.
It is a far more mature state than I could’ve ever imagined.
Thank you, that actually makes a lot of sense.
I think I was focusing too much on how to handle more KB and eventually intensity, instead of asking whether my system needs more balance and grounding first.
I’ll take a break from KB for now and look more seriously into PEACE.
Cannot more than wholeheartedly agree with this. I myself had this summer a freak reaction to a nervous system crash through a health crisis. So my Yang efforts that followed put me into constant action/flow states and crazy synchronicities. But as with what Taijitu symbolises, my state was not balanced at all.
So, I’ve just come out of a one month + Yin phase, where I still had some Yang input, but 80% of my focus was on Yin. Simply I just grounded myself and put my awareness into my body without interfering (wanting to change anything), and I’ve now stabilized to a point where I’m adding more Yang again. I simply trust my body fully to give me the feedback I need to adjust moment to moment.
This has also bled into my subliminal input awareness. I’m now far more attuned to the highs and lows and can adjust accordingly. The sense of urgency has almost disappeared completely.
I would say that coming from a sports background where I bulldozed my body for decades, then going deeply into right hand path Buddhism (felt deflated at the end of it)… that I now finally started to find my balance.