Do you mind explaining briefly what you have upgraded in this new version?
I’m curious what you actually changed, what was tweaked?
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This version seems to be working much smoother and faster than the older one.
I remember struggling a lot with st1 back when it got first released.
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This guy has been hammering for months how important for SR and sexual energy cultivation TRE is.
And TRE is also sooo good for subliminals (and life)
Great channel to watch if ur on KB rn
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Very fast and strong
I’m going to take listening times down to 30 seconds
KB was always super strong long listening will induce too much heat for me.
Be mindful of this energy is no joke.
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The original one was making me horny too much, I stopped listening to it. This new version is so smooth I feel so much energy but not horny at all… I enjoyed this version so much
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Thats the same reason i stopped prev version felt horny as in kinda of desperate energy. Perhaps ill give this new one a try…
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To describe last one prior to update kb as making me horny is a massive understatement, it basically put me in a sexual fire chamber where everycell of my body was baked and fried in intense sexual energy that wakes me up from sleep. Way too destabilising at the time.
I doubt that. Sounds like misuse or abuse of the product. Overexposure, jumping to a higher stage without listening to the earlier stages. Exactly why we nerfed the OG version and refused to release stage 4 at first.
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I only did kb st 1 of the old one and i wasnt the only one that reported that similar experience, several others said it was just poorly balanced compared to other healing subs, the recon was bad even on lower duration loops.
Not my case, when I said I struggle with it, I meant the healing, it was rough for me.
I should clarify that I used it in a very difficult period of my life, when lots of things where happening and I knew what I was going into.
Anyways it seem important to state something in general.
Im NOT claiming KB made me deperately horny nor that it destabilized me, Im not saying the sub made me anything.
It simply help me through a rough time, but it wasnt easy to go through with it. That had more to do with my messy personal life than with the sub.
Also theres a reason why this title is considered Artisanal, its for advanced user and requieres experience, self awareness and self regulation.
In a previous post I said KB requires sincerity, but I think thats true for every sub. Sometimes Ive been guilty of biting more than I can chew.
My personal conclusion from that experience is that theres no shame in admitting when you are wrong. In fact being able to admit when you are wrong is a must, if you are involved in any kind of self development, healing or changework.
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Tbh he’s right
Even though the current version is more balanced I still started to feel heartbeats and heat…
For me it might be too much Yang energy
From TCM perspective I have a personal problem of too much heat and dump.
I’m using KB1 because it’s the best Nofap sub ever but I might need to go just few seconds in listening time and give it another go .
If I still feel weakness of to much Yang energy I’ll drop it
Still love KB but I have a personal sensitivity here
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Feeling this as well. Comes several hours after listening then goes away. Didn’t feel this with KB ZP V2.
I’ve felt the heartbeat thing on other products like Khan and SMX as well. It’s manageable for me. Once I acclimate to the title it goes away completely.
I’ve only ever felt heat on the old Dragon Reborn. Didn’t like it. This heat feels different. Doesn’t feel unpleasant like old DR.
I also feel electric pinches in my arms sometimes.
Started with 5 seconds, then 15, then 30. Will do 1 minute tomorrow. Listening to Masked at the lowest possible audio level on iPhone and AirPods.
So far so good.
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It’s artisanal title after all. Try it out, if it don’t work for you currently, try it again later.
I felt the heat and excitement, but that’s just because the channels gets cleared and you have more energy flowing, you’re not used to it. Take it slow and your system will balance it out. You’ll get used to it.
Also, use that extra energy. Engage in grounding practices. Then eventually it will be normalised for you.
Same thing happens if you engage in proper neidan practices. Then it will settle down.
Key is not push yourself too hard and take it slow.
The product is working as intended.
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Yeah, I think so as well.
People who never did any energy body work, should start with the recommended 15 seconds micro loops of Stage 1 only, and then stay on those micro loops for a very long time. 6 to 12 months at least.
Because it is not just energy channels clearing that is happening there, but also all the processing of all the emotions, topics and trauma that were attached to that preciously stuck energy. Energy is not neutral but associated with topics, information, concepts, experiences etc.
My energy system is pretty developed and energy mostly flows completely free, yet still Stage 1 is causing me recon because the script is working on sexual trauma topics and mental healing that comes with it, which is also a big part of Stage 1.
Or in other words: Stage 1 works on several really big topics all at the same time, hence again my recommendation to everyone: run micro loops and stay on Stage 1 for a long time.
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Khan black stage 1 appears to magnify my charisma. I am currently running 6 mins alongside hero the light that blinds stage 1 running it for 1 minute.
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People lack the requisite knowledge to call it “poorly balanced,” especially if the indicator is the presence of heat.
The sensation of heat itself is not caused JUST by energy moving through the channels. It is more like friction — the energy meeting blockages and areas where energy has grown stagnant.
The more heat, the more friction. The more friction, the more you abused your own system before even running it.
Not an indication of something being “unbalanced.” I feel the same heat in my own Neidan practice, especially in the beginning stages of a new method.
This is considered basic thought in these traditions, and those who were practicing legitimate energetic practices complained about OG Khan Black being “too weak.”
As an Artisan Title, we are expecting those who use it to use it properly and wisely, and I bet if I go back to the KB thread and investigate, many people were not. I remember the backlash when I announced that it had been nerfed and I was holding stage 4 back. People calling us gatekeepers and referring to me specifically (and in a derogatory manner) as “Daddy Saint spanking users until they act right,” and yet here we again where we were proven accurate.
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If this keeps happening - if people who cannot use Khan Black properly, with consideration of their internal systems and while keeping in mind their existing issues, then we’ll simply have to nerf Khan Black to the lowest common denominator.
So that those who cannot use it properly can do whatever they want with it and we would not be at the potential receiving end of a backlash.
I really wanted to avoid doing this, thus the extensive upgrade Khan Black received and all the efforts I put into the new KB, but it seems Khan Black simply has that effect on people - where people with existing issues want to run it and blame it.
This was intended as a serious artisanal title, for people with serious spiritual practices and goals.
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It lingers several days… That’s why I’m thinking of dropping the listening time and to once a week.
It’s a physical recon that’s making me less productive.
I appreciate your efforts and KB its a fine, wonderful product.
It seems to me that its not only people with existing issues that want to run it and blame it, but people who besides that seems to think that the listening rules and recomendations do not apply to them, that they somehow are over that, more advanced than the rest of us.
When shit hits the fan, instead of looking inside and self correct its always the sub thats wrong. Even though a simple search shows those users over exposing, listening to multiple subs, changing stacks like they change socks, disregarding advice from other users, from support and from you and Saint and so on.
Im not saying everyone having issues fit this category, but surely its a pattern, thats not exclusive to KB.
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