I would use WDB till they remake Heartsong … i met the most awesome chick using WDB whose basically anything i could want out of someone
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Its also less intensive.
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I’m looking forward to this upgrade as well.
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This subliminal has gained a reputation for harsh recon and triumphant wins from a crowd. The pinpointing on the recon issues is because “matters of the heart” can be intense. I’m on my 4th ever loop of Heartsong, and decided to finally throw it in as the third sub on my new cycle.
I’m coming off 20 days of Emperor, Emperor Reforged and later GLMC and starting fresh with Khan ST1-Khan Black ST1 Name Embedded + Dragon Reborn Red ST1 and now Heartsong.
My first impressions have been positive, and my impression on this cycle is that my subconscious mind is in love with this subliminal. I haven’t experienced the recon yet, but I think the reason my psyche is giddy about this is because it’s going to relieve a very intense pain I’ve dealt with since I was in grade school as a lil kid, and even more bs as a teenager into early twenties. I felt a different, very deep side of me wake up. This could be a mixture of the titles, but Heartsong put everything into full throttle this morning. Joy and relief. I am not expecting the entire cycle to be like this, but we will see.
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This might be the ultimate sub
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I’m placing my money on it. Definitely ready to get my hands dirty and do some deep work. At the same time, the biggest conundrum is that I’m given the advice that I need to do more work internally before I have love or a relationship and I just think that’s a very bad belief.
I think it’s 100% optimal to do inner work, and heal before engaging in any relationships. Though, I don’t think it changes how much someone deserves or is ready for love, because often it just happens. Also, I believe in a paradox. By inherent human dignity, everyone deserves love, while at the same time no one is entitled to someone else’s love, body, etc. If love happens, it happens, but society is hammering this self-development narrative to where, action isn’t appropriately timed anymore and collaborating towards the fulfillment of love and meeting of mutual expectations is so difficult today.
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Yeah defiantly the inner work, before you look for the external,
Dragon series be good to use in conjunction
Everything is work in progress
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It’s a great thing that I’m running a name embedded WDB + Summertime combo then!
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From the few loops I’ve played (ever), I have responded extremely well to the scripting. My experience with love in general is Dark Souls game difficulty type of bad. So, I don’t think Heartsong could make it any worse. From the pattern I’m noticing, my subconscious is relieved by playing Heartsong. It’s just that bad, that the scripting actually lands and executes. Now I am bracing for recon. Especially on Khan ST1-Khan Black ST1 + Dragon Reborn Red ST1 with it.
It’s like it unlocks a deep part of my mind that started getting giddy and happy when I play it.
The phrase that comes to mind this cycle is “Hail Mary Pass.” A successful one though. 
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Haha something keeps making me post here once every two weeks, I don’t even plan it like that 
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I wish I responded well to it. Last time I ran it…nothing. Like literally nothing happened while listening to it for months. Though I have indeed gone through a bit of growth since then, I’m a bit reluctant to add it back in when I could use it for something else.
In an ideal world, I’d be running a name-embedded IC + Heartsong ZPU title in my stack long-term until I have an established long-term relationship. It’d be the perfect title for people manifestation (although I wonder if the founders and forum ambassadors would think this would move the title away from manifesting one’s soulmate)…and ideally, the updates make it work for online, in person, long distance, everything. I guess my current stack already does move me in the direction; I just wish I had HS doing dedicated work for it. All of the stuff below is name-embedded:
- QL ST2 + EAS
- IC
- WDB + Summertime
But honestly, I wonder sometimes what is actually needed. After all, there’s plenty of people out there who don’t use any subs, and they’re doing fine in the relationship department. What’s wrong with me and what’s wrong with us on here .
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Guys I kept saying for years Hs is the best sub for couples but I only started to address real root stuff with khan black even though I had Hs in my stack for over a year and a half. Hs makes things peaceful but that doesn’t mean it “heals” everything. Sometimes you’ll just shush things down the rug to make your day to day nicer. Just sharing this experience with you all.
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I’ve been considering a NEMT of HS and either Regen or Limit Destroyer.
Thought if I did NEMT of Regen and Limit Destroyer, that could stack with anything else I run.
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I think its extremely rare to find a true soulmate love al tho it might be the greatest material experience and pleasure one can experience on this plane , most people are in karmic relationships that become gradually monotone habitual repetition of daily life motions without great love, passion or growth, like roomates living with each other out of shared experiences and being used to each other in comfort zone.
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This is where titles like Primal Romance and WDB really shines. A PN + PR + WDB stack can help revive even the most monotonous of relationships.
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I’m also very spiritual and having been unlearning and relearning many concepts. From my experience, New Age concept about soulmate, twins, etc are not 100% accurate, it only accurate 50%. Yes, my opinion and experience.
You can watch this video to fully grasp what is the true and real definition of twins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RrsNN_9Re0
@SaintSovereign If you have time to watch thru this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RrsNN_9Re0, this gives the real concepts of twins, soulmates etc which is tremendous help for upcoming Heartsong update. I believe once you know the real design, knowledge and nature of twins and soulmate, it’s give you a clear design for Heartsong.
In short, there are many level of twins you can have: Soul level, Oversoul level, Rishi level, etc. Have this knowledge will help you to navigate your expectation in relationship.
Cheer
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Stay consistent with it, whatever happens.
If you need to ease up, dial down the rest of your stack, but keep Heartsong.
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Yes, it works well. If you recommend it, I will play it. I kinda made a Heartsong Black custom, though balanced between physical shifting, aura, sexuality, wisdom, protection, authority, and psychological healing/restoration w/ Essence: To Dream of Me and Sunbathed Module to keep that love and romance theme strong. Keystone and Essence: Protector’s Authority for frame and groundedness.
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@SaintSovereign Is it possible for the next Heartsong to be modeled after the new LBFH and the 3 phases it incorporates? First calming the body with nervous system regulation. Then filling you with self love, acceptance, and inner peace. And lastly radiating that love to your soulmate only after completing the first 2 phases.
I feel like that would fix the trauma and recon some users experienced.
I mentioned inner peace in the second phase since the new PEACE title lets the trauma go through you and dissipate. With this feature, the user can just accept that the heartbreak happened and move on peacefully.
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Way less recon when I run with dreamboy, stick to 10-30 seconds and watch romance movies/shows with soulmate themes
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