You convinced me, i will give it a try.
I feel it would be amazing with drr4.
From some healers i heard that love is the biggest manifestor of everything even money, through heart based healing even tho money might not the a priority or intention.
On material level i do want love more than anything else.
I listened to my first loop yesterday (30 seconds).
After a few minutes I danced in a fluid and fun way like I’ve never tried before.
A few hours later and felt some deep sad emotions, but didn’t feel any healing…
Edit: I’m also running PS, so I suspect the dancing in a fun way came from it, HS added the fluidity.
Well, have you pondered that these deep and sad emotions emerging, are indeed healing… that just the fact that they are coming up to the surface and your conscious awareness, is in fact the process of healing and letting go of the attachment, that made you hold to these emotions and suppress them in the first place?
Emotion = Energy in motion
Trying to hold on and trap energy in motion leads to stagnation and goes against the natural rhythmic flow of life, which leads to suffering because your are trying to fight and claw against Universal law. So then allowing this flow again and releasing leads to more harmony within you.
Just some ideas and thoughts
Thanks for you reply @Tobyone.
Yes I was aware of this process, but you helped me understanding it with more detail.
The reason why I’m in doubt about the healing in this particular situation, is because when I used other subs like Asc or PS sometimes I cried and that’s feels healing. Yesterday I just felt sad emotions without crying.
But like you explained just feeling them might be enough. If that’s so I just would like to understand why sometimes we cry and others don’t.
I wonder if the healing that occurs by processing the emotions is as small as @SaintSovereign mentioned.
Changing subject, I get better results by building my own listening schedule, and I like to know and feel what a sub does at the beginning, so today I listened to another loop and I’m feeling the self love of LB.

But like you explained just feeling them might be enough. If that’s so I just would like to understand why sometimes we cry and others don’t.
Try asking yourself some questions about what healing means to you? What does healing feel like, and what is your conceptualization of the process of healing? Just approach it with an open mind, see what comes up, and just see it as a way of increasing your own awareness.
Something I noticed when starting my self-development journey years back, was that actually a lot of the emotions that surfaced, I did not know a lot about, as I had been suppressing them for so long. There’s a lot of knowledge and information hidden in them. But if you have been hiding from them, then you were not open to learning anything about them and they instead dragged you down.

Try asking yourself some questions about what healing means to you? What does healing feel like, and what is your conceptualization of the process of healing? Just approach it with an open mind, see what comes up, and just see it as a way of increasing your own awareness.
With Asc one time I vomited and people told me it is due to deep fears coming to the surface. Other times I cried.
So I guess healing might just be feeling painful emotions that were stuck.

There’s a lot of knowledge and information hidden in them.
Can you give me an example?

Can you give me an example?
I mean it’s very personal to every individual, but just on the top of my head… take sadness… and how it can lead you to discovering more of your authentic self.
Sadness is something what usually arises when something deeply meaningful to us is felt to be lost. So in a way it can point us in a direction to show to us what we truly value and love.
By not running away from that sadness or trying to distract ourselves to cover it up, we can look at it, feel it, and embrace it in order to let it be felt and then let go of. And in doing this, we learn not to push anything down, and we might also peel away layers of falsehood, layers of identity, that might just come from societal contracts and expectations, and thus revealing what genuinely matters and what can be simply let go of. And by doing so we become more independent and stronger individuals.
And this can lead to a whole array of different things happening, as you might then understand that grief is a natural and necessary process to loss, which then might lead you into reading about the 5 stages of grief, and then maybe shadow work etc etc.
Just examples above. But it just illustrates that all you do in feeling into it and learning about it, is that you raise your awareness, you rise to an elevated position, and you become more conscious and acquire greater emotional control and ability to live a fuller life.

which then might lead you into reading about the 5 stages of grief, and then maybe shadow work etc etc.
When using Asc I watched some videos on YouTube about integrating the shadow.
I also did the practice and integrated my shadow (or at least part of it).
I remember when I had the chance to feel those emotions and those parts of me (ex: being maquiavelic). I was very hesitant of doing so, because I was afraid of becoming evil and not being able to come back. But fortunately I didn’t become evil…
What happened is just that I use that energy for constructive things most of the time.
BTW, 1 day after listening to the first loop of HS I met a nice and knowledgeable guy on the forum (@Tobyone), so it looks like in a way HS is already working.

BTW, 1 day after listening to the first loop of HS I met a nice and knowledgeable guy on the forum (@Tobyone), so it looks like in a way HS is already working.
I’m just a sign post that appeared. You are your own guru and teacher and you have all the answers already. ZP works through you, and it’s great that you made this connection of manifestation
I’m in the middle of my second cycle with Heartsong and through various interactions and perspective shifts I am delighted to notice that my baseline of self-worth and self-esteem has gone up in a big way and feels like a new solid foundation of my identity.
@Parsifal
You talked about LB doing this for you back then but I didn’t experience this as much as I do with Heartsong. I have had very beautiful experiences with LB but the way Heartsong healing works for me feels so smooth and the shift in self-esteem and worthiness is massive I would think I am running an alpha sub. Worth a try if you ever get a space in your stack, you won’t regret this!
A little update about this girl that I felt was a good match, is that I grew so much in the last 2 weeks that I now feel like she is not good enough for me anymore, which is something I am so confused about because I never experienced such a fast shift before, and that’s one of the signs that my ‘deserve’ level has gone up, through interactions with her and multiple other girls these last weeks I have reset my sense of worth to new heights.
Coupled with BDLM and RotNW my sense of sexual worthiness has also gone up so great synergy with Heartsong even though I didn’t get any outer results from RotNW.

A little update about this girl that I felt was a good match, is that I grew so much in the last 2 weeks that I now feel like she is not good enough for me anymore
I think I suffered from the same problem just by using Asc. I quickly manifested a new woman who is now a better match (also just using Asc - and BTW I stopped using it has it creates me problems when used together with PS).
So I hope that by using PS + HS I can quickly seduce her (when using Asc we had our second conversation, we talked about intimate subjects, and there is already big attraction between us) and start a serious relationship with her, because if I don’t do it quickly most likely I’ll also keep growing and become too good for her.
This probably poses another future problem: after initiating a new relationship with a girlfriend how to help her grow at the same rhythm than me?

I’m in the middle of my second cycle with Heartsong and through various interactions and perspective shifts I am delighted to notice that my baseline of self-worth and self-esteem has gone up in a big way and feels like a new solid foundation of my identity.
@Parsifal
You talked about LB doing this for you back then but I didn’t experience this as much as I do with Heartsong. I have had very beautiful experiences with LB but the way Heartsong healing works for me feels so smooth and the shift in self-esteem and worthiness is massive I would think I am running an alpha sub. Worth a try if you ever get a space in your stack, you won’t regret this!
I’m so glad this sub also improves self-worth and self-esteem. With the added healing seems to be an upgrade to LB. After about 2 weeks on LB I also noticed people wanting to help me. Does this also happen with HS?

even though I didn’t get any outer results from RotNW
What is RotNW? Is the one below?
TRotNW - The Revelation of the Nectar Within

This probably poses another future problem: after initiating a new relationship with a girlfriend how to help her grow at the same rhythm than me?
When you figure this out let me know lol

how to help her grow at the same rhythm than me?
She’ll have to want to, first and foremost.

She’ll have to want to, first and foremost.
Good point. If she doesn’t want to, then she is not a twin soul because I want to keep growing, but for now I’ll be happy with just a nice, and good in bed girlfriend.
If she is a twin soul, she will want to.

This probably poses another future problem: after initiating a new relationship with a girlfriend how to help her grow at the same rhythm than me?

She’ll have to want to, first and foremost.

If she is a twin soul, she will want to.
I figured out! If she is a twin soul, she lives near by and she already discovered Sub Club!
Edit: Or she found another self development tool as good as Sub Club subs, and then we can combine the 2 tools in synergy!
Some love songs keep popping up into my mind’s surface. Any idea why does that happen?
I don’t see it as a problem because growth is my main objective and sense of satisfaction and that is what will bring better experiences and better partners and friends my way.
Yes RotNW is Revelation of the Nectar Within, it’s helping me heal blockages in my entire body by stimulating a powerful sense of sexual confidence and opening energy pathways in the sexual area.
HeartSong softens the heart and emotions and I have noticed after running a loop and take a shower I tend to sing in a much sweeter softer way.

I don’t see it as a problem because growth is my main objective and sense of satisfaction and that is what will bring better experiences and better partners and friends my way.
For me it’s a problem, because at this point my main objective and sense of satisfaction comes from getting a girlfriend.
What’s the point in growing and being legendary if I keep living alone in the world? Or if we don’t reach our goals? IMO growing has to be useful for something and measured, and that usefulness and measurement is done by setting and achieving goals.
I understand people who say that they love themselves and that they love their own company. I also love taking time for myself when I have frequent company. But what I think those people are missing out is that if they would be alone and isolated from the world for 1 year they wouldn’t feel happy (unless they are monks ).
We are social beings and for some reason I still am not knowledgeable about, we need to exchange energy with others in order to feel well.
Some more results (listening to PS + HS):
I like to put the responsibility on me and with that comes the power to change everything.
Now I don’t think I’m worse or better than anyone else, I put myself at the same level of others in an authentic way, and close to them even if that means getting out of my comfort zone and risking showing my vulnerabilities and being hurt. So far no one has hurt me, and even when people make judgements, you know what? It was because I sent some negative subconscious signal to them, so when that happens I quickly change my inner state to a positive one and the other person automatically changes his/her state too.
No more envies from other people, because when that happens I put the blame on my ego, then I smile and people smile back. No more need to fight anyone. Life is being nice and peaceful!
Anyway I just started a washout, as I have eye wrinkles, I’m too tired, I’m ruminating a lot and I can’t focus, as a sign that I need a washout. Women in general, including the beautiful ones, are all smiling and being nice to me for several days, so I think I’ve already shifted the reality.
There is another nice woman I met, who wants to help me and invited me to take me to a place with some of her friends. I don’t consider it a date, but we have been getting along pretty well, and it’s a start. We have many things in common, including the things we have been through in life, so maybe she is the twin flame manifestation from HS, although I’m not sure because I met her when I was washing out from Asc without ever having used HS (I used LB a long time ago for only 1.5 cycles and I quit due to huge recon). Yesterday, when I was preparing to leave, there was a curious manifestation: her parents showed up, she didn’t tell me who they were, but the father made a comment which revealed they were the parents… She was caught!
We were talking yesterday for about 2 hours, and it went very well with lots of humor and showing of vulnerability from both sides. I’m just not sure yet if the reality bubble is working or how does it feel, because I didn’t feel anything about the bubble.
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