Yes, I believe based on description and my experience with relationships that this sub is more about long term(of course I guess someone can see quick results). That can make it less shiny compared to some seduction subs, but I believe it doesn’t make it any weaker, based on personal goals.
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Im considering adding this to my stack, i run only Khan and WTP and im getting great results, but this also looks appealing
This or PN
Lmao “Heartsong or Primal Nights”
The dichotomy of man right there
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Create a custom… call it Heartsong Nights!!
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Both is always the answer.
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Re: Heartsong
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You really think running HS is essential?
Classic!
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Whoops phrased that weird, my bad.
I think if you’re going to run Heartsong, it’s essential to run an alpha title with it.
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Why do you feel that is the case, Heartsong makes you too soft?
Well, I run Heartsong alongside of Khan, and I would describe it otherwise from my perspective - it maybe softens up Khan a little, or I would say make it more loveable as Khan need of dominance is molded more into diplomatic approach. At least it is as I feel it and to be honest I like it, because it more copes with my personality.
So maybe that “essentiality” is based on personality of user.
I wouldn’t say it like that, I’d say more that Heartsong really benefits from having a structure around it that grounds you while you heal from it.
Everyone has romantic/love/worthiness based trauma I think, and running Heartsong it’s gonna get healed, and while it’s getting healed you want to maintain that masculine structure and texture of groundedness and depth.
A Stark Black Reality or Emperor I think flow REALLY well with Heartsong right now, due to their resilience scripting leading to internal grounding.
I’ve never run Khan so I can’t comment on how well it would synergize
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Interesting, I like how you put that. It would be nice to have input from others around this or from @SaintSovereign.
That’s the reason I asked if Stark Black had self-love scripting in it, because then there might be no need to add a sub in like Heartsong or Love Bomb to cover that.
It sounds like you are speaking from direct experience here, or is it more an intuitive hunch?
I’m thinking of running Stark Black with new Heartsong.
Yes sir, I started my current cycle with Emperor + Heartsong as soon as HS released, and about a 10 days into it pivoted to Stark Black + HS.
The grounding from Emp / SB feels very similar, but the texture of it is different due to the surrounding scripting. On SB I feel more outgoing and driven to accomplish things externally, whereas with Emp I felt more pulled inwards to solve internal issues. The slight problem I had with Emperor is that it fed into my perfectionism and my tendency to hold myself to impossible standards that are outside my current capacity/limits for action. Funny enough on SB I am not having this problem, and the same internal issues I was working on with Emperor are also being reflected on and solved smoothly now, thanks to the NSE. I think I am gelling more with SB because my favorite sub from back in the day was OG Stark while I was in college.
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Since release of NEW Heartsong and switching to it from old version I noticed increase in numbers of dreams about relationships. Usually they do not make sense as it is often with dreams, but the relationship topic is there. I guess it is part of subconscious work of Heartsong.
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What does it mean @AnswerGroup @Forum_Ambassadors
Does this product include something like Love Bomb? Or like Love Bomb for Humanity? It seems to target self love?
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No products “include” aspects of other products anymore, like the way it used to work with “modules” in the store titles.
I’d say these days, titles include scripting inspired by other titles. Like ASBR including resilience scripting inspired by New Emperor.
As for your question, I’d say yes it probably does include scripting inspired by the Love Bomb series, based on the copy and the objectives. I’d double down on that assertion especially now that the Love Bomb series are nestled under the “Heartsong line” of titles within the actual store/shop.
I expect that when Love Bomb gets it’s update, we’ll be able to confidently draw lines of inspiration between it and Heartsong going both ways.
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I get the disclaimer 
I realize that the question I asked has already be asked (LBFH/LB)
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@Psiklou @Joa23 @Prioritas
I submitted a ticket regarding self love in HS. Below is the transcript.
How much self love, if any, is in the new Heartsong compared to LBFH? HS seems to have a lot of healing and I’m guessing that the “you can’t love someone without loving yourself” aspect would be included in HS. Or am I wrong?
SC:
In the new Heartsong title, there is indeed a significant focus on self-love and healing. It recognizes the importance of loving oneself before being able to truly love others. The title incorporates powerful scripting that aims to instill a deep sense of self-love and appreciation within you, as filtered through the New Subliminal Experience (which helps you manifest beautiful situations in which you experience and can give love).
While Love Bomb for Humanity also emphasizes self-love, Heartsong takes it a step further by specifically addressing the healing aspect. It aims to heal emotional wounds, boost self-esteem, and help you recognize your own worth and potential for growth. By doing so, it creates a solid foundation for cultivating love and positive energy within yourself.
So, to answer your question, Heartsong does include the “you can’t love someone without loving yourself” aspect and places a strong emphasis on healing and self-love. It complements Love Bomb for Humanity by providing additional support and nurturing your inner self.
If you’re looking to enhance your self-love journey and experience deep healing, Heartsong would be a wonderful choice. It offers a unique blend of healing and self-appreciation scripting that can help you develop a profound sense of love and acceptance for yourself.
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