Going to give C&C another try tho and since Saint said it will be easier to run now if you stack True Sell with it so let’s see.
@Azriel sold me on giving it another fair shot lol.
Been having reality bending results on EoG: True Sell ST1 but I want to take it even further so let’s see how it goes. Also since more and more of my deals are higher price tag from both B2B and B2C it would be amazing to close more of those out to further increase the wealth results.
Amazing, thank you for this incredible comprehensive response. I am illuminated by the clarification and much more excited to run the sub now.
100% this is so true. I did a ZP rebuild for my OG True sell custom- I figured the same custom with new True Sell would be just as potent if not more once the learning curve sets in?
It sounds like unless I want NWE for the other modules it will no longer be necessary here either.
Also just realizing as I write this will stage 1 be automatically updated for it? How will the ZP rebuild process True Sell automatically? Like which stage?
This will be the challenge.
I was thinking of True Sell Stage 4 with Khan Stage 4, True Sell Stage 1, C&C, RICH custom, and then Beast or a light physical custom. I would likely ramp up to that after starting Stage 4 store title solo
HOM helped with rapport, willingness, and discovery quite potently, more than C&C as a scattershot.
C&C helped filtration and quality leads in the long run but it had a learning curve.
So on HOM more people opened up in discovery and I could relate with them well, and more high quality leads came in as well. There was sometimes a correlation. And I think that was a function of the wealth elements to it
On C&C I have less rapport with most people, and it matters less, and more high quality leads come in who I either have rapport with or don’t but they still close for some reason.
New True Sell seems to capture the best of both.
The relationship influence of HOM-from Transcendental connection seemed to help with follow up a bit, but more romance, family, work dynamics, and friendships.
I never got back to you yet, I don’t think you should run it yet. I think you should run new True Sell for a month and get a baseline with that first.
Especially with the momentum and stack you have. Then when things are sharp really heating up and stabilized, add C&C
edit: I definitely think you should give a shot but not yet. Obviously you’ll do what feels right for you though.
My income went up about $7k a month once C&C got cooking. That’s not a proportional big leap with where I am at so I hadn’t even really noticed until @Plutus asked my results on that vs. HOM wealth wise and I did that math. But seeing it over the course of a year it is more
significant.
That’s why I’m just going to try a one week experiment more so to see how it stacks with EoG: True Sell ST1 (since Saint himself said this is the best stack for sales). Also because my deals are starting to become more big type deals where it’s a different world in B2B as @Switters could maybe relate to. If it doesn’t work well, I drop it but I’m testing it with the main store title so I’m losing anything by testing it (I wish it was already a multi stager as I don’t care about the privacy/treasury scripting but since Saint said with conscious guidance you can focus on which part of the features you want to use so then I will do that).
Also the reason it’s one week to see is 1) good thing is I always see fast if a sub aligns with my goals and results if not and 2) is before the campaign I told about on the B2C side launches so I have a bit of time to experiment before I really see the true results on the B2C side which I will share to you privately.
Considering it’s only been like what 6 months since C&C came out? I think that’s still amazing results outside of taxes taking half lol. Tho I agree it’s not a proportional leap where it’s an extra 20k per month but still worth keeping in mind in my opinion.
Also one other reason I wanted to give C&C another try is for the trust scripting/presence, seems like EoG: True Sell ST1 has that but I want to take that to the max.
Ran a 10s microloop of TS1 today. Im in a engineering job so not direct sales but boy did i have a silver tongue today.
I built rapport with almost everyone i spoke to today. Witty comments were just flying off left and right. Had a blast today. I have a presentation later in the evening. Will update how it goes
One week might not be enough. I’m also concerned about it disrupting your current momentum because it’s quite a dense sub with a very future oriented purpose. I maintain that True Sell: Stage 4 – The Empire may be a better choice.
Keep in mind that @Azriel 's report mentioned running it for months before he was happy. Perhaps he can opine on what changed for him to start getting better results.
Yep it disrupted it quite quickly. Today was a mess but I recovered from it and I think ST1 of True Sell was the reason to thank for it. Not blaming anyone but myself but it’s a lesson learned lol.
I’m currently already at two QTKS custom. What results can I expect if I add ST4 as part of my third sub stack.
my stack before the upgrade for the past few months was TS, RICH, and Emperor C&C… now It’s TS stage 2/Rich and Emperor C&C… @SaintSovereign youre saying its better to replace C&C w/ stage 4 for now? I just want to make sure that’s correct
@SaintSovereign you said that you wanted to run true sell because your sales/marketing skills are falling behind a bit or something like that IIRC
How good would True Sell be for me if I want to build a coaching business alongside my sales career… in general I know it would be good, but specifically, would it help me be more persuasive and get more sales/leads by building a YouTube channel? Would it help with on-camera sales, on camera influence, etc, when I’m only talking to a camera and not to a person in front of me?
And in a custom could I run MDFY: Conscious Guidance for all kinds of goals, or is it limited to one main one to gear the custom towards?
About 3 weeks of rough seas and things started to turn around by week 6
Originally I ran it without ASBR. Re-introducing ASBR and that high resilience, semi-fame warmth supported the calls.
The easy rapport of HOM AND the influence from Transcendental connection are very real in your face phenomenon. (I actually want to run transcendental connection in future customs with True Sell or C&C). That it felt out of control to lose those short term effects.
The real difference came from my focal point for gauging shifted from caring about the experience of calls and feeling connected to not needing to win leads over if they weren’t fits, so I started wasting less time with the wrong people and having faith in the system that enough of the right people would come. I started filtering people. OG True Sell had an intuition with this but I still got hooked on people I thought I could win over, but something didn’t click, but C&C really refined the filtering process in my pipeline.
HOMs big downside of course was incredible rapport could turn into spite quickly or lack of authority- you get people who are too ‘sticky’ or people who can jive with you but when it comes to business its going no where they turn a 180.
So C&C solved both those issues. Since I would have enough of the right rapport (authority, trust as well) with the right people right away that the rest faded away.
I also stopped trying to influence and convince and became better at going with grain of where people were coming from, understanding that, and then showing them a better way in their thinking and being even if it had nothing to do with the product/service. Working on the root/cause rather then the symptom. I leveraged my authority and expertise to do this. Not sure if specifically a function of C&C or just continued development- but it start developing when C&C started working better for me.
True Sell custom and Khan have been more then sufficient as I’m down running only about 30-90 seconds of ASBR/C&C a week now.
Although I will say when I’m running C&C/ASBR custom more mixed with Khan- I do attract more high power woman who are great potential life partners that we could pool resources and build together- not sure if a coincidence or something in C&C would mesh with a sub like Khan for this- @SaintSovereign -would inner circle scripting in C&C coincide with romance subs to produce this?
@SaintSovereign what is thepe of The Legendary Seller feature found in st4?
Could it be considered like a maintenance feature for the sales acumen developed in the first 3 stages of for people like myself who already have that solid sales foundation but still want a bit of scripting on mastering the basics?
@SaintSovereign what sub/modules do you recommend to run to really push the wealth manifestations to the max considering I’m already running Minds Eye, RICH, SB and EoG: True Sell ST1 (in two customs not each individually).
Things are moving but I want to manifest money as fast as possible and have it at its highest. Action is no issue as I do it every single day. I just want to maximize as much as possible the wealth manifestations piece of my stack. Thoughts?
@SaintSovereign QoS for EoG: True Sell ST1 + Sultan. Curious what results can someone expect in sales with those two considering True Sell has been updated
I don’t want to speak too soon but I think I found a breakthrough by using EoG: True Sell ST1 with EoG: ST 2 that could potentially increase my current income by a lot career wise and side gig income wise.
@SaintSovereign I will report you the results by Friday. I think you will love it.
Rotating out Reforged to do a cycle of EB, TS2, Rich. Have a good Stretch without any social events on the calendar- and want to maximize that time to focus on work and getting Capitol back up after Summer events put a dent in what I built.
First EB loop yesterday- seems to synergize well with the stack, enhancing the prospecting efforts and focus of TS2 upon initial impression- TS2 at least within a sales context seems to help and negate the anti-social aspects of EB and don’t notice any anti-social behavior with coworkers. Mainly running EB for the solitude/monk mode emphasis during this season to help curve me going out as frequently- as that’s the main leak in my finances.
EoG ST2 + Sultan ZPQ + EoG: True Sell ST1 QTKS stack. There’s a very specific reason why I bought the ZPQ custom and why I’m running it like this. I may even run this when A Stark Reality comes out but let’s see as EoG: ST2 has been amazing for career in the past and now but A Stark Reality will have a career component too so need to weight out the options when time comes. Sultan has been amazing at manifesting things so I want to put it to overdrive with ZPQ.
Have gotten really strong results with EOG 2 in the past as well in SaaS sales. Keep us posted on the results of the stack. Doing a cycle or two or two with Rich as I haven’t ran much yet- but may pivot back to that.
