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#980

Guys, I’m asking for help. I’m wondering how (and if) I should do DR while doing Emperor.

A truth is I found subliminals after making very little progress with counselors and therapists–I was too scared to be honest with myself, much less them.

And I’ve been with SC since 2018. I’ve done every healing sub. And just like with counselors, when it began hitting paydirt, I bailed. I’ve started DR 3 times. I don’t think I allowed it to touch my core. I’ve only gotten to St.2.

I’m doing both Emperor and a LB Sanguine custom presently. I started this cycle this week reducing Emperor to 3 minutes and my LB custom to 1 minute. This morning, I opened up in my thread, and the truths aren’t going away.

I share this since me pushing it away (blocking it out) has been a survival strategy I’ve been using since my childhood.

Umm. I’m going to share something personal. My biggest fear is feeling like a failure. I had a trauma with my mom in early childhood, and I thought it was my fault. I’ve been afraid of ever touching that wound…but LB and Emperor (NSE) are opening this up.

To summarize my struggle, this has been the thing I’ve avoided and purposely overlooked my entire life. Yet this wound is opening up.

I’m seeking help. Emperor mixes well with DR. But…now?

The biggest struggle currently is facing the fear.

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#981

Sounds to me like you’re focusing more on the subs themselves instead of actual goals.

Unless you have a solid reason to run Emperor with DR, as in the objectives will help move toward the concrete goals you have, I wouldn’t combine them.

Decide who you want to be in, say, 3 months’ time. Then pick the one or two titles that will move you toward that.

I’d stick to reading the objectives and skip the rest of the copy for this.

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#982

I can get stuck in “yesteryear’s” feelings and memories, and now that I think of it, I’ve often concluded “I need healing”. I’ve been stuck in some feelings today, so I’ve been using that same thinking.

I’ll write responses since I’ll see this now.

Reasons for running Emperor:
Wishing to believe I can succeed, to step beyond “giving up”
Wishing to feel good about myself
Wishing to grow up some. To not quit on life when it’s hard. It’s been my core reason honestly.
To believe “I can make it, in good times or bad”.
To go along with that, the resilience scripting–to not quit at every challenge.

Reasons for eyeing DR:
(Just gonna be honest)
I’ve wanted to tamp down this never-ending guilt I’ve carried. Childhood shit, but still running me.
I’ve wanted to feel worthy. Of love. Of having value. Of loving myself.
I’ve wanted to free myself from hiding out from my past. Even now, I do that (via constant blocking out stuff).
And more lately, I’ve been made aware how I’ve closed myself off from others (via LB). I did that myself. And I’d like to possibly open my heart once again to others who know me.
And to repeat that purposely: I’ve wanted to open my heart up once again. Life is small since I keep out nearly everyone.

I’ll go read over the objectives. Thanks for your response.

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#983

@subliminalguy Seems like you need subs to save you in some way, would I be correct or incorrect?

#984

@Trader, thank you for pointing to the objectives. I was shocked myself.

I’m much more drawn to DR’s objectives–since I’m seeking my own views and values, not others. I think, no, I know I originally sought out Emperor since an Emperor attracts attention and respect.

But I’ve not truly respected myself due to those lingering traumas. I’ve lived in guilt longer than I’m proud to admit.

I’ve wondered about this before, but avoided answering it: Am I using a sense of success to hide out from those festering emotional wounds?

Yes. I felt like I failed and could not alleviate or make peace with myself, so I’ve hidden and ignored it. And as long as I’ve done that, life has been …filled with “I hope noone ever finds out”. Which made me hide more.

I’m glad I reread the objectives. While reading them, I remembered less stress and less fear while on Stage 2 two years back. I was stronger, and interactions with others pointed this out to me.

Thank you. Your directions really helped.

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#985

That’s quite a jagged fault-finding question. Not worth my time.

#986

Those are all valid reasons for running DR. The thing about trauma is that at the time it was too painful to process so we stuffed it away. When it’s time to deal with it in the present it will hurt as it comes up.

I would approach DR with a warriors mindset. Yes this pain is going to hurt as it comes up but I refuse to be held back by it any longer. Even though the journey ahead is going to be tough in the end
I WILL PREVAIL!

I find a lot of my crap gets out by venting grief. I find a couple of sad songs/ movies and ugly cry that shit out.

Another powerful tool for letting stuff go that worked for me is breathwork. If you can find one that does group sessions even better as there’s just a lot of energy moving in the group sessions.

These 3 objectives jumped out at me just now.

It might be hard to picture now but keep your eyes on the prize, which is coming out the other side of this present difficulty.

You got this :facepunch:

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#987

I’ve had the very same experiences. I’ve started DR in the past and am instantly drawn to sad movies and songs. I’ve had one experience a couple of times.

My job has included me doing deliveries when a driver is out, and I was on St.1 listening to spiritual music. Tears started falling, and I immediately knew I had to pull over and let it out. It felt like a dam of resistance had fallen away. I cried heavily for a few minutes.

I’ve also had similar experiences at home. Certain songs have triggered me and I’ve wrote about them here. I still am drawn to sad movies occasionally.

Yeah, LB has been tearing down old walls recently, and I’ve noticed my draw to sad movies. I remembered Le Miserables and Phantom of the Opera last weekend, both of which are about loss.

I didn’t watch them, but I will soon, I’m sure. DR opens me up, allowing me to experience emotions and memories that I usually repress. Watching a sad movie is completely different when my inner resistance is disabled by DR. It’s a lot different.

I’m also wondering how NSE will enrich such experiences. I’ll bring this conversation over to the DR RED thread now since this is the Emperor thread.

Thank you for sharing your experiences and solutions @Serafim. I’m preparing my mind for this.

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#988

One point I want to bring up for emperor is, that it gave me the resilience and strength to tackle healing I shied away from in the past.
I listened to emperor for 4 months last year. And although I didn’t get the results I wanted, it prepared me for the healing this year. In the past I used to start a healing journey but once it got ugly and difficult, I said I’m not ready yet, I need more healing before I can start healing.
But with the preparation of Emperor, I stayed on path, it gave me the resilience and endurance to keep strong even when healing was painful.

Btw, I continued watching Your lie in April Yesterday. There was a flashback where the protagonist shouted at his mother “why don’t you just die, if I can’t do anything right for you?”.
And this scene haunted him for years after.
I was crying like mad this whole episode.

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#989

I think that’s where I get stuck. You have something come up and you’re feeling it almost like it just happened and my brain just freezes and says " OK what now? How do I process and let go of thus? "

#990

Letting stuff go is a matter of not resisting it. It’s simple yet difficult at first. Let’s take the example of stubbing your toe.

You stub your toe and immediately resist the pain. Out comes a series of F bombs while hopping on the other foot. If one has the awareness within seconds to simply relax into the pain, take deep breaths and almost breathe away the pain, the pain will soon dissipate.

That method is easier with acute physical pain than emotional pain. Emotional pain will have a localized bodily sensation, like anxiety and a tingling feeling in the stomach for instance. It is much more subtle and hard to tune into at first. I would suggest practicing the above technique with acute physical pain first just to get the sensation of pain leaving the physical body first.

One stuck emotion will produce thousands of corresponding thoughts and the problem can’t be solved with just thoughts alone. Picture a fire in the belly as the stuck emotional energy and the smoke rising up as the thoughts. The fire will not go out by venting the smoke. Only by disabling the fuel at the source if that makes sense.

A great book on this subject is Healing and Recovery by David R Hawkins, specifically the chapter on handling major crisis’s. He has a book called Letting Go that talks a lot of the benefits of letting go but not so much on the actual technique of letting go. Healing and Recovery dives deep into the actual techniques for letting go of our emotional baggage.

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#991

How has your guys’ results with women been? Any attraction or IOIs? How about communication wise with women?
I’m wondering if i stack Emperor and Primal Seduction together how it’s gonna go

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#992

Should be potent combo

#993

Once it got ugly and difficult…

I was challenged by someone to do CFW instead last night. And I’d just watched “The Work”, a real life documentary of maximum security inmates doing group therapy in Folsom Prison.

I was raw, connecting with a number of their stories. I replied nastily. I was an angry victim retaliating to bullies in my mind.

I sat with it an hour, letting the suggestion sink in. I knew he was right. My “right” was steeped in revenge, coming from my own victim thinking.

So I’m staying with Emperor, pairing it is with CFW. I did 30 seconds last night, and it relaxed me.

I was wrong @Invictus. I’m sorry.

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#994

@COWolfe

Did you run Dragon Reborn and Emperor for a year?

#995

Don’t take this the wrong way, but this stuck out to me. If DR has been this difficult to run in the past, it seems like you’d hit this wall again and frustrate yourself. What about running something easier?

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#996

Sure did. I got incredible results from that.

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#997

Did you run both or just one of them for a whole year?

#998

I combined them in a custom. I switched out the stage of DR every twelve weeks.

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#999

Emperor+ Love Bomb has a pretty interesting way of removing fears. I don’t even know if those fears are actually being removed or if I now feel like they’re none of my business anymore. I noticed that I’m not becoming fearless in the sense of becoming a dauntless daredevil. I’m actually becoming increasingly unbothered rather. There are some situations I still used to be reticent about, now the dominant mindset is “It’s really none of my business”. I’m not trying to remove fears, I just do not feel concerned by those fears anymore. I just do what I need to do and move on to the next thing, mostly unbothered, when in the past I would be apprehensive.

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