Does emperor have the entire script of limitless in it? I read somewhere that a previous version of emperor had the entire script of the older version of limitless
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Honestly, I’m waiting for Embedded title in ZPQ. It’s going nice to be back on EMP. It’s been a while since I’ve been on it.
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Emperor made me very serious. So much so that I couldn’t have fun on it, I’d always start thinking “damn, I could’ve been doing X and Y and Z for my goals and I’m just wasting my time having fun while I’m not rich yet…”
Which in turn made me less productive because I lost the motivation that was coming from having fun
Did you have any similar experiences? How did you solve it?
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I don’t think Emperor makes men more “serious”, I think it makes them more accountable as a man, and more aware of how much time they’re wasting in life on nonsensical garbage that doesn’t elevate them.
An Emperor isn’t an ultra-serious, joyless extremist, they’re just intentional with their energy and purposeful in their living. They understand that time and energy are valuable. Asking yourself “is this elevating me?”, and “is this a constructive use of my time?” are the types of thought processes that take place in the mind of a high value male. That doesn’t make one “serious”, it just means that they have clarity in life.
This:
is exactly the type of high value, high status mindset that propels someone into success. Most men’s idea of “fun” is just mindless escapism from life.
The purpose of that awareness isn’t to strip away enjoyment - it’s to eliminate low ROI, and refine how you use your time.
On Emperor, I wasn’t working my ass off 24/7 because that’s counterproductive and going to lead to burnout. I engaged in fun activities that recharged me, allowed me to process what I was learning, and actually increased my productivity at work. I still enjoyed entertainment, but it was much more refined and optimized.
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How have you found Emperor and Khan different when using?
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My last post for tonight. A realization of how Emperor’s made me grow.
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In every single way, lol.
Khan is a completely different animal - there’s no comparison. Just compare the product descriptions, and you’ll get a sense of the “flavor” for each one. Khan is a tiger, and Emperor is more like an eagle. The energy is entirely different.
Khan uses the man’s innate sexual energy to create and dominate every area of his life. The experience is significantly more raw, primal, and instinctive.
Emperor is great for entrepreneurship, general QoL improvement, and cultivating a high value, high status, winner’s mindset mamba mentality.
This is all my opinion based on my own personal experience.
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While this is what Emperor is supposed to do in theory, in my personal situation it didn’t work that way and I can’t pinpoint exactly why
That is true only if it cuts off escapism as you mentioned in the next sentence but for me it cut off even the fulfilling and recharging type of entertainment, such as socializing with like-minded people, building up my romantic relationships, doing fun competitions with friends, etc. If that’s not high ROI entertainment activities, please name examples of higher quality things, I’d love to learn about them
I’m currently running Stark Black and now I can enjoy reading fiction again, able to spend a full day with girlfriend without having my mind occupied with work, and do all the things I mentioned above, which in turn made me way more productive than on Emperor.
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Interesting ws looking for a comparison of stark black and emperor as well, did you try the new emperor?
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Yes, I’ve used it for a few cycles solo
You could read some of the results from Emperor here - Path of Supremacy - #48 by WorldOvertaker
and my SB journal here - Fate's Forge - 2025
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Everything you’re saying is confirming to me why Emperor is such an absolute monster, lol. I’m seeing pure evolution in the mindset, which is not only a testament to Emperor… but a testament to the fact that these subliminals actually work.
It didn’t cut off those things. Emperor spiked your mindset to such an ambitious and grand scale, that you began to see those things as counterproductive. The level of scale and ambition is personal and subjective, so it was merely manifesting on the level that you truly wanted deep down. Remember what Emperor does. It doesn’t just make you accountable, it also makes you see your limitless potential, and think on a massive scale to where you feel like success on that journey is inevitable. With that awareness, and the resilience to overcome everything in your way, with or without people by your side - what vision would you feast your eyes on? The subliminal activated that vision of potentiality, and your mindset calibrated towards that. Emperor is not for people who want mediocrity, that’s why if someone runs Emperor while at a mediocre job that reinforces mediocrity and lack of long-term potential… 9/10 times they’ll experience dissonance which people have already broken down. If the team has a terrible strategy, doesn’t strive to elevate, keeps benching Kobe, and doesn’t listen to him - then Kobe is going to find a new team.
ROI is relative and priority based. The activities you viewed as high ROI, started to become low ROI in comparison to the bigger things that you could be doing to get to where you wanted to be. They didn’t become useless, it’s just that your new and expanded perception made them feel insignificant in comparison. They no longer aligned with the sheer scale of what you were aiming for.
Emperor is for people who want to achieve and build on the highest level. It’s the mamba mentality.
Hence why I write things like this:
Emperor isn’t about “balance” in the way most people define it. It’s about greatness, and greatness demands a different level of thinking. You define what “greatness” is, and the subliminal is merely working with what you deep down feel like that is to you.
What were your specific goals on Emperor? If you set small and clear goals with the subliminal, then that would probably dial down the ROI.
This is all my opinion though. I think Emperor is a monster, lol.
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While I certainly did see those things as counterproductive in the moment, extensive testing showed that they actually make me more productive. What’s the point of having such a great and ambitious mindset if it makes you less happy and productive than you could’ve been?
I was never about balance, I just found myself to be much more productive when I had no guilt during entertainment which actually works as a positive reinforcement towards productivity - which is what happened with me on Stark Black. On Emperor, I’d be productive and then try to enjoy the results of my work only to find that I can’t get any fulfillment out of those anymore and that serves as a negative reinforcement for work (I work → I try to enjoy the results → I feel bad instead → Work starts to feel bad and not fulfilling). While tieing the results of my work with enjoyment from sex/status/resources might seem superficial, that’s the only working way that I’ve found as of today.
- Clear any distractions (youtube shorts, porn, etc) - achieved with Emperor
- Build a solid routine in which I crave and enjoy good habits - achieved only with Stark Black
- Build a profitable trading bot - didn’t achieve with Emperor or Stark Black yet
- Cultivate “alpha” qualities (mental strength, confidence, discipline, courage, ambitions, etc.) - Emperor set a fantastic foundation
- Clear my debts through work on any kind of business/investment - still in the process, didn’t really have much of a progress with Emperor
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Would be nice to see how how Hero compares to new Emperor
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Honestly, it sounds like you were transitioning through the mindset of Emperor and tapped out.
On Emperor, the process itself is the reward. Again, this is high-value mindset. The internal fire, the hunger, the satisfaction of pushing your limits, and watching yourself evolve in real-time. That’s where the productivity comes from. Ambition is pure dopamine itself. You’re looking to validate the work - Emperor wants you to get high off of your own discipline. That’s what makes you a monster. I would bet that Emperor was trying to elevate your motivational structure into something more self-sustaining. Again, Emperor is all about sovereignty and cultivating the strongest inner frame possible. That means not relying on outside forces, validation, or circumstances to dictate your success. It’s about building a mindset that allows for complete ownership of everything in your life, from your thoughts and emotions to your career, relationships, and long-term vision. That includes your fulfillment. Some people don’t need external rewards to stay motivated, they just stack wins for the thrill of it. The action itself is the positive reinforcement. There is incredible reward in building, learning, overcoming obstacles, and progressing towards goals… and Emperor kicks your enjoyment of that process into the highest gear imaginable because you understand that everything you’re doing is leading you to your highest potential. This means you’re always fulfilled in a self-sustaining feedback loop.
TLDR: I think Emperor was trying to shift your focus from external validation to internal fulfillment and self-sustaining motivation. You feeling less happy and productive was reconciliation meant to be worked through via introspection to evolve your mindset. This is all my opinion though. If Stark Black is your sweet spot, then I hope you enjoy your results with that, lol. Thanks for the discussion, cheers.
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That’s some food for thought, it’s quite possible that I’d have worked through it eventually had I continued to listen. Thank you for the discussion as well!
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Great, interesting reflections guys, 
I’m not you, but from my perspective and if I would imagine being in your shoes just for fun and be creative:
It’s recon.
It’s also an opportunity to reflect, were the activities really fun? Can work be fun or is it serious and boring? Am I truly relaxing and having fun or coping?
I personally went through and still going through the process of understanding and defining my relationship with gaming. It’s mostly coping. But I want to figure out if there was any pure joy too.
There’s two sides to each coin.
Hey, that sounds exactly like competitive Overwatch gaming I had with friends! 
The things you listed are not inherently good, inherently high ROI. They could be good, they could be bad. Best believe Emperor + ZP + subconscious don’t f around. Your bs will be revealed.
Anyway, personal development is personal. Recon is not easy. We all just do our best
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That’s the way of WB provided there are women looking for fun around.
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I wanted to share something.
It’s not only about adding more fuel to the fire within you, it’s also about removing the Co2.
I’ve run many different subs till now, and LD - Limit Destroyer just kept me going forward.
I feel in my case, it’s not the fuel, it’s the limits I create as a habit.
When those limits go away, everything just flows.
I’m writing this in the Emperor topic simply because LD helped me unleash the emperor in me.
It can help you too 
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Also, my advice after making 5 customs - stick to the major titles until you’re sure about customs.
For me, customs work well, recon is not an issue - but the fuel it gives is much to handle.
Running an Emperor custom, it’s great. I’ve stacked it with LD.
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You have a good point here
I’ve run LD with Limitless at some point and I felt it took away my limits in actually becoming smarter it was something hard to describe and it was a strong feeling.
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