Why do you say so?
1 Like
The first reason may actually be a misunderstanding on my part.
Iām running Dragon Reborn Gold and with that program, itās explicitly stated that there is no endpoint, and the 4 stages can be run cyclically again and again. This is different from Dragon Reborn Red.
There is a major difference between Dragon Reborn RED and the other multi-stage titles you may have used at Subliminal Club. Dragon Reborn Gold has no āmaintenanceā stage.
So, I may just be taking this logic from Dragon Reborn Gold and going too far in applying it to Dragon Reborn Red. The Dragon Reborn Red copy specifically says you can run stage 4 as a maintenance stage. So, that, as Ksub said, is literally the answer to your question.
But also, I spent the first few years of my Sub Club journey grinding through to āget to Stage 4ā with the multi-stagers that I loved. Ecstasy of Gold, The Alchemist, Quantum Limitless. My goal was to, without rushing, get to the point where I could create customs with Stage 4 of my desired programs. Iād typically spend 3 months per stage and then create a custom with Stage 4 and play it for a long time.
I still think that approach was great, and I got much benefit from it. But now Iām in a place where Iām really appreciating stages 1, 2, and 3. And although stage 4 ācontains the whole programā for the traditional, sequential multistagers, I still think that there may be some unique benefits associated with revisiting earlier stages. A BLT has lettuce in it. But itās not the same as eating a head of lettuce. haha.
These points that Iām making may be truer for the newer multi-stage programs. Dragon Reborn Red appears to follow the older way, with each stage building on the other, to some extent.
Iām also running The Ecstasy of Gold right now, and for that one, Iām not even thinking past Stage 1. But again, thatās one of the newer multi-stagers where sequential, cumulative progress is not necessarily the organizing principle.
3 Likes
Personally i dont feel any need to start again from beginning, rather get drr4 name embed
2 Likes
I agree, on this sub Iām more confident, assertive, authentic, social etc than when Iām on Khan.
On this sub I feel absolutely free.
2 Likes
this is the grand daddy sub of all ,
heck why do you think saint and fire have a dragon as there icon pic here.
2 Likes
Grand daddy sub term is catching on lol
1 Like
When i went for a walk through town today, felt so very free, confident, getting a feel good high from just being in social environment, it was very pleasant experience.
I move with much greater freedom and i feel it.
2 Likes
2 Likes
I feel like i hit a plateu with subs its still working but i cant heal the main issue thats been a problem for several years no matter what.
The chronic pain in my stomach that feels extremely chaotic anxious sort if pain that spreads throughout the body.
Making my hair thin faster than normal, sometimes red scaly spots on my face, like its eating my body from inside out.
I went to doctors before and they did nothing.
This area of pain feels all consuming black hole or quick sand that also drains my energy so i cant really shift into another gear on practical level in other areas in life because of it so its keeping me at very slow pace of moving forward.
2 Likes
Iām sure you have but just asking, have you been thoroughly medically tested for any possible natural causes or issues that might be contributing to this?
How about Paragon have you given that much of a run to see if that hits it?
1 Like
Iām curious how you feel now since it seems like a while since you have done DRR? What lasting positive impacts have stayed with you?
Last run I did of DR was the previous ZP version. I found myself quite anti-social for most of it, and easily triggered and reactive.
Is that generally what people are finding on DRR?
5 Likes
The first time I ran Dragon Reborn I had a kind of distant, somewhat dissociated feeling at times.
But it was not that the program made me that way. It was more that the program made me aware of a dissociatedness that had already been there.
3 Likes
My run of Dragon Reborn RED was okay. Some recon here and there in the form of a few bad dreams and difficulty falling asleep. Being triggered and reactive? Not really for me.
Ran all 4 stages for around 6 months (2 cycles per stage).
5 Likes
Theres a limit on quality of medical care where i live, i dont recall if i ran paragon before but i will give it a try.
Tho i think the underlying reasons behind this is much deeper possibily past life soul imprint trauma type of stuff
2 Likes
Tried today khan2 drr4 and added paragon, kind of passed out mid loop and played it 5min longer than planned.
1 Like
Good meditation today, just staying and feeling into the pain inside no attachment to healing.
I never liked breath meditation felt like a distraction, feeling without judgement whats inside is really all there is to it.
Before i was very keen on eastern philosophies but the whole idea and pursuit of transcendence of body seems like trying to bypass.
My biggest desire was for freedom so it was attractive to me.
But now i think we are meant to reach liberation/freedom while still in the body.
1 Like
You might want to look into a Chinese medicine center and consider adjusting your diet ā certain things could be affecting you without your awareness.
@SaintSovereign Would you say in theory DRR could help manifest a soulmate? In my experience healing and removing blockages process tends to manifest the more ideal circumstances for us.
I am running it with khan just wondering if i will require specifically heartsong at some point?
1 Like
Just wanted to share my experience so far with Dragon Reborn Stage 2 ā and hear if anyone else relates.
Compared to DRR1, which honestly felt like walking through hell, Stage 2 has been much easier for me to handle.
DRR1 was intense. I could feel the emotional upheaval, the heavy purging, the sadness, the rawness ā it was very āin your face.ā
But DRR2? Itāsā¦ quiet. Subtle. Almost peaceful.
In fact, Iām not feeling very much from it at all ā at least not in the dramatic way I did with Stage 1.
Is that normal?
That said, I am noticing some things:
Thereās a clear pattern of positive scenario manifestations ā nothing huge or life-altering yet, but small, meaningful events that seem to gently support the healing process.
Also, the muscle relaxation is very pronounced. I wake up feeling calm, physically at ease.
It almost feels like my nervous system is unwinding ā which is a beautiful contrast to the turbulence of DRR1.
But again ā emotionally, itās more like Iāve entered a space of detachment and neutrality, rather than deep processing or intense feelings.
No waves of sadness. No heavy shadows surfacing. Justā¦ a sense of not really caring maybe?
Has anyone else experienced DRR2 like this ā more gentle, more subtle??
Curious to hear your take guys
3 Likes