@SaintSovereign, more scripting to provide more comprehensive conscious awareness of recon reasons, sources, origins is very needed!
This will surely help to integrate script faster and make recon less harsh.
I already made use of it: I had recon, used my own techniques to find the source of recon and healed it in just a few minutes. Feeling very liberating.
If sub can help me understand the origin of recon faster that will be really a blessing and will accelerate personal growth.
These types of things are in the latest anti-recon scripting. It will definitely become the standard in future titles.
Personal Opinions, Not Representative of Subliminal Club
Certainly, I’m not of the opinion that recon (reconciliation) = growth. Nor am I of the opinion that more pain == more results.
What I’ve said, is that the recon process is similar to the cycle of breakdown and regrowth that happens with physical exercise. This is what I believe, it’s supported, but it’s just my opinion.
Just like with exercise, if you overtrain, your results actually will be WORSE. Because the body cannot repair the damage fast enough to actually grow muscle.
Just like with exercise, if you train too little then you won’t see meaningful results. Or your results will be so slow that you’ll lose motivation and give up.
Yes, I do believe that if you don’t listen to a title often enough, you won’t get meaningful results. It’s my opinion, it’s backed by my testing, but I don’t share it because it’s none of my business what people do.
The official stance of the company, my experience, and my observation of high achieving subliminal users (people here who consistently and regularly attain big success with a variety of titles over time) appears to support the idea that the subliminal growth and recon process is a mirror of the breakdown and regrowth cycle seen in exercise. But again, this is just my opinion.
The official stance of the company, my experience, and my observation of high achieving subliminal users also supports the idea that the people who get the best, most consistent, and most reliable results are the people who follow the official guidelines and listen for more than one cycle to a title.
More often than not, people who’ve seen the most profound transformations have listened to a single stack or title for longer than 3 months.
-The was true on Q, ZP1, ZP2, and now NSE ZP. Though the technology has sky rocketed between Q and current ZP, the old wisdom really does seem to hold for most users–follow directions, stay consistent, journal and take action.
But it’s just my opinion, and I never force it on anyone. I offer it occasionally to people who I believe actually want help and who might actually listen. Otherwise I keep my mouth shut.
I certainly don’t threaten people for disagreeing with me.
Under the reconciliation/recon = exercise metaphor (because it is a metaphor):
The anti-recon tech is like a new recovery methodology: Like a sauna, cold plunge, massage, cryo therapy, or red light therapy.
It acts as a supplemental therapy that helps lesson the negative symptoms of exercise, and enhance recovery.
Note, just like training, the body still must recover. The same process of breakdown and growth is STILL HAPPENING, the supplemental therapy has just lessoned the symptoms and sped up recovery so much that you don’t notice it as much.
This hypothesis APPEARS to be supported by accounts of people using the anti-recon tech.
That’s just a hypothesis, a metaphor to aid in understanding. It’s neither official, nor am I going to die on the hill of that metaphor.
It’s just a metaphor, and it’s my metaphor, not Subliminal Club’s.
My Real Opinion On Recon/Reconciliation
My real opinion on recon/reconciliation is that far too many people here are scared of reconciliation and appear to spend so much time and energy trying to outwit reconciliation, that they sabotage their own journey.
Given my belief that recon/reconciliation mirrors the breakdown and regrowth process seen in exercise, it’s like watching a bunch of people trying to gain muscle, but they refuse to train hard because they’re scared of getting sore.
But guess what?
Before this moment, I’ve never said that, because it’s none of my business. It’s really not. I think that most experiments and strategies are doomed to fail because they are actually covert recon/reconciliation symptoms.
But that’s none of my business.
Meanwhile Saint and Fire will continue working on anti-recon tech. From Q-Today they have already made enormous progress and they might succeed is eliminating the negative symptoms that come from recon.
No hard feelings toward anybody,
Have a nice day, and don’t fear the reconciliation.
You would be correct. It is an apt analogy, especially if one can grasp the nuances of considering reconciliation not as some kind of negative, unnecessary “side effect,” but rather the natural outflow of entering a refinement cycle toward their desired ideal.
You would be correct. The guidelines are not there just for safety. It is legitimately the best method we could develop at the time for improved results.
This is accurate. The 30-day guarantee was designed to allow you to decide if you wanted to invest in a particular product by analyzing your initial reactions and early results.
This is accurate to an extent. Within the boundaries of this “exercise” thought experiment, the anti-recon scripting would also help you identify which particular exercises are preventing you from reaching your health goals, how you can modify them based on your own experience and how you can improve recovery time. And it attempts to do so at a very fast pace.
I see how it aligns with what I’ve been experiencing more consciously lately—a clash between my default self-image (or pre-self-concept), which has been heavily conditioned by society, and my growing desire to express my authenticity. I think all of that is fostered by the recon scripting in AoW I’m running currently.
I’m beginning to see a connection between that clash and what we call “low-level recon,” as it clearly stems from the fear of transgressing my default self-image and expressing myself authentically.
I’m feeling a growing need to let myself go (clashing with the fear I mentioned), and I wonder how much the self-expression scripting from RM and Primal (or their equivalents) could support that process. There’s a powerful sense of rebellion at the core of that need.
It just clicked that the whole concept is actually quite ancient and was originally articulated by Plato.
People live in illusions shaped by external forces, mistaking them for truth. These illusions provide safety and stability but block authenticity and joy. Liberation requires painful awakening, and those who are trying to break free often face resistance.
The fear of leaving the cave.
Does a title with anti recon scripting help with recon from a title without it?
If i were to run my DRR4 name embed back to back with hero water stage(or maybe even earth stage not decided yet) , would the anti recon tech help with both?
Could you also elaborate a bit on synergy on using these two back to back together and how should i best utilise anti recon tech to resolve recon faster and get better results with this combination?
Enough with the fighting, everyone. A bunch of little fights have been breaking out in the forum. Let’s try to be cordial. No more passive aggressive comments, no more bickering.
You know, it’s funny. When I first started a few years ago, I started with a cycle of Emperor and Limit Destroyer.
My results exploded that first 6 months.
I made a bunch of anti-healing posts. I was very critical of the idea and concept of healing. Thought it was BS.
Took me almost a year to realize that my incredible progress was due DIRECTLY to Limit Destroyer–to healing.
Long story short, not only was I wrong, I was comically wrong.
I’m pro healing now and have been for the last couple years.
So, I guess the moral of the story is, sometimes we really think we know something, but our egos refuse to let us see the truth.
Looking forward to starting Dragon Reborn Red soon.
Am I gonna be the first test monkey to combine the new Hero(ST1) with DRR?
I’m running Red and about to start Earth.
Gonna copy paste into here my reply to another thread:
Just wanna add that I have read that some people run subs, feel like they’re not working, but then look back and realize how much change has been made, but all along the way it was very subtle.
I am on my 2nd cycle of DRR1. For the last 6 years I have been on Trazadone nightly for sleep and I have been dreading the day for when I was gonna have to eventually come off. For the record this sleep aid drug is meant to be temporary, I just stayed on indefinitely because I dreaded the trauma of insomnia, so I kept kicking the can down the road of “eventually I will make myself get off” and that went on from year 1 all the way to year 6.
IDK what it was, but during the washout of my first cycle of DRR1, something in me said FUCK IT and I decided to rip the bandaid off. No more kicking the can down the road to one day. I will get off NOW and fix my sleep(been trying every method to fix my sleep but none matter as long as I stay on trazadone).
So as I am typing this I have tapered down to 10mg per night from 150mg nightly. I plan on taking my very last dose in 2 weeks and kick this drug for good.
Now the point of me sharing this is, did DRR1 help me with this decision and take action to do so? IDK. Cannot say. Maybe I would of done it without DRR, but what I can say is, I was on DRR1 when I did make this choice and I’m still a bit shocked I did it and went thru with it, considering I been making excuses of getting to it one day and stretching that out for 6 freaking years.
BTW Trazadone withdrawls and DRR is very fun
Keep pushing through, Congratulations
@SaintSovereign any chance of DRR getting an anti recon update soon since its the biggest recon title of subclub?
Don’t be afraid of the Dragon. I feel my entire life being upgraded with this. Recon for me is minimal and so bearable that it doesn’t bug me. I’m very pleased with the results on microloops of 1 - 5 mins.
It must have broken a wealth ceiling off me because I’ve sky-rocketed to the top of company sales in our region after 1 cycle. This is a pleasant surprise that I was not expecting from this title.
My drive, enthusiasm, and motivation for improvement have all kicked into gear, and I’m noticing the positive changes.
Never would I have picked this as a wealth sub, but it just shows what removal of a blockage in other areas can achieve.
Fresh business ideas are coming to me in actionable steps, and the path is becoming clear and unfolding.
I’ve actually started to interact with subs more using conscious guidance, and it’s working beautifully. Never underestimate the power of this.
Cheers 
to everyone that made it 1 year from release of DRR, heres to another year.
This one i will just stay on DRR4 name embed.
Im going much deeper into self discovery, healing and mastery, step by step of course but im having access to incrediblely spiritually and internally developed people that will guide and facilitate me further.
Note to self not to play 15min loops still too intense and i basically dont sleep for an entire day after, damn this title would benefit so nicely from anti recon scripting.
@AnswerGroup in the bulletpoint section of the product description, two points are exactly something I’m looking for:
Develop your inner child from a kid to a mature, powerful adult
Eliminate and overcome all fears that prevent you from living an emotionally healthy life
My questions are:
I want to deal with these, but I think I’m not ready for DRR yet and wondered if there are any other titles or modules that contain scripting to achieve these two goals?
are these 2 goals contained within any specific stage(s) of DRR, for future reference?
Due to childhood (and adult) traumatic events, abuse, bullying etc, I find I have a lot of fearfulness and anxiety about safety and security especially, and am generally prone to fears (heights, insects, crime, cancer, etc).
I’d like to heal and overcome these things (same for the inner child, which I’m sure will have been affected by all these events).
Genesis and Ascension come to mind immediately.
Love Bomb and/or Love Bomb for Humanity would also be excellent titles for you.
Thank you for the reply!
I’m currently running a custom with Sanguine: The Elixir (and Paragon Sleep) and I’ve included:
Essence: The Experience of Joy & Happiness
Inner Voice
Divine Self Image
Synergy: Carpe Vitam
Synergy: Wonders of Life
Do you have any thoughts/advice about all of these, with regards to my original question? 
I’ve been running Paragon Sleep for at least 6 cycles and gotten benefits. So I’ve also been looking at switching it out for the new GLM, and modules such as Safety Net (which I’m quite confused about), Courage Reclaimed and Pride Unbroken.
Again, all thoughts/advice welcome
I vote for Genesis & Ascension too.
LBFH is a great choice, but it doesn’t really fill this point nearly as well as DRR from my experience:
Nevertheless, I’m glad I started with LBFH first before DRR.
When I run DRR, there are many cases where I thought, “I would have been struggling so much now if I didn’t run LBFH back then”. LBFH is a great foundation before starting DRR.
Though I suggest adding a sub that helps you with inner power too, like Ascension/Emperor. This was a hard one to reconcile in my DRR2 runs. It took me around 6 months total to reconcile with the sub enough to be able to run 15m comfortably.
Yes, each stage deals with them in different ways.
DRR will be amazing for you, especially DRR2.
DRR2 is the stage that screams “inner power” the loudest out of any subs I’ve ever used.
But in the meantime before you start DRR, LBFH should be able to deal with these, though in its own unique (yet powerful) ways.
I find DRR3 to be the best at dealing with these.
But you do need the foundation that DRR1 & DRR2 provide first.
I’m sure your fears will lessen in intensity even before you reach DRR3, but DRR3 just puts the final nail in the coffin.
Goodluck.
