@emperor_obewan Can you think scientifically and be spiritual?
Gotta get out of the head and allow…
Depends what you mean by that. I don’t perceive that thinking or science is a hindrance. The problem I’ve encountered and that I think some others have encountered is that the mode of activity within the brain that occurs when you’re deep in analytical thought is very different to the type of activity that goes on when you’re working with energy or perceiving non physical things. Even before subs I’ve observed that they are two completely different sets of pathways (in terms of brain/nervous system/body interaction). So its difficult, although not impossible, to engage both at the same time.
What I call “spiritual” has a big energetic component to it, even in the way consciousness interacts with the world. Circulation of energy through and beyond the body plays a big role in being able to communicate with non human consciousness for example. Abstract thinking can easily trap the energy in the head. I’ve been able to switch to one or the other consciously, but most of the time they’re different “thinking hats”, and one is closer to a “feeling hat”, or a “willing hat”. In my experience people can spend a lifetime trying to align those different modes of being.
Can you think “scientifically” all the time and be spiritual? Probably not. Even just to study alchemy or certain spiritual subjects I choose to put on a completely different world view and try to bring as few modern assumptions to the table as possible. Energywork often involves the astral body and is very much about lived experience more than it is about the abstract. You integrate the spiritual stuff after the fact, it’s often a completely different realm to that of code, math and language.
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As a matter of fact now that I think about it there’s a great example of this from last night I ran into. I ran across one of the old Monroe hemi-sync tapes on my feed and decided to put that on in preference to my typical pure binaural.
The introduction to the tape explains about their approach and although I’d run those tapes before maybe because of the mind-body state I was in I missed what it was they were trying to do. In order to do “astral projection” first you need to have a means of transferring your awareness into that body of energy. So they tell you it’s about learning to use waves of your body’s own natural energy, which is why they start with the sound of ocean surf (“the sound of natural energy… present where the ocean meets the shore”).
I’ve only ever gotten out of my body and remembered it once, and that was a fluke. Being able to move in the astral means being able to master your own natural internal energy enough to be able to use it almost as a second body, and distinguish awareness of that energy from body-awareness itself.
I didn’t finish the tape last night because I didn’t feel ready to go all the way with it. I’ll take it up again soon once I’ve worked with Alchemist a bit more. I’m looking forward to whatever the next update will be to APX.
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Likewise, the AP is a goal.
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Beautiful comment…i resonate a lotnwoth what you say…the solar plexus chakra is also a big blockages for…this rigid way of thinking how I am 
Also beautiful to hear that mudras etc. Come automatic for you.
Do you do any somatic practice to fround nore in your body? For me this is so important…to get into my body and get out of my head…
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I had to look up that term. I suppose there are a few that I do automatically at times, but I could do a lot more consciously.
For me the “getting out of my head” often occurs at the end of the day or late at night with what I call my sabbaticals. This involves going for a short walk in close by nature to connect with it, connect the sensation of the air around me and the space within me with the intelligent and conscious deity, and speaking or communing with it. Sometimes I’ll do the same thing with trips to the shops. At night, this also has the advantage that I have to stay fully engaged with my surroundings in case I run across any “company”. There is something else that I do at the same time to ensure that I’m in a somatically connected state before I run my night-time stack. I do that something else because after an entire day of studying or reading and dealing directly with life stuff, getting into that fluidic state is very difficult. Walking or exercises get me so far, but then there is still often frozen energy which would otherwise interfere with my practice.
Thanks for the confirm on the solar plexus - I can see the pattern in others around me but its always good to know I’m not over-generalizing.
Agreed, after a full day of work and dealing with the world, it can be pretty hard to let it all go and get into that state of connectedness.
Would you mind sharing what you do? I’m always looking to learn new tools for this journey.
Same struggle over here brother /:
My vision for Alchemist program is to be fully in control of my life energies, my mind, my emotions, and the internal processes of the body, to become a true embodiment of alchemy in every aspect of my life, to become someone who is just transformative by his very nature and mere beingness.
I want to become a walking temple and have a positive and transformative influence on everyone who comes in contact with me.
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Hope I’m not jinxing it but I think I’m experiencing some emotional transmutation from Stage 2. After almost two weeks in, my general mood has been more positive (well less negative) the past few days compared to quite a while. Not that I’ve stopped feeling negative emotions or being irked by others, but I’m dwelling less on them, and other small good things happened for me to dwell on. I’m on Emperor too which I think helps, but it doesn’t feel like my previous time on Emperor.
During DRR 1-2 and LB things were hard for me, laughter-of-thirsting-gods style, so I initially didn’t expect this part of Alchemist to go well, but so far so good. Again hope I’m not jinxing it.
Also since starting Alchemist I haven’t had bad dreams.
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There’s no jinxing, set your heart at ease. That’s what I have experienced in this cycle, especially in those states of anger, or worse in those subtle moments of rage. Thankfully, Stage 4 contains all the stages within it, so the fruits of the earlier stages of growth are consistently watered.
That is fine. We’re still humans, remember that even at the darkest of nights, the sun is still shining somewhere and the rays are still falling; it never end.
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Started with St.3 today…it indeed calls in the energy…felt a fire in my belly…havent experienced that before in that intensity.
The teacher manifestation happened to during st. 2 washout allready…found someone who does ayahuasca ceremonies all around the world and will teach me the basics of shamanism 
Also a question: i am only running microloops…15-30 seconds and i still have amazing results…i cant really increase expose over a cycle without getting more serious reccon…Would it be better to run alchemist from the beginning again, or creating a custom with St.4? Would like to create a custom with alchemist, st4 Khan black st 4. and some energy stuff.
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Began St3 today as well, congratulations on your find, I’m building a custom with Alchemist as well, please share the modules you recommend!
This is my draft…its still to much…its a matter of putting modules away
Spiritual/Energy Custom
Alchemist St4
Khan Black 4
MDFY: Freedom
Destiny Directive
Elemental Opus
Faith Unyielding
Inner Gasoline
Metamorphosis
Inner Blaze
Mystic Osmosis
Psyche Restoration
Sands of Time
Subconcious Flow
Synergy: 42
Synergy: Energetic Transcendence
Synergy: Iron Law
Synergy: Venus Unveiled
The Flow
Synergy: wisdom of the ages
Growth Through Pain
Synergy: Semper Praesens
Synergy: Harmonic Conflux
Synergy: Wonders of Life
Synergy: Divine Dominion
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I’ve had some Alchemist hits in the past week:
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Checked a tab I had open from 6 weeks ago- Book on Shamanism that looks real informative was waiting there for me!
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Had an article regarding a theory of mine (only ever shared with my wife) pop up and be right on the money, IMO.
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Had clarification pop up about some past experiences with Hemi-sync that I now know fall squarely into Shamanism.
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Gaining further clarity into my life and wife through new understanding of Human Design
Great stuff!
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So I arrived at Stage 3…Listened to a 3m loop 5 Days ago…and the Manifestations I am getting are amazing. I am getting more and more sensitive to energy. Both inside my systems and outside. I am having spiritual experiences with the intensity of having ingested a psychedelic…sober… The level of energy control I have on energys withhin my system is rapidly increasing. I guess the plateau breaking scripting is manifesting.
Amazing sub and deeply resonating with me.
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I will update on that although I stopped alchemist , but that refined intuition gets terrifying by the day .
4 to 6 days ago a song for mothers comes to my mind then I played it . First I thought it’s related to memories I have with my ex fiance . Because first time I listened to it was with her . Today when I get home me and my brother noticed that our mother is not attentive . And because she have a little history with brain clots . Then we take her to the hospital directly . And doctors told us that there was brain clot that were starting to develop and thankfully we catch it early . 
I don’t know what is the end to that intuition . I know that my spiritual practices are consistent and huge like every situation have it’s own practice and every sub I use makes me care about my spiritual side even HOM the sub I use it nowadays with love bomb . What I want to say by that is that my mind mostly clear all day that’s what makes intuition getting clearer by day …
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Alch ST2 update:
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Wondering how would this stack with Emperor Will to Power
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